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Name: Wall Streeter
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Message: David,
You still around I had two questions for you. 1) Have you ever been a wash room attendent? 2) Is your last name Dinkins?
Name: Sandy
email: teddybear38_98@yahoo.com
Message: HILLARY..... STAY OUT OF NEW YORK.... WE DO NOT WANT YOU HERE..... AND WHO IS PAYING FOR ALL OF THIS ...... I GUESS US THE POOR TAX PAYERS.... HOW DARE YOU... YOU AND BILL GO BACK TO ARKANASAS..... WITH YOUR CUBS HAT..... MAY WE NEVER HEAR ABOUT EITHER ONE OF YOU AFTER THE ELECTION IN 2000..... AND PLEASE TAKE THAT LOSER GORE WITH YOU..... AND FOR JUST FYI I AM REGISTERD AS AN INDEPENDENT .......
Name: Carol
email: murroxii@att.net
Message: The "good old boys club" is running scared, bullying is their order of the day. Thanks for offering the option of intelligence and execution of meaningful programs. We've all been "abused voters too long".
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Source: Radio Reports
Another example that Hillary has no business representing New York is her complete lack of knowledge of the state. News reports, which will be posted once in print, make mention of this latest gaffe. Gloversville is an upstate town once known for manufacturing 99% of the gloves in the country. Refering to it as "Glovetown" is like referring to Hot Springs as as whoresville. She is making more gaffes than even algor the ozone hole. I'll bet she know where to shop in NYC for "large lady" clothes big enough to cover her tree trunk calfs.
Name: South African Broadcasting Corporation
email: mustar@mweb.co.za
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Hi,
Just wanted to congratulate a fellow South African on your amazing achievement.
We saw an extensive report on the 8 PM news bulletin about your website.
Also best wishes to Hillary for her forthcoming campaign. I think she'll do
a good job.
best regards
Anthony Krijger
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Source: The New York Post
Sleaze follows the Clintons as surely as summer follows spring, and the first real indication of its presence in the nascent Hillary Clinton campaign has surfaced in the improper conduct of White House Communications Director Ann Lewis.
Lewis will be writing a "substantial amount" of Hillary Clinton's campaign Web site - even as she continues to be paid as an employee of the federal government.
The dual role Lewis apparently intends to play as both West Wing staffer and Hillary campaign worker raises important legal questions about the use of the White House as a campaign base for the First Lady Candidate.
Campaign spokesman Howard Wolfson says Lewis has been working on the Web site "on her own time, using her own resources. No taxpayer equipment was used. No taxpayer funds were spent. It's totally appropriate."
Jim Kennedy of the White House Counsel's Office said Lewis' work is "perfectly lawful." Of course, this is a Clinton White House lawyer we're talking about here; when he says something perfectly lawful is going on, you can almost be sure the opposite is true.
The crux of the matter is whether Lewis is using the facilities of the White House in any way to further Mrs. Clinton's campaign goals. Lewis' free time is her own, but she cannot do the work in any publicly owned space or on any publicly owned equipment.
According to the 1978 Ethics in Govern-ment Act, "an employee has a duty to protect and conserve government property and shall not use such property, or allow its use, for other than authorized purposes."
The law says that "government property" includes "any form of real or personal property in which the government has an ownership, leasehold or other property interest as well as any right or other intangible interest that is purchased with government funds, including the services of contractor personnel. The term includes office supplies, telephone and other telecommunications equipment and services, the government mails, automated data-processing capabilities, printing and reproduction facilities ..."
Kennedy, the White House lawyer, has already given the game away by saying that "if there are any long-distance calls, [Lewis] can use a credit card." No, she can't, not out of her White House office. Kennedy appears to have confirmed, by this quote, that Lewis has already done so.
This is a significant issue, one that implicates Mrs. Clinton in the fast-and-loose way the Clinton White House plays with the law. The First Lady is on the verge of attempting an unprecedented run for office. She has every right to do so. But it is, and will be, illegal for Hillary Clinton to use either the personnel or the facilities of the White House in her quest for office.
The journalists in New York state should be aggressive in monitoring Hillary's campaign to ensure that Clinton sleaze does not permeate the upcoming U.S. Senate contest.
Name: S. Francis
email: Jesusluv9@aol.com
Message: Run Hillary Run. I think you would do wonderful as a U.S. Senator. If they don't want you in New York come down to Louisiana and be our Senator.
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The "good old boys club" is running scared
Meaning the Democrat Party
Name: Eugene Her
email: eugenekher@hotmail.com
Message: Hi First Lady, I have been following the news whether you will run for US Senate in New York. I wish I live in New York to support your campaign. However, I wish you the best of luck. Keep up with the great work and forget about all the negative e-mail messages. Eugene
Name: Wall Streeter
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Message: Did anyone see Pat Moynihan with Hillary? I was wondering if he could stay sober for a whole day.
Name: Jon Tampico
email: GO Girl!
Message: Hillary is not a crook, and neither is O.J. Jerry Fallwell is a PIG! I just had to say that!
Name: JCWolk
email: JCWolk@aol.com
Message: Go for it, Hilary! You have the gifts needed to put some of our voices in the Senate chambers! Glad to see you take on New York. Maybe now a Senator from that state will know that the Huson River does not border the state of California. Yes, there is a Midwest!
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email: koochel@midusa.net
Message: Hillary, Please go home and leave the country alone. You need not waste your time with this new venture on the taxpayer's expense account. New York, many have faith in your wise choices; do not choose Hillary. Please! She's a drain on our morals.
Name: a nony mouse
email: to Dawn the devout Hillary cultist
Message: If you're vote is based on emotion, stay home on election day, because you won't be doing what's best for your state.
Take your own advise, your support of Hillary is OBVIOUSLY emotion based. You have been made the fool by the Clinton's "victimhood" campaign. You whine about how poor little Hillary is being picked on for her record of land, cattle, travel office, billing records, etc. FRAUD. Gee, if she had any ACCOMPLISHMENTS in life she could easily deflect criticism by listing her accomplishments, but she doesn't have any to list. Therefore, support for Hillary is not based on any real world accomplishments, but merely her abortion stance and playing the martyr/victim.
Name: WALTER E. POWELL JR
email: k.r.powell@worldnet.att.net
Message: GO FOR IT HILLARY!!!!! YOU WILL DO A GREAT JOB NO MATTER WHAT ANY ONE THINKS.YOU CANT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR OTHERS SHORT COMINGS,, Don't let people get you down with their cruel jokes. Remember no one is perfect ,they all have faults,they are just not lucky enough to be from Arkansas.(hehe)Also remember they are only jealous. I hope you make it! I do have one question though. Why did'nt you run in Arkansas? God know's we need help!LOL Please respond to my question. Good Luck,Senator:Hillary Clinton
Name: Wall Streeter
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Message: Walter,
Jeepers, but Hillary's a crook. In ninteen years on Wall Street I've never seen anyone legally open a commodities trading account with only one thousand dollars. You can't!
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email: Finally! I made it to the 95 Forum!
Message: ARGH!!! Thanks WALL. I didn't know what the deal was with my posts! To continue on the issue of Monica and skeletons and the question: It doesn't matter if it wasn't you (but your SPOUSE) that made the mistake, it doesn't matter if you were totally innocent, it doesn't matter if you've even taken steps and measures and rectified your past, there are those people out there who dislike you with such a vengeance, they want you to remember! No matter how irrelevant remembering and rehashing the past may be, they like to constantly pour salt on the wounds. Hillary's enemies have hidden agendas, like keeping old scandals alive, and I believe "innocent" questions like the one today prove my point. To finish my 1st post - Like I said, if NY isn't careful, all roads on Hillary's cam
Name: Kathleen L Bisig
email: kabobkabob@worldnet.att.net
Message: Dear First Lady, I have high hopes for you in the world of Politics. I wish you the very best in your future race, I only wish you were here in Michigan. You would have my vote. Sincerely Kathleen Bisig
Name: a nony mouse
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Message: The Emperor Has No Clothes ... and neither does Hillary
Name: a nony mouse
email: to Dawn Langley
Message: You're obviously another victim of the "ast right wing conspiracy."
Name: ken
email: kjd85@hotmail.com
Message: Hillary as a senator eh?? Yes, get away from "faithful bill" but running for office I can't see helping your career. You are a humanitarian and that is your calling. Go with it. Have a good life but don't waste it on politics. kjd
Name: Dennis Galt
email: vw1galt@aol.com
Message: First lady Hillary, go up there and kick them Republicans real hard and win that seat. Good luck.......
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Message: Hillary should run because she is smarter than her husband and will do a great job for our children!
Name: Dan Uno
email: danuno@ix.netcom.com
Message: A simple question: WHY is it even LEGAL for Hillary to run for senate in a state where she has never lived? I thought the idea was to have 2 NY STATE RESIDENTS represent NY STATE in the senate. Otherwise, what's the point of having 2 per state in the first place - hell, we may as well have 100 of Arkansas's finest run for all the senate seats. TO HILLARY: you of course are welcome to take up residence anywhere you want, but PLEASE DON'T RUN FOR SENATE IN NY!!!!
Name: a nony mouse
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Message: Hillary should run because she ... will do a great job for our children!
Please give an example to support this statement. How will Hillary do a great job for our children? More govt. programs? Raise taxes? More money for failed govt. schools? Please try to be specific.
Name: New Yawker
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Message: HELL NO HILLARY IN NEW YORK JUST WONT GO!
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email: Aagen1@webtv.net
Message: Congratulations, Hillary. I hope it works out for you. You are one tough cookie, but even the bravest can hurt. You have endured an amazing experience in your private, and professional life. I hope it will work out for you. I admire you for I am a sort of a 'Hillary girl.' Candid, independent, sharp and sure to draw the fire of jealousy of women and the suspicion of men. But you go girl! The Stepford wives ofcourse hate you. As does many other dodos. And those masochistic Republican women....?
Name: Don Zoeminika
email: bill@whitehouse.gov
Message: Please dont send me any email, and Don't let Hillary know that I posted to this site. I don't think she has a chance in a hand basket of winning in NY, but it makes her feel good. And for all you hot babes just call me Don Z Anyone want a date? I have two for one coupons at Burger King...
Name: Charles Masciola
email: masciola@dmcom.net
Message: I am a lifelong New Yorker and have no problem with Hilary Clinton running for and winning a senate seat from New York. From all I've seen she'll do a better job representing out state, and national interest, than any other candidates. Good luck, Hilary. It was nice to see you in Oneonta on July 7th.
Name: Lee Green
email: leegreen@lycosmail.com
Message: Congratulations First Lady. I hope soon to be able to call you Senator Hillary Clinton. A continuation of the policies we have seen for the past 8 years can only be good for this country. And please. Maybe as a Senator you can do something about healthcare. Who can afford $4000 a year premiums? Go To It Mrs. Clinton. I will be volunteering to help your campaign. Best Wishes Lee Green
Name: paul obrien
email: beezee7335@aol.com
Message: good luck i know you will do well if i can contrbuite money please e mail and i will take it from there again good luck paul obrien
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Name: Stefan S
email: Stef10019@aol.com
Message: Where can I volunteer for Hillary Clinton's Senate campaign?
Name: Curious Staff
email: staff@hillary.org
Message: We welcome all the newcomers to this most famous of all political forums on the Internet. We are curious as to how you found out about this site. Please let us know. Send us an email at staff@hillary.org, of just post a message on the forum, but please tell us how you found out about this site. Thanks.
Name: Patrick OBrien
email: pgobrien@ix.netcom.com
Message: Hillary: You can run for Senate in NY...if only, because the standards for the Senate seat have been lowered by the presence of Mr. Schumer. Please keep your flawed politics, husband and policies out of the Peoples Republic of New York. Perhaps your efforts might be better spent re-engineering China, N Korea or one of the other "Workers Paradise" countries. Get an honest job, try making some of your own money... before you spend any of mine. Dump the loser (he must make you SOOO proud!) Sincrely, Pat O'Brien
Name: roger in Ulsan, South Korea
email: hansfordmacgruder@yahoo.com
Message: go Hillary, all the way to the white house!
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Message: I have a simple question for Hillary, and NO, I am not a PIG, but am old fashioned in some respects. I would like to know why before Bill became President she was content with using his last name only. Ever since he got into the White House she has demanded to be called Hillary Rodham Clinton, WHY, is she to good to be content with Mrs. Hillary Clinton or Mrs. Bill Clinton. Yes I know she is a libber, but still if she truly wants to win more of the male speices she needs to cut out that demand to use RODHAM, it has been a sore spot with me from day one. Not to say she does want to do away with a few things I am for, but I will never vote for anyone that DEMANDS things as she does. You know that story that she is the "REAL" President but Bill wears the pants! Please tell her that she can do better if she dropped her unmarried name and does what most females do, use her hubbies last name only. Care to have her personally answer this or is it going to be one of the peons she hires to do it for her? Mr. Fleischer
Name: wanting to be fair,
email: Park Ridge, IL
Message: I can imagine it is hard to know what to do at this point in your life. You seem to work hard, be tough enough to play in the big leagues, and have enough patience and dignity to handle even the Bill Clinton. But please, don't you think the country and it's people have had enough of you and your husband. (Even if there is a good bit of ignorant folks that don't understand the extent of the damage caused by this president and his affiliates.) The daily dose of filth from OUR white house HAS HURT. There is just not enough time for me to expand, but, Ms. Hillary, have you considered what will happen if there is perpetuation of the Clinton name in the news. Continued flashbacks of dishonesty, perversion (for crying out loud - Under the desk in OUR oval office while on the phone with the nations elected officials), direct lies to the faces of the WE THE PEOPLE, game playing, word trickery, using scapegoats, on and on and on and on. PLEASE LEAVE THE NATION ALONE. MAYBE IT CAN HEAL WITHOUT THE CONSTANT IN YOU FACE POLITICING OF A DISGRACED FAMILY. ADMIT THE HARDEST THING OF ALL: PERHAPS THE HIGH SCHOOL SHOOTINGS, AND THE RECENT HATE CRIME DRIVE-BYS AND OTHER MORAL DECAY RELATED CRIMES,HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE NATION SUCCUMBING TO MORAL DECAY.(redundent I know, but I don't want you to miss the connection.) WHAT IS THAT PHRASE? PEOPLE LEARN BY EXAMPLE. DEPLETION OF CHARACTER, AND UNDISCIPLINED BEHAVIOR OF THE LEADER OF THE "TRIBE" OR "VILLAGE" JUST MAYBE HAS HAD AN EFFECT. DON'T YOU THINK. PLEASE, ENOUGH ALREADY!
Name: don
email: dfrchief@aol.com
Message: hillary, firstlady, i hope your campaign is a success. i have not forgotten about damato and his press for campaign contributions investigations and pressure until the investigations started to involve other republican candidates. then a screeching hault came about. ronald reagan and the iran contra affair, george bush son and the savings and loan bankruptcies. these type of things hurt this country as a whole. also when reagan took away our interest rates on our loans etc. that hurt the middleman. the fireing of all the traffic controllers, started the demise of the union as a help to the labor force. what you and your spouse have been thru is unreal. i guess this country has no forgiveness. to bad. i hate to see our country slide by not supporting the candidates. good luck in your endeavors, please dont forget the working middle class. we are what makes the country prosper......
Name: TSimone
email: tonysimone@hotmail,com
Message: To one of the most intelligent, classy and warm first ladies our nation has ever had, Dear Mrs. Clinton, I wish you all the luck in the world. I hope to help you in any fashion possible. Let's send Rudy into retirement permanently. It's about time that New York sent a woman to the U.S. Senate. To all the right-wing nuts, you should not be intimadated by a smart, articulate, savy, agressive woman. Best Wishes, T.S.
Name: don
email: dfrchief@aol.com
Message: FIRST LADY, I have acouple requests to ask of you if your elected to the senate,. WHY must we pay such high charges on anything to do with banks? the charges that they have must have been passed when damato was the ranking committee member when this was passed. also the surcharges that the insurance companies have make it very difficult to pay bills in excess of what your ins. pays. our auto ins. in this state is also an outrage. these are issues that i think should be addressed. good luck, we definately need someone to help the working individuals of this state and country. these are issues that have an affect on all of us. thanks, don upstate ny.
Name: David Moore
email: DMoore62@AOL.com
Message: Dear Ms. Rodham-Clinton, I am distraut that another Clinton has entered the political arena. What in the hell can you do for New York? Nothing. But, you can give yourself the ideal political mileage. This is especially remarkable following your blithering husband's sexploits and the advertising that came in the foot steps. The Monica scandle was an incredible opportunity for you since the beginning of the health care program that you failed to sell to the folks in our country. We didn't want another huge Govt monster to feed. I think that you would serve our country better if you became a Girl or Boy Scout Leader. You have the knack with people one-on-one. But not with our nation. Your good intentions are better used in a personal level not a political level. Ms. Rodham-Clinton, if you wish to respond to my suggestions about being a Scout Leader, I will give you all of the help that you need to make it happen. I will arrange for the youth protection and leadership training that you will need. I feel that you would be a valuable assett to any youth organization not a political one. We go where we can do best. Sincerely, David Moore
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Message: Hillary I think you are great. i don't think there was any other choice for you but to stand by your husband in his hard times. While i don't think that this is somthing to be practiced by women of the country i thinnk you did the best with what you can. I think you will be a great senator. you are a strong roll model for women. You speak you mind. Its is too bad that you maried a man who turned out not to be who you thought he was. I don't juge you on your husband. Best of Luck.
Name: Steve Austin Tompkins
email: Sombat1@Hotmail.com
Message: To Hillary Clinton, I'm a 39 yr old register voter. I would like to say that I feel you Should Skip the Senate, and go right to the White House. I have been a register voter since I was 18 yrs of age. Born in 1960, I have not yet seen a president canidate that I would vote for. I did vote for your husband although in my a opoinion. I think he has done this country good. One of the first in my life time. I am truely sorry for the way the press and the people have treat the clintons in their family matters. This shoud've been kept in the family. Well back to what i wish to say. I feel strongly that its time for a woman to lead our country. You are the one that should be our next President. I feel you have been through rough times with our states as well with your husband. This gives a person strength. I will be most happy to vote for you as our next president of the United States. This would be the second time in my life that I will vote. I feel that it would be well worth it. I don't need to know the issue. I know that you will do the best for this country. There is one issue i would like to bring up. I had open heart surgery. This has been hard for me. The first thing is I am unable to work a forty hr week with the skills I know. I'm presently working towards becoming a MCSE. This will give me the skills to get a good job. My problem is that I am upset due to the fact that drug addiction and alcoholism rates more on social secruitys then someone who has a medical problem. Now I will succeed in what I am doing for getting a skill job, and get off welfare. All I get from welfare is food stamps. Soon I will be off this. I just need the help of one more yr of my social securitys To make this work faster, but then I look to how there are so many people in our states that go hungry. Well i would like to see the ssi become more for the people that need it. I for now will make it without this although it would help me much. I am a poor man at the moment, but i will make it. This is one issue I would like to see you work on. When you become the president of the United States. I know you will. Take Care Of Us The People Austin Thanks You
Name: Lea Lewis
email: wisciii@aol.com
Message: Hillary - You are an intelligent, well educated leader. Please run for president. I have not voted in any elections because I have always found the candidates as the lesser of two evils. However if you run, I would actively campaign. I admire your courage and the issues that you have addressed. The country would be in good hands if you were president.
Name: Sic Semper Tyrannus
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Message: Hillary,Both you and you husband have and continue to difor a life in politics is POWER and Wealth to fuel your egomania.
Name: M. C. Fernandez
email: elidan915@aol.com
Message: I wish you were running in Florida so I could be a part of your campaign. I admire your courage. Please don't stop until you reach the White House. Run Hillary, Run. As a 37 year old mom, wife, and professional with a strong desire to serve as a public official I hope to learn from your experience and follow your example in my community. Your stregnth throughout the years as First Lady are admireable and the causes you have pursued have been great. I will never forget your quote in Vogue last Christmas that it is better to live for a cause than just because. Good Luck Hillary!!
Name: Manhattan teenager
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Message: I watch TV. I see Hillary Clinton on TV. I see her hugging Kosovar refugees, I see her wearing a Yankees baseball hat. That is what she wants us to see. It's too bad that so many of us will be tricked by these images. Mrs. Green, who lives down the block would probably vote for her. Since when was Hillary a Yankees fan? I bet she can't tell Jeter and Knoblauch apart. (Sigh), but that's how it works. I mean, haven't you EVER stuffed your bra to give boys false impressions? My brother is a law student at (he'd rather I not say). He tells me that anyone who has studied the Whitewater Case knows that (I'd rather not say again). Can someone tell me the real reason why Hillary Clinton is running for the Senate?
Name: diane
email: finhum@dmcom.net
Message: I would like to know if there is going to be a campaign office within the Oneonta area??????
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email: avidnut@aol.com
Message: LET HER RUN! RUDY WILL WIN IN A LANDSLIDE. GORE WILL LOSE LIKE MONDALE AND ONCE AND FOR ALL WE WILL BE RID OF THE CLINTON CHINESE REGIME. OH AND BY THE WAY I DONT THINK SHE IS RUNNING I THINK SHE IS JUST DIVERTING THE FACT THAT HER SLEAZEBAG HUSBAND SOLD THE USA OUT TO THE CHINESE.. HILLARY I HAVE RECENTLY LOST MY JOB IN A DOWNSIZING EFFORT AND HAVE A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS TO INVEST. TELL ME HOW YOU TURNED 1 GRAND INTO 100K? PLEASE HELP MY VILLAGE MAY BE STARVING SOON... JUST SEEING THE CLINTONS ON TV MAKES ME FEEL I LIKE I NEED A SHOWER.. OUR NEIGHBORS OVERSEAS LOOK AT AMERICA THE WAY AMERICANS LOOK AT ARKANSAS AND WHY? THE CLINTONS.... JUST FADE AWAY BOTH OF YOU AND TAKE MONICA-STARR-AND THE REST OF THE MOST CORRUPTED OFFICIALS I HAVE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE AND START YOUR OWN VILLAGE IN CHINA WHERE U ARE AMONG FRIENDS......
Name: Kay
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Message: Go Hillary. You can win!
Name: NOSTRADAMAS
email: PREDICTION
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HILLARY & GEORGE W.
Nostradamas is never wrong. (except one time)
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Name: Zippy the Wonder Slug
email: I couldn't have said it better myself...
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From the Nealz Nuze page of
Talk Radio Star Neal Boortz's Web Site.
THE DECLINE AND FALL OF THE WHAT REPUBLIC?
It seems that someone wrote a book about the rise and fall of a republic. That book contained one of my all-time favorite quotes. Here tis:
"A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves
money from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits from the
public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policies, always followed by a dictatorship.
"The average age of the worlds greatest civilizations has been 200 years. These nations have progressed through the following sequence:
From bondage to spiritual faith, from spiritual faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to
selfishness, from selfishness to complacency, from complacency to apathy, from apathy to dependency, and from dependency back into
bondage."
The quote is from historian Alexander Frazier Tyler. He died in 1813, so he could hardly have been writing about the Republic of the United
States. Actually, he was writing about Athenian Republic.
Is there one person reading his words who does not see a direct parallel to the United States at the end of the 20th Century? Do we have voters
who have discovered that they can use their vote to plunder the pockets of others? You bet you sweet butkus we do. And do we have politicians
who know just how to go out there and get those votes? Not only yes, but HELL yes. And whats that about loose fiscal policies? Why, our
national debt is increasing by $250 million each and every day, yet our politicians feed us the lie of a balanced budget and even a surplus!
The only debatable issue in Tylers statement is just what stage we have reached. I think were in the complacency/apathy stage myself.
I really dont see any turning back.
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Message: I can't define the feelings that I have concerning the Clintons. They are like a black hole that leaves you feeling empty and abused. They have no shame. They use the resources of the American people to better themselves without a blink. They took over 1,200 people with them on their two-week trip to China!! They look for people who are of the same vile nature to be faithful to them. How can the people of New York do anything but vomit when this woman comes in to their state?? They should be so repulsed as to deny her plane access to their airports. Hillary, you and your husband are demons. I do hope and pray that you aren't the "Beast" spoken about in Revelation. God save America.
Name: Jane Q. Public
email: everywhere@USA.org
Message: As a movement us feminists have sold our soul to your falandering husband for the sake of his stance on abortion. We worked ourselves ragged getting him elected only to find that he meant none of what he said and is the worst kind of male. You were suposed to be a role model for us all and you have proven to be nothing more than a climber and hanger-on who obviously is smart enough to know your husbands actions but LIE and say you never knew. How in gods name do you think we can follow you now??? You are a liar, cheater, and thief. You truly think you are above the law and we are subjugated to it. We have been double crossed by the both of you! All true Americans should hold you in contempt and you both should be tried for treason not elected to any office.
Name: Pat
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Message: Hillary, please go home! America is just plain tired of the scandal that has come into the white house along with your other baggage. There has been so much dirt that revolves around the current occupants of the white house that we need a breather and that can only happen if you and your husband fade when he leaves office. No matter where you go there is going to be a trail of scandal sheets a mile long and it is time that we had some refreshing faces to try to erase the reputation that this administration has wrought. We need respect brought back into this country and this cannot happen as long as the Clintons are there constantly chipping away with a daily dose of scandulous behavior. Give us a break and give us a rest. New York is not the only State that is going to suffer from you, we all will, so please, just go away. This should prove that there is no "Right Wing Conspiracy" because if there were you would definitely not be in NY.
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Name: gladys wennberg
email: glawenn@hotmail.com
Message: I am very proud t
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Name: gladys wennberg
email: glawenn@hotmail.com
Message: I am very proud that you have decided to run for Senate. We women especially in Nigeria are very proud of you and hoping you make it. Keep up the good work. You are not only a brave woman but a loving wife and mother. You are a role model of this millinuim. All the best.
Name: Frances Santana
email: all2pretty@aol.com
Message: Hillary, I have just a few important words to say to you! MAY GOD BLESS YOU! GO FOR IT AND WIN! Best Wishes, Fran
Name: Edward J. Macaluso
email: emacaluso@email.palmbeach.k12.fl.us
Message: Dear Miss Clinton, I would be very proud to have one or more of your buttons of you running for New York Senator, I'll pass them among my family and friends to where. Thank You, Edward J. Macaluso 7921 Mansfield Hollow Rd. Delray Beach,Florida. 33446
Name: marcia
email: nevada
Message: I don't understand the need of some people to express such hateful, hurtful messages and why the repressed "right" is so afraid of you. You've been an inspiration to me as I struggle to do the best I can in my place. Don't let the hatemongers stop you. We need good women like you.
Name: Cory Hine
email: coryhine@netscape.net
Message: Looks like you didn't do so well upstate. Again I ask what your accomplishments are, besides marrying Bill..... Where is your record?? Why won't you directly answer the questions. Tell us your socialist agenda.
Name: cory hine
email: coryhine@netscape.net
Message: Hillary: Please do move to NYC. It is a sewer. I know because I was born there. While you are there, you need to take a ride on the subway, prefferably on the hottest day there. Thank God you're not coming to Texas. You and Schumer should make a good Socialist couple....... Or better yet; I see they like you in South Africa. I think you would be perfect down there....
Name: L. W. Luckenbill
email: Disciples@aol.com
Message: The Clinton's belong in adjoining cells in Levinworth. They are sociopaths. That is why she's running for office. The mere fact that she would consider it is indicative of the degenerate condition our country finds itself in after decades of socialism.
Name: Betty M. Rafter
email: prafter@aol.com
Message: The news reports may call N.Yorkers "tough", but don't underestimate their intelligence!! Most of them know they're very fortunate to have such a well informed canidate who is determined to make a world that works for EVERYONE running in their state. They understand that there's a difference in being mayor of NYC and being their representative in the US Senate. They understand Mrs. Clinton's determination for improving our children's education, our healthcare system and the living conditions for everyone is essential to NY, our country, and to our strength in the global picture. Though NY is thought to be cynical by many, even they see the damage our self-righteous, hypocritical elected officials of my party have inflicted on our country. They know, as most Americans do, that we do not need any more cynical, name-calling Senators, but someone who can stay the course for the good of all Americans. Though I'm a Republican, I could only wish we were so lucky to have Hillary R. Clinton running in Florida. I'd dance with glee all the way to the polls (& urge all I those I know & love) to vote for someone who really cares about the future of our children and elderly, and not just for their own selfish interests. GOOD LUCK HILLARY...AND GOOD LUCK NEW YORK!!!!!!! sign me......Envious in Florida Betty Rafter
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Name: Barb Trebilcock
email: bbtreb@excelonline.com
Message: Hillary: As a woman owner of Custom Advertising Products, I would welcome the opportunity to provide advertising items for your campaign as Senator. I can provide a competitive quote on any campaign buttons, banners, fans, pens, hats or anything you would like to use. We specialize in Made in America products and are located in Western New York State. Best of luck with your successful campaign, Barb Trebilcock
Name: dawn langley
email: et tu, divorce
Message: I'm concerned with all those who say they will refrain from casting a vote for Hill because she "stood by her man." With over 50% of all marriages ending in divorce, what kind of message are we sending to the children, not to mention wives, husbands, and the next generation, when we VILIFY Hillary for not divorcing Bill?? Hey, get with the program..it's the nineties...divorce is "in"....are these the messages? Are we PRO-DIVORCE or what?? Do we blood thirst after divorce in this country SO MUCH that we cant respect it when a husband and wife team stay together and work it out?? Who cares if you THINK you know the reason why or not. Granted, I don't know why she stayed with him, and I don't think she should or that he deserves her, but since when should a politician have to choose between divorcing her husband or divorcing her country?? You people sound like Hillary's a wishbone with Bill hanging on for dear life on one side and her constituents ahold of the other...QUICK EVERYONE! MAKE A WISH! And for all those well-wishers who offer sympathy for Chelsea, why don't you tell her face to face YOU wish HER parents would get a divorce?? Tell her it's the difference between a vote for her mother and a vote for the other candidate.
Name: John E. Darney
email: jedarney@frontiernet.net
Message: Hillary, Do us a favor, GO HOME! We don't need or want EITHER Clinton in our State. You can't even manage your own husband. Why would you think you could manage anything else? Have a nice day......in Arkansas.
Name: Mr. Bill Da Cat
email: bill@whitehouse.gov
Message: GO HILLARY! GO FAR, FAR AWAY! I really don't understand what is wrong with all you mental midgets out here. This woman is responsible for the White water Scandle!!! She has ripped off millions of Dollars. She has not renewed her Bar license. Gee could it be to prevent her from having to face being Dis-Barred? Her husband has been cheating on her for 20years. He has little kids running around and he take no responsiblity for them. Are you people freakin blind. He is just a big pile of bile, and his wife looks like an adult cabbage patch doll. This is one of the most dysfunctional families in America. Do you all really believe that crap it takes a Nation? Hey Bill is out there taken your daughters! What has Hillary done for Health Care? Gotten her self some publicity? Knock Knock is anyone home? This woman is no saint! and is probably happy that the big wind bag is out getting it someplace else. While he is dunking his dinky she is out ripping of money. If she wasnt the first lady (so called) she would have a poster at the post office. "Wanted one Cabbage Patch looking Woman, With Dumb smile on face" Beware her hands are in your pockets. How does this Bozo babe think she can survive in New York?
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email: Bill@whitehouse.gov
Message: Question of the day-- Where is Hillary getting the money to buy the Mansion in New York? Answer! Our Tax Dollars!
Name: Phony
email: p.h.o.n.y@usa.net
Message: Hillary, listen to this: "Go Away!" Visit http://homepages.msn.com/CapitolDr/iamphony/ today!
Name: Mary Lou Welz
email: stillmoon@yahoo.com
Message: YEH!!!! Hillary Rodham Clinton the next senator from New York. The concept leaves me breathless! Send Hillary campaign funds to win in our state and then she will be free to help other campaigns raise funds!!!!
Name: dawn langley
email: all of my posts??
Message: I was trying to remember what I said and so I researched the archive forum from yesterday. Of all my posts, one was left. I want to know WHO deleted my posts & WHY they were deleted...... Should I just post under another name to ensure that my posts can't be discriminately deleted??
Name: RHINO
email: RDA801@AOL.COM
Message: HILLARY WHO? IS IT RODHAM OR CLINTON? WATCH CLOSE SHE CHANGES NAMES AND RHETORIC FAST.
Name: angry white male
email:
Message: Hillary, Please send me a RUN HILLARY RUN bumper sticker. I want to put it on the front bumper. I have another Clinton sticker on the back bumper: FIRST HILLARY, THEN JENNIFER, THEN US. I guess we'll need to replace that one with a longer one. It might go clear around the car for Pete's sake!
Name: dawn langley
email: bob....
Message: it isn't nice to call someone names. Now if I give you back your ball, will you promise to take it back to your sandbox and leave us alone?
Name: Paula
email: plucas@netsync.net
Message: Hillary, You go girl! New Yorkers who have lived here and plan to stay even through retirement, need some one with youthful ideas to support and vote for us. Too long have good 'ole boys been running us (this state) into oblivion and taxing us to death with no concern for the future of our economy and our children and grandchildrens ability to survive and stay in this grand state. Come to Chautauqua County and talk to our steelworkers and underemployed people. We need new life blood and is New York any different than any other state, we need a strong minded individual, who will vote for the best interest of everyone in the state, not just the city of New York. Come on in and join us Hillary!!
Name: Les Olson
email: lolson@med.miami.edu
Message: Please Ms. Clinton don't enter the Congress. Do you want to do to this country what you've done to Medical Practise.
Name: Editors to Dawn Langley
email:
Message: We are thrilled to have you on this forum. Compliments on your "et tu divorce" response which is excellent. Keep up the good work.
Your statements regarding your missing messages are puzzling? To our knowledge the only messages we deleted belonging to you were duplicates. If we deleted anything else it was a mistake. Please repost.
Name: aestephen
email: aestephen@aol.com
Message: I am 100% in support of you and sadly disappointed that I"m not able to vote for you..Please do all your many many supporters a huge favor and run for President next. The people that love you far outnumber the few hateful souls that are so jealous of your brilliance.
Name: Wall Streeter
email:
Message: Dawn,
You have been visited by the Editor. But you had posted the same note a gazillion times she was just trying to tidy up. Remember Hillary is a computer illiterate this is someone's private forum. Have a nice day.
Name: David
email: David@ext.net
Message: OK!!!! a Hillary person is here ready to cleans this site of all right wingers. Hey! right wingers it is rude to come to pro Hillary site, and bad mouth her. Why don't you go to Lucianne (tape your friend) Goldbergs chat!!!!
email: David@ext.net
Message: OF COURSE GEORGE BUSH SR. NEVER USED TAX MONEY WHEN HE STARTED CAMPAIGNING IN 1987!!! LOL
> Name: Wall Streeter
email:
Message: David Dinkins,
Given your experience as a washroom attendent the clean up job may be right up your alley! This is not a pro-Hillary site it's an open forum but then you were never quick on the up take. Have a nice day.
Name: Last Visible Dog to Betty M. Rafter
email:
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They understand Mrs. Clinton's determination for improving our children's education,
Democrat ignorance of our system of government is amazing. If Hillary wants to help children's education in New York, she should run for school board or state legislature - Education is a STATE issue not a federal government issue! I challenge all Democrat celebrity worshippers to read the 10th Amendment to the constitution. Better yet - read this:
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people. <./big>
The Constitution never mentions education nor does it give power over it to the Federal Government - THEREFORE, the Senate has no power over Education and if they try it is bloody UNCONSTITUTIONAL! Therefore - Hillary CAN NOT improve the children of New York's education if she runs for Senate - you have been duped
PONDEROUS!
They understand Mrs. Clinton's determination for improving our children's education, our healthcare system and the living conditions for everyone is essential to NY, our country, and to our strength in the global picture.
My Democrat friend - I think you have NO IDEA what a Senator does - the job you are describing sounds like philosopher-king/dictator. If she is elected she will be a junior Senator from New York (sorta), ONE vote in ONE HUNDRED (she will be 1/100 of the voice of the Senate) - she will be a small junior voice in the minority party.
-LVD
Name: Last Visible Dog to Betty M. Rafter
email:
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They understand Mrs. Clinton's determination for improving our children's education,
Democrat ignorance of our system of government is amazing. If Hillary wants to help children's education in New York, she should run for school board or state legislature - Education is a STATE issue not a federal government issue! I challenge all Democrat celebrity worshippers to read the 10th Amendment to the constitution. Better yet - read this:
Amendment X
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people. <./big>
The Constitution never mentions education nor does it give power over it to the Federal Government - THEREFORE, the Senate has no power over Education and if they try it is bloody UNCONSTITUTIONAL! Therefore - Hillary CAN NOT improve the children of New York's education if she runs for Senate - you have been duped
PONDEROUS!
They understand Mrs. Clinton's determination for improving our children's education, our healthcare system and the living conditions for everyone is essential to NY, our country, and to our strength in the global picture.
My Democrat friend - I think you have NO IDEA what a Senator does - the job you are describing sounds like philosopher-king/dictator. If she is elected she will be a junior Senator from New York (sorta), ONE vote in ONE HUNDRED (she will be 1/100 of the voice of the Senate) - she will be a small junior voice in the minority party.
-LVD
Name: Susan
email: Millent@buffnet.net
Message: If you want to win the election here you would be better of not having a universal healthe care plan. Anything the Government runs cost 3 times as much as it should. The last hting New York needs is someone who spends more money. That's all we have now and everybody is leaving. As far as your education ideas, isn't Arkansas #50 out 50 in education that you ran down their?
Name: HARVEY DOHN
email: HDOHN@POTEN.COM
Message: AS A BLEEDING HEART LIBERAL I CAN HONESTLY SAY HOW PROUD I AM TO HAVE SUCH A TREMENDOUS ROLE MODEL FOR ALL AMERICANS AS MY NEXT SENATOR. GOD BLESS YOU, AND THANK YOU. P.S I AM 57 YEARS OLD, PORTLY SHORT AND MARRIED (BUT THAT DIDNT STOP YOUR HUSBAND) SO KEEP IN TOUCH.
Name: GOOMBAH
email:
Message: HELL NO WE WON'T VOTE
Name: David
email: David@ext.net
Message: LVD, After years of wanting to dismantle the Public School System have you noticed how many Republicans are talking about rebuilding the schools? What up? LOL By the way, that Really Old Stale Federalists arguement (power to the states) was started so slave states (like Bob Barr's Georgia, and Trent Lott's, Mississippi) could keep slavery legal in their states. Thank god for the Federal Government!!!
Name: Julie Grimme
email: jgrimme1@aol.com
Message: Run Hilary Run
Name: savvy lady
email:
Message: Do you know what the communists call people who are gullible, easily fooled and just plain stupid?The term is "useful idiots". There are so many of you out there, it's scary! The German people elected a man that told them what they wanted to hear, until he got the power, they didn't take the time to really find out what kind of man they were voting for, because he promised them so many wonderful things!They adored him! But guess what, he was not an honest man. He had lied to them, he had deceived them, some were shocked, some turned away from him and tried to get rid of him, but it was too late, the power he haehad aquired made it impossible to strip him of the office. The german people will always have to live with what happened next. They were blinded by a very clever man, who knew how to fool the gullible, useful, sometimes well-meaning people of germany. Sound familiar? THINK ABOUT IT!!! PLEASE, before it's too late.
Name: David
email: David@ext.net
Message: You're right. I don't trust Guliani or Dubya either!!!!!!!!!!
Name: David
email: David@ext.net
Message: Long live Hillary Clinton!!! James Carville is great!!!!
Name: Shawn Abele
email:
Message: I did NOT leave the previous message bearing my name. Some mental midget with too much time on his hands is playing a sick little game. Time to stop now and take your meds, okay?
Name: Wall Streeter
email:
Message: Davey Dinkins.,
I can understand your animus towards Giuliani. It must be a lot harder getting decent tickets to the U.S. Open. His reducing the murder rate from 2,000 a year, while you were Mayor, down to 700 or so kind of proved something about your concern for your constituents. Oh well, have a nice day.
Name: David
email: David@ext.net
Message: Wally...Wally...Streeter, Common!!!! Better economy! The aggressive drug Crack being replaced by the lethargic heroin! These are a few reasons why...not because of Rudman Guliani. Crime is dropping in Oakland too. Must be because of a Liberal like Mayor Brown. Guliani is nothing but a mean guy, and his popularity is fading with every cop beating!! Have a great day!!!
Name: freedom fighter
email:
Message: Let's see, Hillary, your resume says here that you once worked for the Rose law firm. Yes, your very close friend Vince Foster was very instrumental in talking his law partners into hiring you, even though, after interviewing you, they did not want to hire you. Whats this? You subsiquently were guilty of some illigal transactions there, oh very illigal dishonest deals. Oh now poor Vince is dead. What an interesting career you've had, how in the world did you take $1,000 and turn it into, oh my gosh, THAT MUCH MONEY? OVERNIGHT? Oh, that was very illigal too. Some of your friends went to jail for this stuff, so sad, but not you, oh thats right, your husband was govenor at the time, it always helps to have power at a time like that doesn't it.Lots more of this kind of stuff here in your resume,mmmmm my goodness, you'll made it all the way to the Whitehouse!Isn't that amazing! Your friends will stand behind you and your husband no matter what, isn't that nice, guess thats what friends are for,they will go to bat for you no matter what you do, and your'e so lucky so many of them have those really good newspaper and t.v. jobs too. That just helps so much doesn't it cause most people just really believe what they hear on a.b.c.,n.b.c.,c.b.s, and especially c.n.n!You have made so many friends who have so much power, it's no telling how far you and your husband can go,and what's so wonderful about it is that nobody(at least your good friends) really want to hear about all that awful stuff anyway,because you and your husband have really learned how to be really charming, and how to tell the people all the things they have been wanting to hear all along. I guess we wont be able to hire you Hillary, but We know there will be someone out there who won't care that you are a liar and a thief and quite a few other things a lady doesn't mention.But good
Name: David
email: David@ext.net
Message: Ronald Reagan was a terrible father!
Name: David
email: David@ext.net
Message: Todays Quiz for right wingers! Which of the following people are not divorced? 50 Bonus points for any listed below who claims to be a family values person, and has been divorced more than once (hint:initials are BB) !! 1)Bob Barr 2)Newt 3)Trent Lott 4)Hillary Clinton 5)Ronald Reagan 6)Tom Delay 7)Dick Armey 8)All of the above
Name: David
email: David@ext.net
Message: Freedom fighter? LOL--- I bet the only thing you've fought is putting your Chamis on over your big militia beer belly!
Name: Editor
email: editor@hillary.org
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Name: Witch Hazel
email: To Beth--THANKS! Worth repeating
Message: Name: beth
email: urbanink@yahoo.com
Message: Anyone who thinks that birthplace is the key ingredient to being a successful and impassioned leader in today's United States Senate has very little real knowledge about the workings of government. When was the last time a U.S. president was from Washington D.C.?
People everywhere want the same things fundamentally: They want to be able to support themselves and their families with plenty of choices and opportunities to work, they want to see their investments and efforts grow and multiply, they want to provide a good education for themselves and their children, they want clean and safe streets, they want to believe that they've put their trust in the right people, they want to be free to exercise their opinions, they want to know they have a greater chance of being helped and not harmed if they need emergency medical attention, they want to be able to look around and see that their environment hasn't been raped by developers, they want to know that if their life's work involves helping society, that society will return the favor when necessary.
Tell me what state does not want these things? Tell me in what ways Hillary Clinton has not had exposure to these needs and the complexities that are involved in working through the specific issues related to them? Before those of us who have been raised or live in New York decide out-of-hand that Hillary is unfit to hold a Senate seat, simply because she is not a "native", we should first be willing to at least consider what she does have to offer and decide if it is enough.
Thank you for this message Beth. Keep up the good work. I would like to add that Hillary is also concerned with children without families, single mothers, those without health insurance, the disabled and others who need help in life.
I also think Hillary would make a good Senator precisely BECAUSE she has been in Washington for 7+ years and knows how the Federal Govt. and the political system works. She can be more effective than local politicians because she is savvy, will not have unrealistic expectations of what can be accomplished (especially if there is a Republican majority again, Goddess forbid), and knows the art of compromise to achieve her goals for the state. I think New York is lucky to have her.
And her overseas contacts will come in handy when foreigners are looking to invest in the US, build factories here, open sales and marketing offices, invest in real estate, etc.
VOTE INTELLIGENTLY, VOTE HILLARY
Name: Dawn Langley
email:
Message: We'll be here 'cause WE LOVE YOU HILLARY!!
Name: Dawn Langley
email:
Message: We'll be here 'cause WE LOVE YOU HILLARY!!
Name: Wall Streeter
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NEW YORK POST: July 8, 1999
FILEGATE: BACK FROM THE DEAD--WITH NEW WOES FOR HILLARY
A filing petition to a federal judge last week raised the possibility that the FBI files case, one of the capital's great all-time mysteries, might yet be broken open--with political implications for Hillary Rodham Clinton. It requests the deposition of a former Clinton White House aide's ex-wife, who claims she observed her husband transfering FBI files into his laptop computer.
By Robert D. Novak
This witness is Leslie Gail Kennedy, who married until late 1994 to then White House Associate Counsel William H. Kennedy. Seems the First Lady may finally tell what she knows about her erstwhille law partner and what he was doing with those FBI files. She sure does have some interesting partners!
Name: Last Visible Dog to David the Forum Dweeb (DTFD)
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LVD, After years of wanting to dismantle the Public School System have you noticed how many Republicans are talking about rebuilding the schools?
David - we would not call you the forum dweeb if you did not make silly statements like this - could you present any supporting evidence for your claim that the Republicans want to "dismantle" the public schools - didn't think so. The Republicans want to FIX the public schools - not just throw money at a something that has been proven to not work (the current Democrat stance). The liberal teachers unions have all but destroyed the public schools (the unions and the Democrats are more concerned with campaign donations and big salaries for bureaucrats then for the education of children). The Republican want to bring the power of the free market into our schools system - you think Democrats would wise up, they champion our free market economy and love the free market Wall Street but they want to force our school systems to live under Stalinist Socialism - GO FIGURE!
that Really Old Stale Federalists arguement (power to the states)
I guess you consider the Constitution - old and stale. Your true to your liberal stripe - you want to change everything. Well, right now it is NOT the "really old stale federalists argument" - it is the bloody constitution. Until you liberal socialists find a way to overthrow our government or grossly amend our constitution, it is the law of the land. Dat's Da Facts, JACK!
that Really Old Stale Federalists arguement (power to the states) was started so slave states (like Bob Barr's Georgia, and Trent Lott's, Mississippi) could keep slavery legal in their states. Thank god for the Federal Government!!!
David - you are not a student of history are you? You may want to look up the term Federalist. The Federalists refers to advocates for the ratification of the United States Constitution (circa 1787). The Federalist advocated a STRONG central activist federal government - so your use of the term "Federalist" is factual incorrect (like most of your messages) and Federalist actually mean the exact opposite of what you claimed it means. Not to mention - the Federalist didn't need to use the 10th Amendment so slave states could keep slavery legal because prior to 1865 slavery was constitutional (dweeb) - check out Article 5 Section 2 of the US Constitution (I have the feeling you have never read the constitution). Your bastardization of history is unconscionable for someone that is bragging they are going to "kick right wing butt". BTW - Bob Barr's Georgia and Trent Lott's Mississippi ARE NOT SLAVE STATES (MORON). Slavery was abolished a generation before they were even born - not to mention it was you beloved Democrat party that was the party of slavery - the Democrats sent many a proud southerner to death in an attempt to keep slavery legal for all the rich southern Democrats.
A little advice David - if you don't know want you are talking about, shut up and hit the books. If you choose to post message that flaunt your ignorance (like the one I am responding to) - you just look like the forum dweeb
-LVD
Name: doctom
email:
Message: May the Chicago Cubs NEVER invite their "loyal" fan MS Hillary to throw out the first ball again!!!!!!!! She should be called "out" before she gets to first base! Of course she and her husband don't really understand what playing by the rules is all about, so she would certainly argue that she couldn't really be out . . . As the song says so well, "It's up to you New York, New York" PLEASE DO US ALL A FAVOR!
Name: Charles F. Fromme, Jr.
email: cxfqb@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Message: Mrs. Clinton, although you have entered the race for United States Senator from New York, I still have a few questions. First, I do not know if you have ever visited Long Island (part of New York State) or spent any real time here, but it is becoming quite crowded. Long Island consists of four counties (Brooklyn and Queens in New York City and Nassau and Suffolk outside of the city). If you judge the overcrowding of these four counties by the traffic on the Long Island Expressway, the Northern State Parkway, the Southern State Parkway, you will see that these counties have reached absolute saturation in their populations. These major thorofares and all the others are crowded 24 hours a day-seven days a week. If Long Island is to remain liveable, there will have to be some "limits" placed on the populations of these counties. Do you have any plans for limiting the overcrowding of Long Island while you are in the Senate. We need help. Long Island cannot absorb the current rate of imigration -- all of which seems to wind up on Long Island. While New York City has a transit system -- I suggest you ride it as much as possible during the election campaign -- it ends in Jamaica. From there, it is only buses on the overcrowded and potholed roads. The Long Island Railroad was put together in the late 1800's. It was never designed for the 20th century, much less the 21st century. It just does not provide any of the services that could keep cars off the road. As a Senator, do you plan to provide for MAJOR improvements in the inferstructure of the Long Island Railroad? People just jump in their cars for travel -- the Long Island Railroad just not go from here to there. I hope you have been able to keep up with the problems at the City University of New York. Both the state and city governments have cut funds to the City University of New York and then blamed the university for the failures due to the cuts in funds. What will you be doing for the City University of New York. By the way, the massive imigration to the New York City-Long Island area has placed enormous pressure on the City University of New York for remedial courses. Could the Federal government provide the funds needed by the imigration workload on the City University of New York.
Name: David
email: David@ext.net
Message: LVD, Hey Mr. insulting machine. You're back from the dead!!! I guess it takes a long time to look up all those words!! LOL If you call me Dweeb that's great!! It just means you know less than a dweeb. YOU WILL BE KNOWN AS SUB-DWEEB!!!!! Hey Sub-Dweeb.....why don't you go hang out with you fellow species in Lucianne (tape your friend) Goldbergs chat? :) So Mr. Sub-Dweeb...you are saying that no Republicans were in favor of dismantling public Education? Do you really mean this? I guess the Republicans always wanted Social Security too? LOL Get real man!!!!
Name: David
email: Wally Streeter
Message: Hey!!! You been reading The Sludge report too often. Hey did you hear that Bill Clinton has a love child? LOL He's a great source for conspiracy!!
Name: Last Visible Dog to Savvy Lady
email:
Message:
The German people elected a man that told them what they wanted to hear
Savvy lady, I completely agree with the spirit of you message but I don't want to be called one-side in my application of my History Sword of Damocles. I believe you are speaking of Hitler (am I a history whiz on what) - anyway, to be factually correct Hitler himself was never elected to office (he lost his bid for the presidency - he lost to Hindenburg, this was prior to him exploding into flames in New Jersey - NO WAIT, that was the zeppelin had the same name). Any way, when the Nazis achieved power in Germany they appointed Hitler, he was not elected by the people. Nevertheless, I agree with the crux of your message.
Name: M. Hoffner
email: mhoffner.ptd.net
Message: Congratulations, Mrs. Clinton, on your decision to run for the U.S. Senate. My only complaint is that you are not running in Pennsylvania against Rick Santorum.Who can we find to run against him
Name: David
email: Hey Sub-Dweeb LVD
Message: Still looking up those big words? LOL You're in Democrat territory little man!!!
Name: mary anne hedges
email: mary_anne_hedges53@yahoo.com
Message: Hi. I read that your reform of the health care industry is not effective, but I'm not convinced of that. The health care plan thru Public Health sounds comprehensive and affordable. I may have more info on that soon from personal experience of my own and people I know. New York, an initial melting pot origin, rejecting someone not long enough a resident is not logical. Sounds like a statement based in fear to me. They are fortunate you choose them to represent. Of course, it's obvious you will represent the diversity our population consists of. You appear to have a handle on that being a huge strength of the United States. Thank you for not dropping out of public service. Of course you can do anything you want to do, so thank you of thinking of others' needs. Cool, no doubt. mary
Name: Wall Streeter
email:
Message: David Dinkins,
Well the sisters say it's his. But we wouldn't want William the Innocent to own up, would we? I guess a paternity test would solve the issue one way or the other. I mean, it's for the children and thier bridge to the 21st century! Show the love!
Name: Last Visible Dog to David the Forum Dweeb
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Ronald Reagan was a terrible father!
How the HELL do you know that and what BLOODY relevance does this have to anything being discussed on this forum?
If we are just spewing out disjoined statements that have absolutely no reliance - ahh, ahh
John Holms had a 14 inch long penis - I saw him in a movie.
Name: Tim
email:
Message: Hillary on Education.....Arkansas fell from 49th to 50th in Education Ranking while she had her hand in it....Just imagine how far NY schoolchildren can fall under her tutelage! Also, The NY School system is under the direction of the STATE Legislature, (school board, etc) NOT the legislative branch of the Federal Government. Don't be tricked by her rhetoric.
Name: SHELLY
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Name: Ditch the Witch
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Message: Why are you fund raising hillary? why not just do some of that slick investing in cattle futures that you are so expert at, and Voila, you will have millions.I hope you get to spend the next six years in New York, in Sing Sing, where you belong.
Name: Ditch the Witch
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Message: Why are you fund raising hillary? why not just do some of that slick investing in cattle futures that you are so expert at, and Voila, you will have millions.I hope you get to spend the next six years in New York, in Sing Sing, where you belong.
Name: Last Visible Dog to David the Forum Dweeb
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Todays Quiz for right wingers! Which of the following people are not divorced? 50 Bonus points for any listed below who claims to be a family values person, and has been divorced more than once (hint:initials are BB) !! 1)Bob Barr 2)Newt 3)Trent Lott 4)Hillary Clinton 5)Ronald Reagan 6)Tom Delay 7)Dick Armey 8)All of the above
So, David the Forum Dweeb - let me get this straight - You Democrats are now AGAINST divorce so if your marriage does not work you should CHEAT AND LIE to you spouse (like Bill Clinton) or enable your souse to CHEAT AND LIE by making up fictitious cover stories (can you say Vast Right Wing Conspiracy, I knew that you could).
So in David the Forum Dweeb's twisted little world in WRONG for two people to get a divorce when their relationship does not work and it if GOOD to lie and cheat and publicly humiliate you spouse (on national television). Some of you Democrats are a twisted weird lot.
BTW - I am married to a divorcee - hell, let somebody else break'em in.
-LVD
Name: rick
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Message: Please don"t do this. Your child has been through enough. Republicans will rack you and your family over the coals. It is to bad Bill can not keep his willey in his pants. Also the American people do not understand why you have put up with it for so long. Think about what you are doing, take your (our) money and get out of politics before you and your so called husband take this country into the sewer.
Name: Kevin Adams
email: kca124@aol.com
Message: I just heard that Boris Yeltzin is stepping down in Russia so he can run for senator of New York. I guess I am having a hard time understanding why New Yorkers would want to vote for a representative who does not and never has resided in their state! Are you saying that you do not have any qualified people in your state? If hillary wins, it really makes a negative statement to all who vote for her. Anyone who votes for her is saying that their are no women of her caliber in New York. I imagine there are actually many women of much higher caliber in New York. I would think she would want to represent the people of the state of Arkansas, where she has resided and reaped the benefits for the past 20+ years. I reside in Colorado, and have not visited New York in at least 15 years. Before anyone nominates me to run for Senate in New York, I decline.
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email: r_elvis@hotmail.com
Message: Hillary who?? Oh, you mean the feminist champion whose name is recognizible only because of her husband's accomplishment? The one who embarassed congress with her incompetent socialist health care plan? The one whose education ideas perpetuated the stereotypes of Arkansan ignorance? I have family there, I should know. What I see in Hillary is, frankly, nothing. Here is a (bad) president's wife who was possibly not content to let her husband hold all the power, but she was content to feign support long enough for him to make her famous. Here is a woman whose ideas have failed, whose ideology is far from mainstream, and whose only claim to fame is a few criminal acts--acts which she was happy to let her friends take the fall for. I have one more thing to say. The purpose of congress is the representation of the people--not to further your own agenda. How can you represent a people you do not know? I have spent 1 year in one state and 3 years in another. In both of these cases, I was not a resident long enough to be an insider, or to fully understand the people, culture, and issues of those states. I couldn't possibly be as in tune with those people as I am with those in my home state. The point is, Hillary could not possibly be qualified to represent a people she will not have the opportunity to know before the election. The time she will spend there in the coming year will be of no use to her. The people she will most encounter will be of either political extreme, either already loving or hating her, and not many others.
Name: Kathleen Webster
email: kathleen_webster@hotmail.com
Message: We need to recognize that we will not be electing President Clinton to the Senate. We will be electing an intelligent idividual who has educated herself about our state. Anyone who lives in New York and claims to know all the "ins and outs" of the state is a liar. Every elected official from the town council on up has had to do some learning along the way. We ask that every voter educate themselves on the canidates and their platforms before entering the voting booth. Why shouldn't we ask the canidates to educate themselves as well? So Hillary, go ahead and learn about our great state. If you are well educated on the needs of the constituents, it will not matter where you have lived before. I intend to support you in every way possible.
Name: David
email: LVD aka Sub-Dweeb
Message: Hey Sub,,,, You didn't answer the question!!!!
Name: bill grubbs
email: billg@wtd.com
Message: although I am not a fan, I will not go into a diatribe such as others prior have. I just dont understand why you will subject yourself to any more abuse than you have over the last seven years. Is politics all that wonderful? They say you are intelligent. Get out while the gettin' is good. Sign me a good ole boy from TEXAS.
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Name: Last Visible Dog to DTFD
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I point out that David was flaunting his ignorance in a previous message and this is his best retort:
LVD, Hey Mr. insulting machine. You're back from the dead!!! I guess it takes a long time to look up all those words!! LOL If you call me Dweeb that's great!! It just means you know less than a dweeb.
Funny, you would expect an intelligent person to defend their statement or concede that were wrong - Not David the forum dweeb. So you are still bragging that you are smarter - Ok, fine. You would look less like a dweeb if demonstrated your intelligence rather than just attempting to brag about it.
BTW - You LOL a lot, are you on drugs?
YOU WILL BE KNOWN AS SUB-DWEEB!!!!!
Wow - did you think that retort up all by yourself. I will give you a hint, you look far wittier if you think up an original name to call me rather than merely calling me the name I am calling you - Jeepers, you even fail at the art of school yard name calling.
So Mr. Sub-Dweeb...you are saying that no Republicans were in favor of dismantling public Education? Do you really mean this?
ah, YES none that I know of (enlighten us). You still do not have ANY supporting evidence for your wacko accusation, do you? If is certainly possible that one loose cannon Republican made a speech about "dismantling public schools" but I never heard it. Where would they put the bricks and stuff after they dismantled them?
I guess the Republicans always wanted Social Security too? LOL Get real man!!!!
Are you a lunatic? What does Social Security have to do with Public Education? Quiz - Hey David the Forum Dweeb, when was Social Security voted in? (how much you wanna bet he does not answer).
Yeah buddy, David is kicking butt! (his own).
-LVD
Name: David
email: David@ext.net
Message: Hillary is a very strong woman, and I'm sure welcomes all right wingers insults. Essentially she could eat right wingers for lunch, and Rudeman Guliani is no exception!!!!!
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Name: greg
email: goodimy@yahoo.com
Message: what is her schedule in ny when will she be in buffalo??
Name: David
email: David@ext.net
Message: Hillary is a very strong woman, and I'm sure welcomes all right wingers insults. Essentially she could eat right wingers for lunch, and Rudeman Guliani is no exception!!!!!
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Name: David
email: David@ext.net
Message: Hillary is a very strong woman, and I'm sure welcomes all right wingers insults. Essentially she could eat right wingers for lunch, and Rudeman Guliani is no exception!!!!!
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email: r_elvis@hotmail.com
Message: Hillary who?? Oh, you mean the feminist champion whose name is recognizible only because of her husband's accomplishment? The one who embarassed congress with her incompetent socialist health care plan? The one whose education ideas perpetuated the stereotypes of Arkansan ignorance? I have family there, I should know. What I see in Hillary is, frankly, nothing. Here is a (bad) president's wife who was possibly not content to let her husband hold all the power, but she was content to feign support long enough for him to make her famous. Here is a woman whose ideas have failed, whose ideology is far from mainstream, and whose only claim to fame is a few criminal acts--acts which she was happy to let her friends take the fall for. I have one more thing to say. The purpose of congress is the representation of the people--not to further your own agenda. How can you represent a people you do not know? I have spent 1 year in one state and 3 years in another. In both of these cases, I was not a resident long enough to be an insider, or to fully understand the people, culture, and issues of those states. I couldn't possibly be as in tune with those people as I am with those in my home state. The point is, Hillary could not possibly be qualified to represent a people she will not have the opportunity to know before the election. The time she will spend there in the coming year will be of no use to her. The people she will most encounter will be of either political extreme, either already loving or hating her, and not many others.
Name: Last Visible Dog to DTFD
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I point out that David the Forum Dweeb's message was factually incorrect and blantanly historically childish and foolish and this is his retort:
Still looking up those big words? LOL You're in Democrat territory little man!!!
Well, I did not need a dictionary to understand that the Federalists were not fighting for stronger state's rights as a justification for Slavery. Another hint - check the root of the word! It would be highly improbable for something with the root word "federal" to mean a group fighting for a weaker federal government (that is simple logic - guess not that simple for you)
David - you are short on facts and information and BIG on hot air and empty bragging (a good Democrat). If you ever what to DEBATE the issues or DEBATE about our government and its history, let me know. For now I do not want to interrupt your hot air diatribe.
-LVD
Name: Wall Streeter
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Message: David Dinkins,
I got to agree with you brotherman. Hillary has to be a very strong woman. She's been taking one body blow after another from the Wagger. Unfortunately I think Giuliani will 'wrong foot' her. I mean he's a lot different From Bubba. Bubba breaks the law, Rudy enforces it. It may confuse her. Oh well such is life.
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email: r_elvis@hotmail.com
Message: Hillary who?? Oh, you mean the feminist champion whose name is recognizible only because of her husband's accomplishment? The one who embarassed congress with her incompetent socialist health care plan? The one whose education ideas perpetuated the stereotypes of Arkansan ignorance? I have family there, I should know. What I see in Hillary is, frankly, nothing. Here is a (bad) president's wife who was possibly not content to let her husband hold all the power, but she was content to feign support long enough for him to make her famous. Here is a woman whose ideas have failed, whose ideology is far from mainstream, and whose only claim to fame is a few criminal acts--acts which she was happy to let her friends take the fall for. I have one more thing to say. The purpose of congress is the representation of the people--not to further your own agenda. How can you represent a people you do not know? I have spent 1 year in one state and 3 years in another. In both of these cases, I was not a resident long enough to be an insider, or to fully understand the people, culture, and issues of those states. I couldn't possibly be as in tune with those people as I am with those in my home state. The point is, Hillary could not possibly be qualified to represent a people she will not have the opportunity to know before the election. The time she will spend there in the coming year will be of no use to her. The people she will most encounter will be of either political extreme, either already loving or hating her, and not many others.
Name: Last Visible Dog to mary anne hedges
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Hi. I read that your reform of the health care industry is not effective
The word would be nonexistent. Hillary Health Care was so botched that the Democrat controlled congress refused to even bring it up for a vote
-LVD
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Message: David-- Who are you? You seem as keen to namecalling as you Dems say the Republicans are.
Name: Last Visible Dog to DTFW
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Hey Sub,,,, You didn't answer the question!!!!
I will answer any question you can present - what is this "question" I did not answer? Inquiring minds want to know!
BTW - one comma works just fine!
-LVD
Name: Tim Thompson
email: Elmira, NY
Message: Hillary Clinton -- Fat, dumpy, and ugly (the first Communist "first lady"), dumped by Bill. Will lose BIG in NY. Go back to the hicks in Arkansas! Algore -- LOSER, big BORE. With all his Chinese momey, why doesn't he fix his mouth that is full of crooked, rotten teeth? The perfect pair of sleeze.
Name: David "The Dweeb"
email: LVD "Sub-Dweeb"
Message: I'm sorry Sub. Dweeb is such a clever insult. I couldn't resist using it! It sounds like you might be a little defensive big fella!
Name: Rhoda Kittay
email: SkeezixKit@aol.com
Message: My only regret about moving to Connecticut is that I will not be able to work and vote for you.Best of luck
Name: Last Visible Dog
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Essentially she could eat right wingers for lunch, and Rudeman Guliani is no exception!!!!!
MY GOD! David the Forum Dweeb is breaking the biggest scandal to date!
FLASH!
DATELINE: July 8, 1999
Hillary Clinton revealed today that rumors are indeed true - she is a cannibal!
Name: David
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Message: I am name calling. Democrates will not back down to blow hard right wingers who rudely come to a pro Hillary site and bash her. Right Wingers can f-ck off. Go back to you back stabbing, Goldberg chats. lol The question was about who was divorced Sub-Dweeb ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,More commas for ya Sub-Dweeb. LOL
Name: David
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Message: See,,,,, Sludge ain't so hot! Anyone can make up stuff! LOL
Name: Last Visible Dog to David the Forum Dweeb
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I'm sorry Sub. Dweeb is such a clever insult. I couldn't resist using it! It sounds like you might be a little defensive big fella!
Why would I be defensive - imitation is the sincerest form of flattery (you keep flattering me this much and people will once again think you have a Junior High School Crush on me). By all means, reuse my statements and original material as much as you deem necessary.
-LVD
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Message: Hillary....please tell the voters of New York how many times
Name: David
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Message: Hey!!! Is it my imagination, or does Phil Gramm talk like Deputy Dog? LOL
Name: David
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Message: Why did Newt steal Phil Donahues hair style?
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Message: HILLARY CLINTON HAS NO BUSINESS RUNNING FOR SENATE IN NY. SHE JUST CAN'T FACE THE TRUTH THAT HER DAYS IN THE PUBLIC EYE ARE OVER (THANK GOODNESS). SHE'D RUN FOR DOG CATCHER IF THAT WAS THE ONLY POSITION OPEN! SHE KNOWS ZIP ABOUT NY STATE AND HAD TO DEFER THE ONE PERTINENT QUESTION ABOUT NY TRADE RELATIONS WITH CANADA TO HER SIDEKICK!!!!GRANDEOUS STATEMENTS ABOUT "HELPING PEOPLE" DON'T GET THE JOB DONE. SHE SHOULD GO HOME AND BAKE CHOCOLATE CHIP COOKIES FOR HER MAN!!!!!
Name: David
email: Sub-Dweeb LVD
Message: Hey Sub, You seem a little occupied with that Jr. High Crush thing! Are you gay? I'm not, but if you are it's OK. We tolerate people who are different than us. We have a very large tent. Are you a woman?
Name:
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Message: The only thing I like about Hillary is the pictures of her in leather with the whips!
Name: Last Visible Dog to DTFD
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I am name calling. Democrates will not back down to blow hard right wingers who rudely come to a pro Hillary site and bash her. Right Wingers can f-ck off. Go back to you back stabbing, Goldberg chats. lol The question was about who was divorced Sub-Dweeb ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,More commas for ya Sub-Dweeb. LOL
You would be better served (or severed, the Editor with get that one) if you did more research and study and less exporting of empty hot air. You boldly flaunt your ignorance and seem to almost be proud of it. It is good, neat-o, groovy that you are coming here to be the Liberal savior but you might want to learn about this forum before you "Take control".
This forum is billed as an open forum loosely focused on Hillary Clinton. I started posting regularly on this forum about a year ago and while me and the Editor and other liberals on the forum have had our ups and downs - I think they really do like me (I think Witch Hazel wants me bad - but I digress).
When I first happened on the forum it was full of Ken Star-phobics and mean-spirited anti-conservative slogans (at least in my opinion) and I decided that, since it claims to be an open forum, I would stake my claim as a voice of opposition. Since them I - like many other here - I have become sort of an institution. Some say I veer off to deep end on occasions but nearly everybody that has been around awhile will (should - maybe I am wrong) say that I do research and usually know what I am talking about (they my disagree with my opinion or conclusions).
This is only my opinion - but David the Forum Dweeb, you will become a better member of the forum if you end your "bull in the china shop" persona. Think your statement out - if you make a factually incorrect statement - I am gonna call you on it (as I would expect in return if I made an incorrect statement - of course that has never happen) (BTW - I also have a great sense of humor).
The question was about who was divorced
I think it is all of them - but I concede that I do not know that much about those cats' past personal lives. Why do you find the past personal lives of a bunch of Republican men so interesting? Not to mention what possible relevance does it have. OK, I will concede one thing to David the Forum Dweeb - he does know more than me on one topic. David the Forum Dweeb knows more than I know about the past personal lives and marriage records of Republican men.
BTW - once you master the comma key, the attendant at the mental ward will allow you to have a exclamation point key.
-LVD
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What's this we hear??? The ex-wife of a former Die Schlickfrau co-conspirator... sorry,I mean lawyer.....has given sworn testimony that she saw her husband in possesion of FBI files in their Virginia home and also watched him load data from the files into his laptop computer.
Now,they want to depose Die Schlickfrau again to see what she has to say. Oh well...not to worry....this lawyer will probably be willing to roll over for her (just like Fat Webster) and she's sure to experience (once again) Arkansas Selective Amnesia Disorder while giving testimony!
My question to the voters of NY is...do you wnat a Senator whose memory is so poor that it's a miracle that she can even remember her name?
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Message: http://www.anagramgenius.com/archive/hillar2.gif
Name: Editor to LVD
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Message: "You would be better served (or severed, the Editor with get that one) "
YES! I got that one!
You must be in your element with all these new Dems to debate? Keeps you on your toes.
Name: David
email: Sub-Dweeb LVD
Message: Hey Sub, You seem a little occupied with that Jr. High Crush thing! Are you gay? I'm not, but if you are it's OK. We tolerate people who are different than us. We have a very large tent. Are you a woman?
Name: Another Right Wing Conspirator
email: Mexican_RedHead@webtv.net
Message: Hillary is going to "fix" education in New York? Great!! Can't wait to rank right up there with Arkansas. Let's see, was that 49th or 50th? A race to the bottom. this is nothing but a scam anyway folks. At the last minute Algor is going to announce her as the VP candidate. Happiness is seeing BOTH clinton's in your rear view mirror. At least Monica didn't give him any babies! By the way, Hillary, I have an extra $1,000 to invest. Can you help me?
Name: Last Visible Dog to David the Forum Dweeb
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Hey Sub, You seem a little occupied with that Jr. High Crush thing! Are you gay?
Actually I am - Today, thinking about my beautiful (divorcee) wife and three beautiful children (I am my children's father so to speak) it made me very cheerful and frolicsome.
-Last Visible Gay Dog
Name: Jenny Emerling
email: je1957@aol.com
Message: You and Willy boy brought down the whitehouse---you embaressed our nation----you want to be the first lady (or whatever) no matter what scumbag your married to. Give up Hillery---anyone that has any sense at all can see through you game. I'm from Buffalo--and I for one don't want you here --- And I will be out there campaigning AGAINST you. Go back to Arkanses and take Willy with you.
Name: David
email: LVD
Message: Whaaaat???? Would you stop typing like you're William F. Buckley. LOL We can be normal here. You are such a warrior for standing up to all these anti "Porn Starr" people. You must be a ritious conspiracy theorist nut! LOL
the oopressors of the right wing!
Name: Last Visible Dog to David the Forum Dweeb
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We have a very large tent. Are you a woman?
Strange sequence of questions. If I am a women, what would you like to do to me in your tent?
You Democrat are obsessed with sex
BTW - you do like to steal other people slogans - I believe the "big tent" belongs to the Republicans but you can keep your pup tent for seducing unknowing women - I AM NOT that kind of a women.
Name: Dave
email:
Message: Please tell me you are not a follower of that very dangerous man Kenny Starr!!!!!!!
Name: David
email: LVD
Message: LVD, I'm just talking about another big prick!!! LOL Name: Last Visible Dog to David the Forum Dweeb email: Message: Ronald Reagan was a terrible father! How the HELL do you know that and what BLOODY relevance does this have to anything being discussed on this forum? If we are just spewing out disjoined statements that have absolutely no reliance - ahh, ahh John Holms had a 14 inch long penis - I saw him in a movie.
Name: Last Visible Dog to David the Forum Dweeb
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Whaaaat???? Would you stop typing like you're William F. Buckley.
OH - now you have gone too far - that one really hurt.
You are such a warrior for standing up to all these anti "Porn Starr" people.
Thank you!
You must be a ritious conspiracy theorist nut!
David the Forum Dweeb - are you inventing new words again! (the people at Webster's really frown on that). What is a "ritious"
-LVD
Name: David
email: LVD
Message: LVD, I'm just talking about another big prick!!! LOL Name: Last Visible Dog to David the Forum Dweeb email: Message: Ronald Reagan was a terrible father! How the HELL do you know that and what BLOODY relevance does this have to anything being discussed on this forum? If we are just spewing out disjoined statements that have absolutely no reliance - ahh, ahh John Holms had a 14 inch long penis - I saw him in a movie.
Name: so. cal girl
email: r_elvis@hotmail.com
Message: Ken Starr is unpopular only because he found the dirt. Bill and Hillary are the butt of jokes because they wear / are the dirt.
Name: so cal girl
email: r_elvis@hotmail.com
Message: I couldn't help but notice that the "f" word was edited, but not the ever-more-vulgar word, "bloody". Is that typical Dem lingo?
Name: LASt Visible Dog to DTFD
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LVD, I'm just talking about another big prick!!!
Like I said earlier - Democrats are obsessed with sex. First you talk about the past personal sex lives of Republicans and not you are focusing on the male phallus, what next? Vas Deferens?
(you can almost hear the sound of David desperately searching for a dictionary)
BTW - I am going to refrain from commenting about your lack of ability to use HTML, so far your "kicking right wing butt" is not going so well.
-LVD
Name: David
email:
Message: Hey Sub-Dweeb LVD, What's "Bean Pole", "rhymes with witch", Ann Coulter up too? There is one nasty lady. Hey! LVD....do you tape your friends too? Reagan was a terrible father!!!!
Name: Last Visible Dog to so cal girl (wish they all could be?)
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Message:
I couldn't help but notice that the "f" word was edited, but not the ever-more-vulgar word, "bloody". Is that typical Dem lingo?
This is kinda strange - I use bloody all the time. I never once thought it was worse than the "f" copulation word. How do you figure? The word "bloody" came into my lexicon after watching too much Monty Python in the 70's.
"This parrot is dead"
"No it's not - it just pining for fjords "
"This bloody parrot in dead and if you had not nailed its feet to the perch it would be pushing up the daisies right now"
-LVD
Name: Dawn Langley
email:
Message: Everyone wants to know if Hill is still going to live in NY if she doesn't win. IS RUDY GULIANI GOING TO STAY IF HE DOESN'T? ISN'T ANYBODY ASKING HIM THIS QUESTION? C'MON WE ALL MUST, NEED, HAAAAVVVVE TO KNOW HIS ANSWER! IT'S IMPORTANT! IT'S AN ISSUE! IT'S GERMANE! IT'S RELEVANT! IT'S PERTINENT! IT'S ALL THOSE THING AND MORE...ITS ONE OF THOSE MAGICAL QUESTIONS THAT SHOULD BE ASKED OF EVERY POTENTIAL SENATOR.
Name: Dawn Langley
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Message: Everyone wants to know if Hill is still going to live in NY if she doesn't win. IS RUDY GULIANI GOING TO STAY IF HE DOESN'T? ISN'T ANYBODY ASKING HIM THIS QUESTION? C'MON WE ALL MUST, NEED, HAAAAVVVVE TO KNOW HIS ANSWER! IT'S IMPORTANT! IT'S AN ISSUE! IT'S GERMANE! IT'S RELEVANT! IT'S PERTINENT! IT'S ALL THOSE THING AND MORE...ITS ONE OF THOSE MAGICAL QUESTIONS THAT SHOULD BE ASKED OF EVERY POTENTIAL SENATOR.
Name: David
email:
Message: Hey Sub-Dweeb, Sounds like you need some help getting laid. Is it true that there is a copy of the Starr report in the mens bathroom on Capitol hill? Talk about obsessed!!! LOLOLOL Kenny "wanna be a porn Starr" is one of a kind! By the way....You're the one that has been watching John Holmes porn movies not me!!! LOL
Name: so cal girl to LVD
email: r_elvis@hotmail.com
Message: It would not be ladylike for me to elaborate. Do you have friends from the U.K? Maybe they could clue you in.
Name: Zippy the Wonder Slug
email: David, David, David...
Message:
This "David" fellow illustrates ever so well why there is no Liberal counterpart
to Rush Limbaugh (or Matt Drudge for that matter). Limbaugh has over 20 Million
loyal listeners because he's able to put into words what so many of us already
believe. He gives us evidence that our philosophy works and the Liberal philosophy
fails. If any Liberal had Facts and Logic working for them the way Limbaugh
does he'd be wildly popular. If any Liberal "Gossip" columnist could
bat about .900 (like Matt Drudge) they'd be popular as well. Why don't we
have either? Because Lies and Foolishness can't stand the Light of Truth.
Given the evidence on this Forum, David couldn't stick to debating Political
Philosophy and Policy using only Facts and Logic
if his life depended on it. (Yup, that was an open challenge to David to
debate an issue, even one, without resorting to outright lies and personal
insults. It takes a lot more effort but it's ever so much more satisfying!
Let's see if he takes me up on it.)
Editors, I understand that the vast majority of messages here lately (and there
has been a bunch of them) have been Anti-Hilary but I just can't see why
you would "welcome" this David person. He adds nothing to the debate (OK, Comic
Relief, maybe). I keep hoping you'll raise the standards for such a Welcome. I
mean "Ronald Reagan was a terrible father!"?!?! Compared to what? Clinton?!
What is this guy smoking?! (And where can I get some?)
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Message: Oooooweeee! What juicy stuff I just saw!I just went to the Judicial Watch web site and watched several video clips of sworn testimony given in the Filegate matter. Of particular interest was portions of the testimony of William Kennedy,Esq... whose ex-wife is now making the claims stated in my previos post.I especially enjoyed seeing his "deer in the headlights" look while being questioned,as well as his astounding arrogance and his comically evasive answers.So now we have both Linda Tripp and Kennedy's ex-wife saying that he possesed FBI files on Republicans and we have his then-wife saying that she saw him loading data from these files into a laptop! Time to roll over,Mr Kennedy! You could do a couple of years at Club Fed like Fat Webster,but you could also walk out of prison with a cool $750,000.... just like Fat Webster.But remember,Mr Kennedy....don't make the same mistake that Fat Webster made.....make sure you declare the hush money on your 1040! ROTFLMAO!
Name: David
email: Zippy
Message: Oh no!!!! Not another REALLY smart right winger. LOL Zippy I'm glad that you agree that Ronnie Reagan was a terrible father. LOL I am so impressed with your obvious wit, and knowledge (not). LOL Why dont you go tape a friends phone calls or something. LOL
Name: David
email:
Message: Hillary is going to kick Rude-ly Gulianni's butt.
Name: so cal girl
email: r_elvis@hotmail.com
Message: Maybe David doesn't watch the New York polls!
Name: David
email:
Message: I heard that Rude-ly Gulianni is sponsering a new award for the NYPD. It's call the broken broom handle award!
Name: David
email: So Cal I thought GOPs dont read polls?
Message:
Name: So cal girl to David
email: r_elvis@hotmail.com
Message: They serve their purpose as long as the right questions are asked.
Name: Owl D.
email:
Message: David has obviously been brainwashed - by too many enemas.
Name: so cal girl
email:
Message: Hubble...now there's a good friend. Take the heat, go to jail, and the Clintons are sitting pretty.
Name: David
email:
Message: ALL RIGHT!!!! I love bashing right wingers!!! LOL Come on right wingers all at once or one at a time. Come on all you "taping a friend is OK" Goldberg lovers. LOL Come on "Family values is important only if it's a Democrat" right wingers. You and Linda Tripp belong in the same cage. LOL
Name: so cal girl
email:
Message: Wait a minute! Did I just see David advocate concentration camps for his political opposition?
Name: David
email:
Message: I love bashing "I wanna fly like my Daddy, that's why I need to guard Texas" Right wingers. LOL
Name: Harriet Glover
email: gewing1@twcny.rr.com
Message: HI HILLARY, GLAD YOU ARE HERE IN OUR GREAT STATE OF NY.MY WHOLE FAMILY ADMIRES YOU AND YOUR COURAGE FOR COMING HERE AND RUNNING FOR U.S. SENATOR/ WE KNOW YOU WILL DO A GREAT JOB. "YOU GO GIRL!!! RE BEHIND YOU 100%. YOU MAKE A LOT OF SENSE. HOPE YOU CAN MAKE TO CORTLAND.
Name: Paul
email: Paul0276@worldnet.att.net
Message: Hillary, As a life long resident of Long Island, New York(see if you can find it on the map), I would never in a million years ever vote for you. How can you honestly say with a straight face say you can represent New York when you never lived here? I think that it is a big injustice that you can even run. Why dont you run in Arkansas? If you lose, are you going to stop being a Yankee fan? New York should be represented by a New Yorker, not a phony. GIULIANI FOR SENATE!!!!
Name: Witch Hazel
email: To LVD
Message: LVD, how did you find out my secret? I DO have a HUGE crush on you (well, most of the time when you are not too nit picky) and I DO want you in the worst way.
Just tell me when and where, big boy. Of course, it won't be as exciting as it was with Bill in the Oval Office.
Name: Patrick F. McConnell
email: Habitatpat@aol.com
Message: Personnally, I think New York is darn lucky to have Hillary run for senate. I wish she could come down here to Virginia and run. New York's gain is our loss. All of these arguments urging her not to run are so short sighted. Please, start thinking about the long term and the huge amount of good someone of Hillary's ability can bring to New York through the US Senate. Sure, she has a lot to learn about New York. She will certainly learn fast. And think of the fire she will bring to New York causes! She is a skilled politician in her own right and more knowledgable about issues (like education and children) than anyone else now considering to run for the Senate in New York. Is it fair to call her a "carpetbagger"? Maybe? But did anyone else complain when JFK left New York to run for Senate elsewhere? Did anyone really complain when Jay Rockefeller left New York to win a Senate seat in West Virginia? Maybe someone did, but look at what both men have been or were able to accomplish! I would think it a wise and safe bet for the people of New York to send Hillary to the Senate on their behalf. Democracy, of course, is all about choice. Run Hillary! Run! Give New Yorkers their chance to chose!
Name: Mike Benjamino
email: Iceland428@AOL.com
Message: The worth of a nation can be evidenced by the way it treats its elderly. I believe that we as the richest nation in the world can do a much better job. We spend billions to support people that have no intention of working and becoming participants in this society while we ignore and take advantage of the people that worked till they could work no more to build tis country. To place someone in a nursing facility you must give up their lives accomplishment and if the government helps you lose it anyway. You too will be old one day but you will never be needfull of help. PLEASE CONSIDER HE ELDERLY AS THE VALUABLE ASSET THEY ARE AND WORK TO TREAT THEM WITH dignity financialy medically and personally. With best regards Mike
Name: charlie
email: co@co.com
Message: Before Hillary starts to campaign to represent the state of New York, shouldn't she first become a resident? First things first!
Name: ShantyShanti
email: Of course I do
Message: Please, please not another Clinton. And all this time I thought there was a God!!
Name: anne vig
email: invrus@aol.com
Message: hi lovely lady, i'm a lifelong new york resident. i wish you wouldn't run in new york. not because of any major reason other than that i care about you. i WILL vote for YOU if you run, however, i would rather have been able to vote for mayor guiliani. he has been good for new york. i'd actually prefer seeing him run for governor or continue as mayor (if he has not run out of terms), however, it seems we're stuck with pataki for a while. what do you need this for? i know it's going to get abusive, and i am going to get really aggravated. well, whatever you decide, i'm behind you 100%. give 'em hell!
Name: Dave
email: I've seen the light
Message: Thanks Bill & Hillary. I've been a sexually frustrated mid 30's male and now I've figured it out. Forget about being "Mr. Nice Guy." I'll get involved in Democratic politics, march for abortion and get some on the bus ride home from the abortion march. This is going to be so cool. Is Chelsea in on this also? I always liked California.
Name: Newyawker
email: dempeeps@nyc.com
Message: Yo Hillary babe! Ova here woman, I gots sum tin ta tells ya. Us dumb New Yawkers dunt want you fat ass here! OK in english --- Hey B*&$ Get lost! You never lived in NY what makes you think we want you as Senator? You have no plans on doing anything for NY. Why would anyone even think you care about NY. Don't even try to tell us you love NY. The longest you spent here was to go shopping! Lets get real, Yo is a publicity Ho! This means your only interested in staying in the public eye. By the way the public eye is black and blue from looking at you. If I pour some Visine on you will you go away? Hey Hillary, if you think New Yawkers are rude, Just show you fat rear end here in the broughs, and we'll show you the Bronx Cheer! Thrrrrap!
Name:
email: Voter@freedom.com
Message: Will ya still need me, will ya still feed me, when I Vote for someone else?
Name: a nony mouse
email:
Message: In her book Passion and Betrayal, Jennifer Flowers quotes Bill Clinton telling how "Hillary was attracted to women" (p.42), and didn't enjoy sex (Her high school newspaper predicted she'd become a nun, "Sister Frigidaire.")
Name:
email: nilesjo
Message: Hillary: I must admit to my amazement that despite the seven years of corruption, immorality, lies, manipulation, spin of the press, abuse of privilige, patent cover-ups and obstruction of justice, you and your felonious partner (spouse in name only) continue to be able to garner a sizeable number of supporters. I am much less interested in your being a "Carpetbagger" than I am much in your response to the following substantive questions: (1) Only a few highly experienced experts can consistently make profits in the commodity futures trading markets. Those who understand these markets say that IMPOSSIBLE for an inexperienced player such as you to turn $1000 into $100,000 for a $99,000 profit. Absolutely impossible unless, of course, the trader you used "assigned" those profitable trades to your account after the fact which we know to be the fact. These phony transactions have all the earmarks of a payoff considering that your trader had connections to the Tyson operation. Hillary, did you lie about the $99,000 cattle futures trading profits since you couldn't possibly have been that successful without illegal manipulation? (2) When questioned by the Independent counsel regarding the Whitewater "Castle Grande" sham transactions you claimed not to recognize the term "Castle Grande" even though it was later shown that you were a principal billing attorney. Strangely, all the other Rose Law firm people questioned seemed to remember that "Castle Grande" was the name used in the office. Hillary, could it be that you lied to cover up our involvement in this sham transaction? (3) You told the IC that your involvement with Whitewater as a billing partner at the Rose Law firm was just incidental and that you didn't know where your billing records were. After being under court subpoena for Two years YOUR billing records mysteriously and miraculously are found in a White House residence study that YOU use and with YOUR fingerprints on them. This was a clear situation of obstruction of justice since only the most moronic buffoon could believe that you didn't have them all along and you just routinely lied about them. (4) Examination of the records showed that your involvement was far more than just incidental -- it was substantial -- another convenient lapse of memeory (or was it just more of the BIG LIE?). (5) You claimed that you had nothing to do with the Travelgate affair and yet testimony and notes subpoenad from the Whitehouse lawyers explicitly implicate you as the princpal that ORDERED the firings! Did you forget that, Hillary, or did you just make use of your favorite ploy, lie with a straight face? Hillary, by your actions you have demonstrated a continual willingness to use lies and dishonesty to cover-up your wrong-doings and to avoid accountability for your actions. It is clear that neither Bill or YOU are ever willing to admit to being anything less than PERFECT unless you are caught red-handed! Both Bill and YOU are birds of a feather when it comes to high-sounding rhetoric and expressing sincere compassion for the common man. People are so hungry for your phony (but convincing) act that they continue to express admiration for you. However if those who gush all over you paid less attention to your phony words and more attention to your real actions, they would understand who and what you really are -- a horrible, hateful egotist inside the body of a terrific actress! But what chance does the average honest citizen stand against a highly trained attorney such as you who has been taught all the skills and art of public advocacy. The positive public reaction you get from some sectors of the public is just further evidence that the following observations were well stated: "..you can fool SOME of the people all of the time..." (A.Lincoln) "There's a sucker born every minute" (P.T.Barnum) Hillary, I do hope you run. Whether your opponent is Guiliano or Lazio I will look forward to your having to answer substantive questions as those I have listed above. As a former New Yorker (who was a REAL Yankees fan) I have faith in the skepticism and cynacism of the average NY resident. I think that in the final analysis they will get your number, pile on for your opponent, and send you packing to try out your act in some state with more suckers per capita!
Name: pat
email: pierce50@hotmail
Message: Thank you for not choosing to run in Virginia
Name: Dawn Langley
email: degrading pictures
Message: I want people to take note of the pictures of Hillary in whips and chains. Does anyone else but me find these pictures sexist and degrading? Do we have any pics of her opponent Guiliani sporting a whip and a leather nighty? ONLY to a woman candidate would people do this. Yes, I have seen pics of Billy Bob, el presidente, but he's sort of the exception to the rule. AND he's on his way OUT, not IN like Hillary. Since SHE wasn't the one fooling around with "M" it would seem that some people would have a sense of fairplay and refrain from caricaturing her in this negative, sexualized light. Remember, the sex scandal was Bill's, not Hill's.
Name: Vince
email: vincefos@toolcity.net
Message: Run Hillary Run! You and your husband have proven that you can fool the people any time you want. The New Yorkers aren't any different than the residents of Arkansas (although they think they are a bunch of smart yankees). I still believe Rostenkaski that you are the smartest woman . It's a shame he end up in jail though. I beleive in your principles: there is a sucker born everyday and if you don't take advantage of them ...your are a fool.
Name: EIR
email: Executive Intelligence Review
Message: The Destabilization of the U.S. Presidency - Following the trail.
by Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr.
...the so-called "Whitewater" operation, which surfaced as a "dirty tricks" stunt of President George Bush's campaign, during 1992. That dirty trick resurfaced in a new, Richard Mellon Scaife-funded incarnation, against both President and Hillary Clinton, during the latter months of 1993. Since that time, most of the newly surfaced, covert operations run against the President have been backed by both the same Richard Mellon Scaife central to the "Get LaRouche" efforts of 1983-1989, and by foreign-intelligence assets such as the propaganda machines of the British Commonwealth's Rupert Murdoch and the Hollinger Corporation. MORE...
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Message: Hillary, Why dont you run for Senator of the VILLAGE
Name: a nony mouse
email:
Message:
PHOTOGRAPH OF COCAINE SMUGGLER JORGE CABRERA WITH HILLARY CLINTON.
Name: Shelly
email:
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Message: ?chat_name=Shelly
Name: Shawn Patrick Christie
email:
Message: Dear Honorable First Lady, Last year while I interned for Representative Louise M. Slaughter, NY's 28th District in Rochester. I had the opportunity to hear you speak at Celebrate '98 in Seneca Falls. I've always known that women's rights was all about human rights. I know that you know it, as evidenced in your speech. I encourage you to run in New York State, because I believe you can represent N.Y. well. I am a proud New Yorker who believes that our state is a proud state, setting the nations precedence in historical moves to preserve human rights. If elected to the Federal level as United States Senator from N.Y. I feel confident that you will continue to fight for New Yorks progressive human rights agenda. Continue to rely upon our States Iroquois mother's as a grounding for your platform. I recommend Rochester, New York as a place for you to call home. Why not run for U.S. Senate from the very city that Susan B. Anthony brought our nation the hope of womens rights in the first place. Besides Upstate New York is much prettier than Down State New York.
Name: Allan
email:
Message: First Lady, I support you. I hope that you'd better develop the friendship between American and Chinese after making success.
Name: a nony mouse
email: to Dawn Langley
Message:
Awwwwww, poor little Dawn Langley is offended by the parody picture of Hillary the dominatrix. Socialism, lies, fraud and Hillary's criminal behavior doesn't offend Dawn, but a parody picture does. You need to find someone else to live your life vicariously through. This Hillary worship isn't healthy to a reality based world view.
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email:
Message: Best of luck in your Senate race. I would gladly trade you for anyone of our Texas Senators--but that would be asking for to much so I will settle for you being a Senator from New York Jerry Ott
Name: CLindeman
email: clinde@aol.com
Message: I am pleased you are running NYS. I feel you have a lot to offer in the fields of health and education. However, I am disappointed that you support Jersualem as the capital of Israel. I realize you must capture the Jewish vote in NYS. I really It is unfortunate our politicans must compromise their beliefs and, more importantly, what is in our national interest in order to attract votes. When will we have a politican who can truly act on what is moral and just? LONG LIVE THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE AND THEIR ASPIRATIONS TO MAKE A NATION. Thank you.
Name: CLindeman
email: clinde@aol.com
Message: I am pleased you are running NYS. I feel you have a lot to offer in the fields of health and education. However, I am disappointed that you support Jersualem as the capital of Israel. I realize you must capture the Jewish vote in NYS. I really do not believe you believe in your stance on this issue. It is unfortunate our politicans must compromise their beliefs and, more importantly, what is in our national interest in order to attract votes. When will we have a politican who can truly act on what is moral and just? LONG LIVE THE PALESTINIAN PEOPLE AND THEIR ASPIRATIONS TO MAKE A NATION. Thank you.
Name: Nick.Hadjimarkos
email: nickh@gateway.net
Message: A Message IN the history of the WHITE HOUSE and the "FIRST LADIES" Mrs. Hillary Rodham Clinton, will be remembered as a wife who she STAND BY for her promiscuous,cheating Husband? Not because she liked the idea and the humiliation, but because she wanted to stay in power as bad as he did, so she support him no matter what was the circumstances. That I call ANBESION.... Now that, all that power is coming to the END.Mrs. Hillary Rodham (C) She wants a big BITE, the State of N.Y. So she uses the WHITE HOUSE