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Name: Hillary Rodham Clinton
email: 1. We must take responsibility for what happens to the guns we own.
Message: All Guns Must be Registered
Responsible Use of Weapons
1. We must take responsibility for what happens to the guns we own.
2. Just as we do with our cars ALL guns must be registered
3. Just as we do with our cars if we sell or transfer our guns we must notify the authorities. If we do not we can be held liable for the results
4. Just as we do with our cars, if our gun is lost or stolen we must immediately notify the authorities or be liable for the consequences.
first.lady@whitehouse.gov
Name: Zippy the Wonder Slug to "Hillary Rodham Clinton"
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Message:
Just as we do with our cars ALL guns must be registered
We are not guaranteed the "Right to Bear Cars" in the Constitution.
The Government has no right to know how many or what kind of guns I care to
own. If they have those records they can effectively confiscate all of the
law abiding citizen's weapons whenever they decide to. Do you really
think it's wise to give them that ability?
I have a better suggestion; Require those who wish to own firearms to pass an approved Training Course. This course would be provided free or at a very small fee. This course would cover Safety, Maintenance and the Law regarding Guns. This course would NOT be provided by the Federal Government. There should be several competing courses offered by different companies and/or organizations. I might even back a more comprehensive Training Course that included combat tactics and training for those who wish to be licenced to carry a concealed weapon in their county/state. All of these things would be best done at the state level. If the Feds can be kept out of this completely we'll all be better off.
This approach helps law abiding citizens and makes criminals nervous. It doesn't penalize law abiding citizens just because they want to own a gun. It helps insure that citizens who choose to be armed are educated in the safe and effective use of their firearms. And best of all, it keeps the Feds out of my private business.
More guns in the hands of trained, law abiding citizens will (and always did) reduce violent crime.
And one last suggestion; let's start enforcing all the gun laws on the books before we go making any new ones (that won't work either)...
Name: Control Girl
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Message: "Why don't you people like this woman?"
Well, it is very nice that Hillary went a shook the shildren's hands and kissed the babies for the Kosovo refugees arriving in this country. It is also extremely admirable that Jesse Jackson secured the release of the Prisoners of War in the "Kosovo Konflict". However, neither of these actions negates the basic idiots that the actioners are. Even the most immoral person appears moral once in awhile. The dumbest person says something smart once in awhile. The ugliest person appearz handsome in just the right light. The fattest chick looks a lot slimmer in the right outfit. Are you getting the point here? Hillary is basically a criminal and a pretty smile doesn't change that. Jesse Jackson is basically a racist and his admirable actions toward these three white people doesn't make him any less so.
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Message: P.S. Neither one of them needs to hold any public office.
Name: Register Guns to Zippy
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Message: I have bad news for you Zippy. Since the Littleton massacre gun control is gaining acceptance. While we have a constitutional right to bear arms, we do not have the right to bear unregistered arms.
Your argument about the government knocking on every door and confiscating our weapons is anachronistic. Those days are over. There are 260 million people in this country. Where would the government get that much manpower to confiscate that many guns. Be practical. And even if the government tried to confiscate our arms, we would be so up in arms that the government would be forced to stop. If we can stop the war in Vietnam and Kosovo, we can easily stop the government from confiscating our guns.
What good would training do to stop crime? Those two Littleton killers and most of the other school killers were sharp-shooters. We have a right to drive a car, but we do not have a right to drive an unregistered car.
Name: Minglewood
email: To: Mrs. Clinton
Message: I really like Zippy's suggestion about required gun safety training.
At first I wondered how many criminals would take the required classes.
But the key statement here is it makes criminals nervous.
This is such a good suggestion, would you please respond to us what you think about this idea?
If you can't or don't want to respond on this Forum, would you please make an announcement at your next press conference? If you just mention that it was Zippy's idea, we will all know who you mean.
Can't wait to hear from you.
Minglewood Blues - Northern California
Name: Archie Bunker to the Hidden-Guns Advocates
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Message: I don't know if you saw this episode that I was in, but years ago when hijacking planes was still a new phenomenon, and we did not have the technology we have now to counteract it, I came up with a terrific idea on my show how we could protect ourselves against hijackers. The reason why I am telling you this is because it's exactly the same philosophy the "Hidden-Guns" group advocates, of which Zippy, Minglewood and the NRA are charter members.
According to the Hidden-Guns group, the more guns in the hands of "the people" the better... And the better trained they are the better. Well, I agree. I think every adult should have a gun and be trained to shoot to kill. We must not maim our victims because we are not trained and can't shoot straight. If we maim our victims, or miss entirely, we are as good as dead. It makes good sense. Kill first before they kill you.
Now, I came up with a very good idea to stop hijacking on planes. You just hand everyone who boards the plane a gun, and take the guns away when they get off. If everybody on the plane has a gun the criminals will be VERY "NERVOUS" as Minglewood rightly pointed out. No decent, self-respecting hijacker would hijack a plane if everybody on board has a gun.
That philosophy works the same way on land. If the government supplied every adult in every house a gun and taught them how to kill, the criminals would get very nervous. Minglewood is absolutely right. A chicken in every pot and a gun for every adult. You got that right, Minglewood.
Name: ControlGirl
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Message: ...lotta blank spaces up there. I think someone has a little too much time on their hands. Perhaps a job is in order...
Name: Gun advocate
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Message: Yep, the government should supply every adult with a whole assortment of guns. You need a gun to carry in your purse if you just want to kill one or two people (in self-defense of course) We need a rifle to shoot a deer. We need an AK rifle to mow down a crowd, grenades to blow up a shopping center and tactile nuclear bombs to blow up a whole city.
Minglewood and Zippy have the right idea. Wow! Would that make the criminals nervous.
Name: Gun 'em Down
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Message: Notice when the subject turns to guns that it brings out the worst in people. The editors have erased some really violent stuff on this forum written by a gun owner. Gun owners have a deep-seated hatred for mankind. Don't kid yourself that it's for protection. If you own a gun dig deep inside yourself and you will know what you really want to do with that gun. You want to do what a man just wrote on this forum that was erased by the editors. That's who you really are. Face who you really are and stop kidding yourself.
Name: Randy
email: randygoff@yahoo.com
Message: Dear Ms. Clinton: How wonderful the internet is to allow me to type my thoughts to the first lady! (I know the mail may allow me to do the same, but this seems so much more personal and immediate.) My subject is the Colorado tradegy. My first thought when I heard the news has haunted me since. Why didn't an adult in the school know about these kids and do something? Everybody seemed to know there was a problem with these kids and the group they belonged to. Straight to my suggestion: Instead of only plain couselors in the schools, how about a Yenta? Someone who's main occupation is to irritate, investigate, question, and mostly care about the personal lives of the students. True, it would be violating the young people's civil rights. But in every instance I have heard young people talking about this tradegy, they have said the same thing "how come the administration didn't do anything?" They all wonder where the "adults" were and why we didn't protect them. I wonder too. Enough time spent giving young people their "space"; along with a little space, immature people need a lot of attention, guidance and especially caring. Everyone is saying "how could this have been prevented?" I believe that If someone had said: a. "what are you playing on that computer?" b. "you seem a little alienated from the other kids, what's going on?" c. "I need to search your locker. It's a procedure to keep you kids safe" d. "what does the swastika mean? And why are you wearing that overcoat when it's so hot?" it might have meant a huge difference. Just that someone is paying attention means so much to all of us. I raised a little girl (not mine) from the age of 3 to 9, she then went back to live with her mother. She and I had dinner when she was thirteen and the subject of my overseeing came up. I sheepishly appologized for being so involved in her life and friends and school and generally for being so hard on her. She said, "better that than being ignored."
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Message: Oh,my,oh,my! What's going on here?? America's President has bombed a Chinese Embassy and killed two "diplomats"? And after the Chinese did so much for Billy Bob in '94,'95 and '96.Did you lovers of Die Schlickfrau see yesterday's front page story in the LA Times? It seems that Johnny Chung is saying that an Arkansas restauranteur who was a long time frien of Billy Bob approached the Chinese government before the '96 election asking for a cool $1,000,000.00<> for Billy Bob and the democrat Party.Now,I wonder who the person in question might have been.It certainly couldn't have Yah Lin "Charlie" Trie,now could it??
Name: What you should know about Marilyn Manson
email: tools@email.bigsky.net
Message: I hope this reaches you Hillary. Hillary, I have great respect for you and hope that you will pass this on to the President and hold him to his statement that he will meet with the music and entertainment industry. We cannot take on the NRA without addressing the 1st amendment.
This cannot mean what we say is free speech. This is demoralizing and degrading to our country. PLEASE! Help us! This cannot be what you mean when you say "It Takes a Village."
Quotes from Marilyn Manson:
"The message that I'm sending out to America is raise your kids better or I'll be raising them for you. I want to raise kids in truth and tell them that everything is a lie--there is no truth!" (RIP, 2/95).
Manson is not taking a "live and let live" posture. He is on an apocalyptic mission. "Each age has to have at least one brave individual that tried to bring an end to Christianity. No one has managed to succeed yet, but maybe through music, we can finally do it" (Metal Edge, 7/96). "Hopefully, I'll be remembered as the person who brought an end to Christianity" (SPIN, 6/96). "I'm here to call Christian America on their bluff," he says (Faces, 2/95). "Christianity is just another product, so figure out which lie works best for you. That's all they are--they're all lies. Even if there is a god, that doesn't mean you have to worship it. I believe in myself" (RIP, 10/95).
Unlike White Zombie, his posturing is more than some kind of comic book Satanism, calculated to perturb parents. Manson is said to be an ordained Satanist minister and claims to have "a special place" in Anton Lavey's organization, the Satanic Church of America (RIP, 2/95).
Perspective of a MM concert:
At the height of the concert, he magically reappeared dressed in a red shirt and a black coat and tie. The stage and podium were draped in huge red banners, deliberately designed to evoke the image of the Nazi swastika. [In place of the swastika symbol, Manson uses a jagged, downward arrow - the universal warning sign for hazardous materials - which Manson's fans consider the sign of the Anti-Christ. The imagery (and the lyrics to "AntiChrist Superstar") are Manson's way of saying that Christians have become the Nazis of America today.] Manson postured and pounded the pulpit, as the audience chanted rhythmically with the chorus. I started to feel like I was at a Nazi youth rally. He paced the stage like a frenzied evangelist, tearing pages from a Bible, tossing them to the crowd. The audience swayed and writhed to the music, lifting their hands as if they were at a charismatic worship service. And in a way, they were. This was their religion and Manson was their prophet.
His T-shirts:
In his lyrics, his interviews, his concerts and even his T-shirts, Manson pounds out the message to strike back at your world, hate authority and tear it all down. Manson's T-shirts speak louder than his music, here. His earliest shirts encouraged his fans to "Kill God...Kill Your Mom and Dad...Kill Yourself" and claimed that Manson was the "God of F***" [which should be understood less in terms of sex, and more in terms of chaos]. On the Superstar tour, they sold T- shirts proclaiming: "When I'm God, Everyone Dies," and "Jesus Hates Me - This I Know." He habitually closes his concerts by getting the audience to chant: "We hate love / We love hate!"
Name: Volunteering
email: PD315@aol.com
Message:
Hello Hillary,
I am interested in volunteering for Mrs. Clinton when (if) she runs for
senate.
Would you please send me information on where I need to call or go to help. Thank you.
Name: Your Speech on Gun Laws
email: baott@postoffice.swbell.net
Message: Hillary, i totally disagree with the stand you took on c-span today the problem with our country isn't the gun law's. its all these child rite laws put into schools by liberals. as long as parents are not allowed to discipline there children because they afraid the school councilor well find out and try and have the state take there kid's away your always gonna have these problems. gun's don't kill people immoral people with bad agendas do. the biggest problem i see with you and your husband is that you think your so much smarter then everybody else. that your opinion is the only one that matters.
Name: Clinton and Hillary in 2001
email: benpa@aol.com
Message: From: BenPa@aol.com
>Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:50:04 EDT
>Subject: Re: Run for NY
>To: editors@hillary.org
>X-Mailer: AOL for Macintosh sub 56
>Reply-To: BenPa@aol.com
Hi. Hillary
I live in Ct. And the best governor we ever had was Ella Grasso and I think
you would make an excellent senator. I think you can make some of those wind
bags look silly.
Good luck and run run run run run you got my vote. Maybe we will get some action on health care. Clinton and Hillary in 2001
Name: Stefanie Wilson
email: Stefaniew@aeimusic.com
Message: America will always be threatened by an intelligent, articulate woman.
Name: Robert E. Wood
email: bobsounds@taconic.net
Message: It seems an impossible but necessary rite of passage- that so fine a woman would have to be so hurt, and so embarrassed in order to run for political office.
Why does our culture demand that political candidates either become whores to the power brokers, or martyrs to the media?
I strongly support your run for Senate- if that is what you want to do. But could you find a place in the world where your inner peace might be assisted in centering your day. If you do run I hope you won't seek revenge against those of us who were so repelled , outraged by the Starrhounds and made our voices known to the Senate. The others may not be worth helping - having been so benumbed they are incapable of responding to thoughtful questions of governance, real problems of world citizenship. I wish there were a way to help you move forward your best of all dreams.
Robert E. Wood,
PO Box 56 Claverack,NY
( Columbia County- Republican
heartland)
But fearing what will befall should you begin a run, I can visualize ,
and therefore following is some of the typical stuff that will fill the
air:
I offer to contribute to the purchase of a supply of toilet plungers for Ghouliani's Personal Security Detail.
Name: Patricia Bertovic
email: relocation@prudentialthompsonwood.com
Message: Dear First Lady Hillary, I have never written to anyone famous, however you have inspired me to do so. You are strength personified. Oh, maybe behind the scene it is different, however public perception is changing how they see you. You have always been stong, intellignet and outspoken and that scared people. Today you are polished like a gem. Good for you! You inspire me to be a better mother, person and leader (and woman, you look dazzeling on Vogue). My heartfelt wishes to you for a happy life.
Patricia Bertovic, Mechanicsburg, Pa
Name: OOPS......
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Message: BELGRADE, May 8 — Igniting a diplomatic firestorm, a NATO air raid hit the Chinese embassy in Belgrade shortly before midnight Friday, killing at least three people and injuring four, Chinese sources said. The raid came hours after NATO confirmed that one of its bombs went astray and hit a hospital in Serbia’s third largest city, reportedly killing 15 people and injuring 70.
Name: to Registration NAZI
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Message: I have bad news for you Zippy. Since the Littleton massacre gun control is gaining acceptance. While we have a constitutional right to bear arms, we do not have the right to bear unregistered arms.
Adolf Hitler made the assertion that the German citizens need register their guns. Shortly after, the NAZIs confiscated those weapons. This, of course, made it very easy to invade the Jewish ghettos. Unarmed citizens are so much easier to pacify than armed citizens.
Besides, what good would registering guns do? It would tell the government about guns ownedby law abiding citizens - period. There is ONLY one possible logical end to gun registration and that is confiscation - period.
Your argument about the government knocking on every door and confiscating our weapons is anachronistic. Those days are over.
Then why do gun control advocates (actualy a misnomer - "Gun confiscation" advocates) want gun registration? I wonder what those poor Jews thought about gun registration as the government later confiscated their weapons. I wonder if those law abiding Jews regretted theri decision to register.I am one of those people who stopped a crime in progress (and saved my own butt) by using a handgun responsibly. Despite the lies of gun confiscation advocates, this happens far, far more often than handgun abuse.
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Message: KENN STARR LOSES AGAIN!!!
ALEXANDRIA, Va., May 7 — With jurors deadlocked, a judge declared a mistrial Friday in the case of a woman charged with obstructing Kenneth Starr’s investigation of President Bill Clinton by giving false testimony.
AFTER MORE THAN eight hours of deliberation, the foreman said jurors were hopelessly deadlocked on all four charges against Julie Hiatt Steele.
“I will then declare a mistrial in this case,” said U.S. District Judge Claude Hilton.
Earlier, Hilton announced that he had gotten a note from the jury saying, “Any further deliberation will not — and the word ’not’ has been underlined — change the outcome.”
Steele was charged with lying in statements and grand jury testimony that undercut her one-time friend Kathleen Willey’s allegation of an unwanted sexual advance by Clinton.
Clinton has denied the allegation.

JULIE WON!
Kenny couldn't beat Susan and he couldn't beat Julie either. The girls WON!
Name: Response to Anti-Gun-Registration
email: You are not thinking.
Message: There is ONLY one possible logical end to gun registration and that is confiscation - period.
BEGIN THINKING - Here are the VERY VALID REASONS:
1.If you registered your gun you could NOT sell it to a felon, or a minor.
2. If you registered your gun and some kid got a hold of it you would be fined.
3. If somebody got it and hurt somebody else you would be liable.
4. You would be more careful hiding your guns from your kids.
5. Evil people who own guns could not use them at will as they do now because they could be traced.
6. Countries who register their guns have a lower crime rate.
7. Criminals caught with an unregistered guns go to jail. Another way to keep crime rate down.
You have fallen for the NRA registration propaganda. I am one of those people who stopped a crime in progress (and saved my own butt) by using a handgun responsibly. Despite the lies of gun confiscation advocates, this happens far, far more often than handgun abuse.
START THINKING: How would registration of your gun have changed this incident? You are falling for the NRA propaganda. Don't protect evil people who want to do vile things with their guns. If you are a good person and wish to use your gun for moral reasons then why are you protecting the criminals?
You are comparing us with NAZI Germany. America is not Nazi Germany. We are a democracy. If the police went around houses confiscating registered guns they would be stopped within the hour.
START THINKING: The only way the police could go around confiscating our registered guns is by a vote in Congress. Start thinking: do you really think Congress would pass such a mandate? Our form of government is not a tyranny. You are not thinking. You are just following the NRA crazies and that is scary.
Name: US Citizen
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Message: The right to bear arms shall not be infringed upon. Why is that? Were our forefather's nervous about excessive power of the government over the right of the people to protect themselves against whom tho? The government or other people for example bad people or criminals who sneak into your house and kill your wife and kids. All this obsession with guns! Too many violent movies perhaps! The British and the Japanese have strict gun laws. And kids with guns whose fault is that the schools, the media, or perhaps their dumb parents. Yes, be brave speak up. Do we still live in a Dodge City mentality and to be safe we must arm ourselves? Sorry, I don't buy that. I never owned a weapon. Never will own something that can be stolen from me and used to hurt, maim, or kill some other poor human being. Cmon
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Message: I never owned a gun either, and I never want to. When you own a gun it means that you are planning to kill someone, either as an aggressor or in self-defense. How many times do you read about couples getting into a fight over something stupid and killing each other, just because they had a gun. If they did not have a gun they would just hurt the other person.
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Message: "WAG THE DOG" Two young amateurs soldier Latinos is easy to put in a tramp. I believe the the game of the Nato was that those latinos should be killed by Milosovich army or by conspiracy of Nato-Nazi, to have reason to destroy Yugoslavia. I gues Mr. Jackson save the life of those no smart Latino soldiers, and the inocente people of Yugoslavia.
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Message: 30 years and more ago, just about every kid outside the city limits had a gun and many would bring them to school for show & tell. The culture was a lot different back then, more RESPECT for LIFE, more RESPECT for DECENCY.
Name: cathy lowry
email: krasney@buffalo.edu
Message: dear hillary i attended the working women forum at buf. state college. i am so delighted that you are beginning to take an active political role of your own. i am very concerned however about security measures as i observed them that day. didn't seem to be much. i so very much want to see you suceed, i was the women with the white hat who was filming. please make sure security is state of the art. you are a person who could really make things happen. it wasn't politics as usual. i would like to help work on womens isues please send info on programs. cathy lowry
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Message: Hi Nato Leaders, You say sorry when you kill inocent people. How about if somebody kill your mother! Did you accept the word sorry?. You Nato just test your weapon with defenseless people, that is coward action. You Nato use the media to manipulate the whole word include your own people, but not Yugoslavia, that is coward action. You Nato just lie like Clinton ok.
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Message: To Cathy Lowry....you mentioned in your very moving note to Die Schlickfrau that she's a woman who can get things done.Sweetheart...you don't know the half of it! She got things done with the cattle futures....with Vince Foster...with Webb Hubbell...with the billing records....with Johnny Chung....with Jorge Cabrera...with Craig Livingstone.You've hit the nail on the head,Cathy....Die Schlickfrau really does get things done.The unfortunate thing is,however,that she usually uses felonious methods in doing so!
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Message: A mistrial is not a victory - DIM WIT!!!! (and if it is a victory - it is a victory for Starr because some of the jurors were CERTAIN she was guilty!!!) - GET A FRICKEN CLUE!!!!!!
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Message: Gun owners have a deep-seated hatred for mankind. - whoever wrote this is a bigot!
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Message: America will always be threatened by an intelligent, articulate woman. - are all liberals as stupid as the person that wrote this ditty? DIM WIT!!! More than half of America is FEMALE (i.e. Woman).
Name: Witch Hazel
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Message: The second amendment was written in a new country that had NO STANDING ARMY.
Citizens were allowed to own rifles so that, in the event of a hostile attack,
they could be called up to form a defensive militia. If you read that amendment again, it
DOES NOT GUARANTEE THAT EVERY MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD can own dozens of pistols,
attack weapons, machine guns, automatics, you name it.
In addition to gun registration for all weapons in private hands, I'd like to
see every man who owns a gun take a written oath that he will be willing to
be called up in the militia when needed to fend off an attack of REAL ENEMIES.
The gun nuts are the guys who are paranoid and see enemies everywhere. The government
is the enemy, especially the federal govt. (a la Zippy) and anyone of a different
color, and perhaps everyone from a different state, county or city. The gun-happy
stockpile weapons to fend off their imaginary enemies and end up hurting or allowing to be hurt many
good citizens, women and children. Why should I, why should the rest of the country should be held
hostage by the paranoid schzitzophrenics? Why should I have to go through
security to go to work or to school? That's certainly the price we are all
paying for allowing paranoids to have guns.
Sure, we have crime. But we would have much less violent crime if nobody had
guns.
There is one elegant solution: make all ammunition illegal. Make it painfully
expensive to manufacture and sell bullets. License bullets for specific purposes,
such as hunting (such a disgusting habit) or sport shooting. Make everyone turn
in the excess bullets when finished with the designated activity.
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Message: 1.If you registered your gun you could NOT sell it to a felon, or a minor. - only if you choose not to break the law (and we all know NOBODY breaks that law - DIM WIT!). BTW - selling to a felon or a minor is now against the law so to do so NOW is to break the law so what good will one more law do? Make them illegal and all the gun problems will go away - hey, it worked for cocaine and heroin - NOT!!!!! DIM WIT!!!!!!!!
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3. If somebody got it and hurt somebody else you would be liable. - are all liberals stupid? Or just naïve as a new-born baby? What a dumb statement! So if someone breaks into my house and steals my gun I will get in trouble - GREAT THINKING LIBERALS! Punish the victim - GREAT IDEA!!!! I have a better idea - why don't we just execute everybody that registers Democrat, it makes about as much sense.
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5. Evil people who own guns could not use them at will as they do now because they could be traced. Liberals - mercifully spared the ravages of intelligence. How would they be "traced" - using the GUN-O-METER? Unless the evil person decided to LEAVE the gun at the site of the evil-doings - this in not very likely not to mention I seriously doubt an "evil" person would follow the law and register her gun (it would ruin her "evil" reputation).
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7. Criminals caught with an unregistered guns go to jail. Another way to keep crime rate down. - PLEASE, you are just pretending to be this naïve! Criminals caught with a gun ALREADY go to jail (whether the gun is registered or not!!!!). KEYWORD being "criminal"
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6. Countries who register their guns have a lower crime rate. Countries with lower population rates than the US have much lower crime rates (which brings me back to my plan to execute Democrats - see it is starting to make sense now!)
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You are comparing us with NAZI Germany. America is not Nazi Germany. We are a democracy. Tell that to the Davidians in Waco Texas (RIP - say a prayer for all the Children our democracy gassed and incinerated)
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Message: The British and the Japanese have strict gun laws. The Catholic Irish understand the "strict" British gun laws (it makes it easier to manage the "slaves")
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Never will own something that can be stolen from me and used to hurt, maim, or kill some other poor human being. Cmon - I guess you do not own a car, far more people are killed, hurt or maimed with cars than guns. Are liberals capable of "clear" thinking?
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If you read that amendment again, it DOES NOT GUARANTEE THAT EVERY MAN, WOMAN AND CHILD can own dozens of pistols, attack weapons, machine guns, automatics, you name it.
I read it and think you are completely wrong - exactly where does it delimit the right to bear arms? HINT - don't forget the meaning of punctuation when you read it!
In addition to gun registration for all weapons in private hands, I'd like to see every man who owns a gun take a written oath that he will be willing to be called up in the militia when needed to fend off an attack of REAL ENEMIES.
You are not a student of history - you do not understand what a militia is!! A militia is people CHOOSING what they want to fight for not being conscripted or mandated to fight by the government - your oath idea is ludicrous. The founders had a clear understanding the mentality of man (unlike modern liberals) - the founders knew a government will NEVER become excessively corrupt and totalitarian if there is an armed populous - THAT'S DA FACTS JACK!
The government is the enemy, especially the federal govt. (a la Zippy)
I got two words for you - WACO TEXAS, nuff said.
…to fend off their imaginary enemies
Tell that to the families of the imaginary dead people from the Long Island rail massacre - tell it to the imaginary dead people in Columbine High School - tell it the imaginary dead person named John Lennon - tell it to the imaginary dead from Waco and Ruby Ridge. Liberal the epitome of naivete - when laws are broken what should be do? make more laws of course!
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Message: Dear Mrs. Clinton, The world seems like it is coming to an unfriendly end. Since the news about the incident at Colorado High school, I get scared everytime I hear some one at the school that jokes or even talks about the matter. Then I get very angry at their ignorance of the matter at hand. Those students did not have the right to go and take innocent lives just because everyone else treated them bad and that they were against the world. I go to Armijo high school and I am a freshman. I got on this website by a project that my teacher issued today that I am suppoed to be working on. Well, I really have to go because my teacher is telling me to get off of the computer. Have a nice day!!! Bye!!!
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Gun owners have a deep-seated hatred for mankind.
Or a deep-seated understanding of mankind.
Sure, we have crime. But we would have much less violent crime if nobody
had guns.
And there would be no addicts if nobody had drugs. How can you not see
the idiocy of such a statement with regard to the real world?! It might work
on Fantasy Island but not here on Planet Earth. No matter how much you might wish
it were true there will never be a world where everyone is strong, wise and
moral. I admire my Liberal Friends for their imaginative thinking but I pity
them for their seeming inability to separate Reality from Fantasy.
I live in a small, rural town in the South. Crack is not only illegal but
has no legitimate use (as far as I know) and I can get it cheap, 24 hours a day,
7 days a week in "certain parts of town". Outlaw Guns. Go ahead. All that it will
accomplish is that they will become more plentiful and cheaper and millions
of otherwise law abiding citizens will instantly become criminals (Sound familiar?
Like the dope argument perhaps?)
And lastly, one word: Rwanda. Almost half a million people were slaughtered there in the
last few years (Although Clinton and our wonderful, honest, altruistic
government ignored that particular bit of
Ethnic Cleansing since it was "only blacks" that were dying and they
didn't have any oil or anything). How did the vast majority die?
They were killed with Machetes. Of course if all those machetes were
registered it would have been a different story.
The government is the enemy, especially the federal govt. (a la Zippy)...
And just who was it that declared an illegal war a couple of months ago on a
sovereign nation that never threatened any of it's neighbors?
Who was it that used NATO in violation of it's own charter to invade
that nation even though it had never threatened any NATO member?
Who is it that has been murdering Yugoslavians and destroying
their infrastructure just so that the American People can pay to rebuild it
after exhausting our limited military reserves?
And who was it that bombed the Chinese Embassy killing at least four innocent
civilians. Who killed those refugees on the bus? Who lies day after day
to us with the Media and laughs at us for being so stupid when the camera is off? Who has the power
over us? Who has demonstrated that they will keep that power at any cost? Who?
Government is not reason, nor eloquence. It is force. And like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearsome master.
Are you servant or master?
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Message: People don't kill people, guns do! Jerry Falwell is still a slightly overweight PIG! I just had to say that.
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Message: BEIJING (AP) -- China broke off military ties and other contacts with the United States on Monday and demanded those responsible for NATO's bombing of its embassy in Yugoslavia be ``severely'' punished. Thousands of protesters hurled rocks at the U.S. Embassy in Beijing for a third day, with some dragging and kicking a life-size effigy of a U.S. soldier with an American flag on his chest. ......... Oh my, do we get to punish Billy? That wouldn't be nice, Billy is a good person and we need to protect him from those who hate him!
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Trivia Question: Which Country has both, one of the lowest murder rates on Earth
and a law requiring that every head of household own and keep a
fully automatic assault rifle in their home?
I'm sorry all these people are getting killed but you Gun Control Nuts are
(pardon the expression) dead wrong on this one. Education and Enforcement
of the Law is the only way we can control the carnage. You love your kids?
Teach them to understand guns and the horrible results of their misuse.
(You should have seen my kid's face when he saw what a real gun did to a real
watermelon and I asked him to imagine if that had been one of his friends he'd
shot accidentally! He's shown no interest in guns since.) Teach them how to
kill and then teach them why not to.
Dammit! Strength and trust in your fellow man is far better than weakness and
distrust of him! Wake up! Fight back! Quit lying there waiting for your corrupt
government to save you from your neighbor! We outnumber the scum about 50 to 1.
They will lose if we will fight!
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Five years ago I'd have laughed this off as utter nonsense. Now, sadly,
I'm not so sure anymore...
Yugoslavia Says Refugees Are Actors
By Candice Hughes
Associated Press Writer
Monday, May 10, 1999; 4:35 p.m. EDT
Now, the Yugoslav government says those terrified women and children, exhausted and confused old men and women, and farmers and fathers clinging to the steering wheels of overburdened tractors are just actors.
The government laid out its claim Monday, outlining a NATO-directed, American-produced ``screenplay'' in which thousands of ethnic Albanians were paid to traipse in a vast circle beginning and ending in Kosovo.
This ``Wag the Dog'' scenario was laid out, complete with slides and videos, at a briefing by Goran Matic, minister without portfolio.
The Yugoslav government has long claimed NATO bombs and missiles, not its own police and paramilitary units, are to blame for the worst refugee crisis in Europe since World War II. But Matic went a step further, outlining what he called a ``big production'' that would do credit to Hollywood.
He said 3,000 to 4,000 ethnic Albanians were paid $5.50 each to act the parts of Kosovo refugees during the first 10 days of the NATO airstrikes on Yugoslavia.
They traveled to Macedonia, then on to Albania, then to the Yugoslav republic of Montenegro and then back to Kosovo province, marching in a circle so as to seem like vast numbers of people on the run, he said.
The ``main directors'' of this production, he said, were the U.S. government and the CIA, assisted by the media. Their motive was to carve up Serbia and take Kosovo province away, he said.
According to Matic, the production began to falter when the ``actors'' weren't paid and tried to go home. He claimed NATO created a real refugee crisis when it tried to deter them from returning by bombing refugee convoys, buses and trains heading back to Kosovo.
NATO's message, he said, was: ``We need empty spaces for our occupation troops.''
Matic illustrated his briefing with photos of burned and mangled bodies, twisted wreckage and a map entitled ``Albanians in Circles.''
Matic also disputed alliance estimates of the number of refugees -- now at 700,000 -- quoting Mark Twain as saying ``these are lies, damn lies and statistics.''
``Most of these estimates we have heard are somewhere between lies and statistics,'' he said, without offering any counter-estimates from his government.
He did, however, dispute the number of ethnic Albanians who lived in Kosovo before the conflict, shaving nearly a million people from the generally accepted number of 1.8 million, or about 90 percent of Kosovo's population.
The briefing also featured a video Matic said showed Serb police and soldiers helping dig injured ethnic Albanians from the rubble of a NATO attack.
``This is the only truth that exists in Kosovo,'' he said.
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Message: WASHINGTON, DC - Vice President Al Gore, inventor of the Internet, is hoping to make life more bearable for the Kosovar refugees by bringing his invention to their filth ridden, disease infested, camps. Gore told our BNN Washington correspondent, "Every time I see their dirty faces and crying children on the television I feel very sad. I was searching for a meaningful way to make their lives better when it dawned on me that the internet would be a good thing to give them." Gore plans to have 20,000 computers shipped to refugee camps as early as next week. Each computer will be hooked up to a T3 so that the Kosavars can have the best possible internet experience. Each refugee will also be given an email account, 100 free hours on America Online, and a credit card to pay for online shopping and access to porn sites. The plan has been dubbed "Operation Cyber Smile" and will be paid for through a special tax that Gore plans to collect from the phone bills of American citizens. Responding to criticism of the new phone bill tax Gore told BNN, "Something needed to be done to brighten the lives of these sad and oppressed people. Those who are complaining about the cost are selfish. Americans should be proud that I have given them an opportunity to make a difference in the lives of the Kosavar refugees."
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Message: I think Hillary is just wonderful. I really believe that if she wanted to run for President, she could give Liddy Dole a real run for her money. As a man who enjoys an alternative lifestyle, I think she is by far the best person for the job. Please feel free to put me on your listserv. Thanks. Craig
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Message: 以美为首的北约轰炸中国使馆是蓄意所为,这是一篇分析文章(英文)! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- How could the bombing of the Chinese embassy have been a mistake? By Mike Head 10 May 1999 After two days of varied official accounts, the least credible explanation for Friday night's NATO bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade is that it was a pure accident. On Sunday, a US official in Washington told news agencies that the CIA had simply supplied inaccurate information, wrongly identifying the embassy as a Yugoslav weapons warehouse. It was the fourth version of events produced within several hours. Initially NATO's spokesman Jamie Shea told reporters on Saturday that NATO pilots had mistaken the building for a legitimate military target and then hit it with precision-guided weapons. But several hours later, at possibly the most hostile NATO news briefing in Brussels since the bombing began, Major General Walter Jertz said the error had been made in the initial target selection process. Jertz said the embassy had been mistaken for the Yugoslav Directorate of Supply and Procurement, a military supply facility. When pressed, he said there was no evidence that NATO maps were inaccurate or out of date, neither was there any evidence that NATO intelligence was inaccurate. Asked if NATO knew where embassies were located in Belgrade, he replied: "Yes, of course we know where the embassies are." Shea then switched his story, saying a "review of procedures" had identified a "mistake" in the target selection process. He quoted a joint statement issued at midnight Saturday US time by US Defence Secretary William Cohen and CIA Director George Tenet, which exonerated the pilots and NATO equipment. "The extensive process in place to select and validate targets did not correct the original error," the statement said. Finally came the claim of CIA culpability. Another unnamed US official referred to "stale information" as the source of the error. It is virtually impossible to give any credence to these accounts. The Chinese embassy has been housed at its present location for four years. Its site was clearly marked on tourist maps that are on sale internationally, including in the English language. The embassy was well known to many journalists, diplomats and other visitors to Belgrade. Its address is listed in the Belgrade telephone directory. For the CIA to have made such an elementary blunder is simply not plausible. Apart from publicly-available maps, US intelligence agencies have access to satellite reconnaissance and other high-technology surveillance, for which some $29 billion is budgetted annually. Furthermore, one is meant to believe that such an error went unchecked through an exhaustive target selection, verification and authorisation process. Published accounts indicate that targets are largely identified by the US military, sometimes using information supplied by the CIA as part of its validation process. Targets are nominated at the Aviano airforce base in Italy, verified at NATO headquarters in Belgium, designated on lists sent to the Pentagon for confirmation and then sent to Washington and other NATO capitals for authorisation. By some reports, US resident Clinton personally approves targets in Belgrade. Numerous military experts have told Western news outlets that the CIA could not have been the sole source of target information. Robert Gaskin, a US air force officer who helped select targets during the 1990-91 Gulf War, told the Los Angeles Times: "We would always make sure we had at least two sources of information on the targets. You can't afford to make a mistake like this." Other sources said planning each target involves dozens of officers in Europe and the US who collect intelligence, calculate the risk of civilian casualties, decide which munitions to use and mark the Designated Mean Point of Impact (DMPI) where the bomb would do the most damage. Moreover, if the attack on the embassy were a "tragic mistake" as Clinton and other NATO leaders insisted, one would expect at least a pause in the bombing or even a narrowing of targets to ensure that the error was not repeated. More so, perhaps, because the embassy tragedy was the latest in a strong of supposed "collateral damage" incidents, including the dropping of cluster bombs that killed more than a dozen people at a hospital and market in Nis on Friday. Instead, the bombing of Belgrade and other major Yugoslav cities reached a new intensity on Saturday and Sunday nights. NATO jets hit targets in Kragujevac, wounding 13 people in the city 100 km south of Belgrade, targetted a railway station near Kraljevo in central Serbia, fired two missiles at the main highway between Belgrade and Nis, and attacked another bridge over the Danube in downtown Nis. One aspect of the official accounts of the embassy bombing has remained unexplained. If the embassy building were indeed mistaken for the Directorate of Supply and Procurement, why was it only selected as a target last Friday, in the seventh week of NATO's air assault? If it were an identifiable military target why had it not already been hit during one of the 18,000 bombing missions against Yugoslavia? The question has to be asked: given that the targetting was almost certainly deliberate, why was the embassy bombed? It came just days after the G8 foreign ministers summit had produced a draft agreement ostensibly aimed at cutting short the war, and amid intensive activity by the German and Russian administrations to fashion a deal that could be concluded with the Milosevic government. An agreement based on the G8 model was due to be put to the UN Security Council, where China holds a veto vote. Just a day after the bombing, one US newspaper, the Philadelphia Inquirer, published a report that Pentagon planners feared that the Clinton administration was so eager to settle the Yugoslav war that it may accept a "dangerously flawed deal". The newspaper's Washington bureau cited anonymous Pentagon officials expressing concern about the inclusion of non-NATO forces in an international force for Kosovo and restrictions on heavy US weaponry in such a force. It also quoted unidentified White House officials predicting that an acceptable deal would be worked out between Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic and Russian envoy Viktor Chernomyrdin. The bombing directly cut across such efforts. Russian President Boris Yeltsin denounced it as a "barbarous and inhuman act" and ordered Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov to cancel a trip to London for negotiations. Chernomyrdin noted that the bombing "does not help the conflict settlement and may weaken the negotiating process," but proceeded to meet German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder and newly-appointed UN representative Carl Bildt in Bonn. Beijing's embassy was also hit at a time of heightening Sino-American tensions, fuelled in part by belated intelligence claims that a Chinese spy obtained US nuclear secrets. China is in the final throes of applying for membership of the World Trade Organisation, despite concerted Washington criticism in recent months over threats to Taiwan, the jailing of political dissidents and a widening trade gap. For their part, Chinese officials accused the US of striking the embassy to punish China for representing Yugoslav diplomatic interests in Washington. Whatever the precise motivation, the attack was certainly designed to send a blunt message to China: the devastation being wreaked upon Yugoslavia can be applied to China or any other country that obstructs US economic and military policy. While everything points to a pre-meditated attack on the embassy, it is also conceivable that President Clinton personally had no knowledge of the plan. Given the Byzantine nature of the struggles between the White House, the Pentagon, the CIA and other elements within the US political and military establishment, it is quite possible that the bombing was designed to embarrass the Clinton administration, escalate the war and pursue an even more militarist agenda. Sections of the military have hardly disguised their loathing for Clinton. Key factions within the ruling elite have demanded a far more unilateral US military and diplomatic policy, and were prepared to remove Clinton by impeachment to achieve it. Of one thing there is no doubt: the most reckless and aggressive elements are exercising enormous influence over American foreign policy, with incalculable consequences for world affairs. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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People don't kill people, guns do! Jerry Falwell is still a slightly overweight PIG! I just had to say that.
So David how does this work? Does the gun sprout little legs and run within range of the victim and sprout a little finger that pulls its trigger. Lets work with David "logic" - People don't commute to work - CARS DO (that will let us off the hook on those environmental issues). People don't punch other people in the mouth - FISTS DO! (and a fist has no brain or conscience so it can not be held liable). THANKS DAVID, with your logic we can get away with anything! Presidents don't commit adulatory or receive blowjobs from Interns half their age - penises do! (and a penis has no brain or conscience so it can be held responsible).
Well - Jerry Falwell is an internationally respected guy that is on TV about every night and you are (likely) just a overweight person living in a double-wide and sets in his/her/shim's underwear with the lights off typing liberal rantings on web forums passing judgement of people you do not even know (who is the BIGGER pig?).
Party on David (Don't bogart that joint liberals - not that I would partake of the wild wood weed or anything - hey, People don't smoke pot, lungs do! - pass that doobie my way) (NOTE: the drug use references were purely rhetorical to express a point and should not be construed as implying or endorsing actual drug use - objects in mirror are closer than they appear)
-LVD
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That was great!
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Trivia Question: Which Country has both, one of the lowest murder rates on Earth and a law requiring that every head of household own and keep a fully automatic assault rifle in their home?
Zippy - What is Israel?
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Trivia Question: Which Country has both, one of the lowest murder rates on
Earth and a law requiring that every head of household own and keep a fully
automatic assault rifle in their home?
LVD: What is Israel?
Bzzzzzz No, I'm sorry LVD. That answer is incorrect. Too many terrorists in that
neighborhood blowing up too many Israelis. Good try though.
The correct answer is: "What is Switzerland?" (No, I'd never have guessed
that either. I suppose the Germans made them a bit nervous over the last
century or so.)
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Kind of wierd. I just noticed that the last time we were thrown into a World
War it was because of the NAZI party. This
time it will be because of the NATO party.
What the heck is up with that? (Any other examples folks?)
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Severin: Conspiracy theory - Was it really an accidental bombing?
MSNBC.com
May 11 — The bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade may not have been a
mistake at all. Let me explain: Now that our effort in Yugoslavia has hit
foreign embassies and diplomats as well as civilians, it’s time for new some
questions.
THE FIRST QUESTION is this: "What’s the worst thing China can do to us for
bombing their building and killing their people?" The answer is very different
today than it was before Bill Clinton was president.
Prior to buying and possibly stealing some of our most sensitive nuclear
defense secrets, all China could do was bluster. But this is a new day.
Now China may be able to build, test, target, and launch nuclear strikes
against U.S. cities with accuracy they never dreamed of having until the
middle of the next century. Now that’s progress.
And it does look like the Chinese are pretty angry with us. So angry, they
probably won’t be speaking to us for quite a while — especially about
controversial matters, such as spying and nuclear secrets. In fact, the
Chinese have just announced they have suspended discussions on these very
issues.
ON CLINTON’S WATCH
How very convenient for the Clinton administration. The last thing Bill
Clinton wants is an American public actually aware that China may pose
greater danger to us than the former Soviet Union ever did, and that they
acquired their dangerous capability on Clinton’s watch.
Enter the Cox report. Waiting in the wings is a bipartisan Congressional
document, named for California Republican Rep. Chris Cox, chair of a select
committee charged with examining transfer of sensitive U.S. technology to
China. The still-classified report is said to reveal that China has had
access not only sensitive missile and satellite technology via its business
dealings with Space Systems, Loral and the Hughes Corp., but also to vital
military secrets.
Clinton asserted some weeks ago that nobody in his administration ever told
him espionage was even suspected. But on "Meet the Press" Sunday, Energy
Secretary Bill Richardson, addressing another suspected breach of national
security at Los Alamos nuclear labs, said that is exactly what had occurred
"during the current administration."
And here is where the bombing of the Chinese embassy comes in. Most of us
have no trouble believing that the United States is performing awkwardly
and ineptly in this war. But perhaps we are not quite that incompetent.
Is it possible we could have bombed China’s embassy intentionally, to create
a pretext for our inability to ask them about devastating allegations
anticipated in the Cox report? "Gee, we would love to ask the Chinese about
this, really we would, but they’re not speaking to us. What can you do?"
In such a scenario, would Clinton really risk provoking such a powerful
adversary to cover himself politically? The not-so-obvious answer is: The
Chinese knew and gave their permission. They also want a pretext to refuse
to answer such questions.
Paranoid? Perhaps. But entirely plausible. In order to dismiss my suspicion,
you must refute my beliefs that:
What's so damn scary is, with Clinton, he could actually
be right. God, I miss Ronald Reagan...
May 11, 1999 Jay Severin
Jay Severin hosts a talk show on WRKO Radio in Boston. He is a campaign consultant for conservative causes and is a regular contributor to MSNBC on the Internet.
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NATO party?
Where?
When?
BYOBombs?
Name: David M. Simons
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Message: Jerry Falwell is an intolerant, slightly overweight Pig. I can't out run a bullet so therefore guns kill people. The Brady's and Clinton's have the right idea in dealing with you right wing dogmatic types and your "principles." It isn't 1776 anymore, time to change with the times and accept diversity and reject hate.
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Billy & Hilly,1999
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CHINA: YOU'LL PAY US BACK WITH POLICY CHANGES
China expects the U.S. to make significant concessions on sensitive
military, trade and diplomatic issues as payback for last weekend's NATO
bombing of China's embassy in Belgrade, the FINANCIAL TIMES is reporting on
Wednesday.
China is seeking conciliatory measures from the U.S., including dismissing
allegations that a Chinese spy passed U.S. nuclear secrets to China.
FT reporters James Harding and Steven Fidler quote a senior foreign policy
advisor to Chinese President Jiang Zemin: "It is now up to the U.S... to
take the initiative to get the relationship back to normal."
The paper outlines the said conditions. Just as...
INVESTIGATORS SUSPECT CHINA MOVED TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THROUGH U.S.
BANK TO PAY FOR SPYING OPERATIONS
The NY TIMES breaks with a fresh Page One of its own on Wednesday: Tens of
millions of dollars have flowed from China into a small American bank -- and
U.S. investigators suspect that it to pay for spying operations!
MORE...
The TIMES' Jeff Gerth keeps up the pace -- a pace he alone has set, sans
Bill Gertz at the WASH TIMES -- with an exclusive built on confidential
Government documents and interviews.
Late in the spring of 1996, federal bank examiners discovered that the
central bank of China moved more than $92 million into the United States,
depositing it in a maze of accounts controlled by a fast-rising Chinese
executive at a small California bank, Gerth and TIMES Tim Golden reveal.
"The purpose of the money remains a mystery. Some federal officials now
suspect that it might have been intended to pay for Chinese intelligence
operations. Others believe that it could have been amassed for political
contributions or to purchase sensitive military technology."
Developing hot.
Filed by Matt Drudge in Key Largo...
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Bill will go down as the most corrupt president ever.
Bill and his administration will go down as the most scandalous and corrupt group ever.
Hillary will go down as the most corrupt and power hungry Socialist ever.
And the Liberals will still be calling Conservatives names and blaming Ken Starr.
This is the greatest country in the world because we have LVD to kick around.
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REPEAL THE 2ND AMENDMENT!
Got a better idea; Let's repeal the First Ammendment. Then the Government can
do whatever they want and keep anyone from reporting it... oh wait, we're
too late. They already do that by threatening the large corporations that own
the Media. Dang.
Wake up people. A disarmed, uninformed and uneducated population is a prerequisite for
an invasion by the "New World Order" types. Get ready for Uncle Sam to become
Massa' Sam. I guess we'll just have to "change with the times", huh David?
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I can't out run a bullet so therefore guns kill people.
David you are not thinking too clearly - read your statement. Wouldn't that be "bullets kill people"? Actually a bullet setting on a table can not kill anybody - it is the speed of the bullet that kills so your cliché should be "speed kills". Actually it is not the speed of the bullet that kills because if you were traveling as fast as the bullet nothing would happen - it is the sudden stop in your flesh that kills so your cliché should be "Sudden stops kill people".
-LVD
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It isn't 1776 anymore, time to change with the times and accept diversity and reject hate.
If they passed a law banning meaningless clichés and empty rhetoric - would the liberals be able to say anything?
-LVD
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right wing dogmatic types
What exactly is this "label" supposed to mean? Talk about loaded "hate speech" this cat David is on a roll. What exactly is a dogmatic type? Anybody that believes in the constitution? Sorry Comrade David, the US of A is not ready for you type of "people's revolution" - the majority does not want to throw out the constitution (like you seemingly do). If you want to call the constitution dogma - so be it - but if or your comrades try to throw away our constitution you may get a chance to see if you really can or can not out run a bullet. Some things ARE worth fighting for.
-LVD
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We have LVD to kick around. Listen to him he may be right or wrong but he is entitled to his opinion.
Jeepers Bugs - I am so happy I got YOUR approval to excise my constitutional right of free speech I was so worried I would not get your "blessing". Jeepers, you liberals are full of angst and hostility - why do you liberals find it necessary to have someone to "kick" around? Kick away - "I've had worse" (quoted from the Black Knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail)
-LVD
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This is the greatest country in the world because we have LVD to kick around.
I am so pleased that I can be personally instrumental in orchestrating people's love for this country - it makes me feel my life's work was not done in vain. I had no idea I touched so many people's lives...
-LVD
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"it makes me feel my life's work was not done in vain."
What makes you think your life's work is done?
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Message: "The British and the Japanese have strict gun laws." - The British are oppressing Ireland worse than China with Taiwan. They also have a parliment and King and Queen. Following one of there gun control lives is not going to change the number of murders, just the weapon of choice. The Littleton brats would have made a couple cow manure bombs and actually blown up the school. I don't know much about Japan but I don't think they are a democracy. I think they have an emporer and woman are 5th class citizens still. Can't you come up with other countrys that ban guns that actually resemble the United States? Oh, I know, China. Bill is equivalent to the Chinese Emporer, the democrats are the communist party, the big 3 networks, Rupert Murdoch, and Ted Turner are the DNCs personal government controlled media. The FBI and ATF are the "peoples police".
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"it makes me feel my life's work was not done in vain."
Make that - "it makes me fee my life's work is not being done in vain"
-LVD
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-LVD
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Yeah baby, we had to have extra big reciept forms printed up just so we could fit all them zeros on there! And now that we blew up their embassy we can all pretend we can't talk about that espionage stuff! I love America! Where else could you find so many people with so much to lose and barely a whole brain (or testicle) between them!
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Message: My Dearest Hillary I keep reading in the newspaper about your possible plans to run for the United States Senate and I'm very disappointed!!! Why would you not consider coming back to Arkansas and running for the U.S Senate. Afterall, you lived here for a great many years of your life and who would know you better than the people of Arkansas....Certainly not the citizens of New York. I'm sure you have a good reason for not coming back to Arkansas and honoring us with a bid for the Senate...But I can't think of what that reason might be... Can you or can any of the readers of this message???....think about it???... If she is not running here because she couldn't get the votes the I guess the question is "Why couldn't she get the votes?"
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There is now way in hell I would degrade myself to represent a pack of low-life, uneducated, disgusting, red-neck hillbillies from Arkansas.
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Message: We are evolving past the old archaic principles of "traditional" behavior and coming to accept the diversity in our cultures. There is no longer any morally superior culture to strive for, we must accept the diversity that is on spaceship earth. Instead of looking as Communist China as our enemy, we should embrace them as our friends. You need to recognize that Hillary wants what is best for the World. You need to step out of your comfort zone of white europeein male traditionalism and evolve to the higher level of conciousness that Hillary and we have achieved.
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Message: Right on brother. Spaceship earth needs more people following Hillary and less following that PIG - Jerry Falwell. Hillary is obviously more TOLERANT than Jerry Pigwell, er I mean Falwell. Do you think Mrs. Falwell would ever be as tolerant as Hillary? Hells bells NO. Run Hillary, I will volunteer.
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(I don't think even you believe that guano)
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"that PIG", "Pigwell"
Ye shall know them by thier fruits...
(so to speak)(or was it "that they are fruits", I can't remember)
Yeah, you liberal are tolerant - yeah, that's the ticket!
(pathetic)
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Well, it's been a while since I did this so please bear with me...
We are evolving past the old archaic principles of "traditional" behavior and
coming to accept the diversity in our cultures.
Aside from being redundant (old archaic) and so cliche that it
actually hurts to read it, this statement is just plain silly. If we can't
base our future actions on our past experiences what in God's name do we
base them on?! Diversity is fine but radical, even polar differences can
hardly be called "diversity". Someone who is convinced that abortion is murder
can not go along with it in the name of "diversity" (and vise versa I
might add). From this, and similar statements, I'm beginning to doubt Mr.
Simons ability to generate an original thought. But I digress...
There is no longer any morally superior culture to strive for, we must accept
the diversity that is on spaceship earth.
I gather from this statement that Mr. Simons is of the
opinion that we no longer have the ability (or perhaps, permission) to
strive for a greater morality and must settle for the morality of the
majority. Evolution of the human species is over? I sincerely hope I have
misinterpreted this statement.
Instead of looking as Communist China as our enemy, we
should embrace them as our friends.
It is painfully obvious that Mr. Simons is neither
Tibetan or Taiwanese (or a history buff for that matter).
You need to recognize that Hillary wants what is best for the World.
So long as She and Bill remain in charge of that world.
You need to step out of your comfort zone of
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that Hillary and we have achieved.
Is it this "higher level of consciousness" that allows
them to start more military actions during their 7 years in power than in the
50 years prior? (That is a fact. Check it.) Is it this "higher level of
consciousness" that allows Bill to swear a solemn oath to remain faithful
to Hillary and then screw everything in sight? Is it this "higher level of
consciousness" that enables Hillary to claim that she turned a $1000.00
"investment" in cattle futures into $100,000.00 in weeks with a straight face?
Is it this "higher level of consciousness" that allows Bill Clinton (with the
aid of NATO) to invade a sovereign nation that had threatened none of it's
neighbors and demand that part of that nation be allowed to secede? (Please
note here that NATO actually violated their own charter by doing so and that
this sets a precedent that will allow them to invade any country that they
feel could be governed better. I wonder who's next?)
Is it this "higher level of consciousness" that makes them certain that
they know better how to run our lives and spend our money than we do?
Is it this "higher level of consciousness" that allows Bill and Hillary Clinton
to condemn the Vietnam War but start another, nearly identical war thirty
years later? Is it this "higher level of consciousness" that allows Bill and Hillary Clinton
to condemn Richard Nixon for "lying to the American People" and thirty
years later prove that they have a heretofore unimagined capacity to do
likewise? If indeed this is your idea of a "higher level of consciousness", I for one want
no part of it.
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Message: It seems the rich bank lobbyists are getting away with MURDER. They want to do with the scrap the regulations that separate Wall Street investment houses like Merrill Lynch types being bought out by Big Banks. Holy Depression! the Glass Seagal Act is being destroyed (A law that forbids Banks from selling stocks and bonds, and selling new issues of stocks to unsophisicated investors). Heaven help us Congress has opened the pandoras box. These Congress people are lunatics and are the same bastards who gave us high prescription prices and deregulated the cable companies thus giving us high cable prices and the like. They are highly paid off by big Banks to run for office and also get free medical care. They are mostly the Repooblicans The big bad boys of elected officials. The Congress even fixed the bankruptcy laws so that the little guy pays thru his nose while the rich ones gets away with theivery. Wake up all Americans, our country is in great danger In 2000, 2002 and 2004 Vote for the Democrats. Make a stand for Democracy not Corporatcy. Democrats, who may fool around but dont hurt the average citizen.
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Message: Damn those cable companies for screwing us over, it's time for cable companies to come under Federal regulation. That will lower cable costs for sure! If the Govt. weren't regulating the drug companies, drugs would be even higher than they are now. We need price controls to protect us from the Rebooblicans!
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Message: We do have price controls against Republicans, It is called kick the rascals out on the First Tue in November 2000 election and give some new younger politicians a chance. Strom Thurmond is so old his Geritol spoiled and Orville hatch saw the other Orville when he flew at Kitty Hawk, NC for the very first time. Vote for the Democrats in the year 2000, 2002, and 2004.
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Bugs! Can't find any reference to the "Glass Seagal Act" anywhere on the net.
Where can I read about it?
I find it funny that you refer to the Majority Party as the "The big bad boys
of elected officials" as they have had only six years to have "fixed the bankruptcy
laws so that the little guy pays thru his nose while the rich ones gets away
with theivery". I trust neither party. Where can I read about this crime against
America? Hmmmmm.....?
P.S. Just for fun, what's your take on this illegal war on the sovereign
nation of Yugoslavia?
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Are you two an "Item"?
Are you both HIV positive?
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ANN COULTER: 'Stockpile Now: Total Eclipse Of All Values Coming'
Human Events
Two teenaged boys decided to commit murder for the thrill of it -- "Just to see what it
would be like." Until committing their carefully-planned murder, they were not unlike
millions of other boys across America, except perhaps that they wanted for nothing.
They were not the boys who shot up Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado a week
ago. They were Nathan Leopold and Richard Loeb who murdered 14-year old Bobbie Franks
in Chicago in 1924.
Legendary lawyer Clarence Darrow (trained at University of Michigan law school) saved
Leopold and Loeb from the hangman by arguing that they had been unduly influenced by a
philosophy book -- Nietzsche and his superman myth. In his famous closing argument,
Darrow said, "Your Honor, it is hardly fair to hang a nineteen-year-old boy for the
philosophy that was taught him at the university." (Darrow never received a degree from
Michigan law school.)
If anything, Leopold and Loeb had not absorbed enough Nietzsche.
When Nietzsche famously said, "God is dead," he was not exulting nor was he stating a
preference (though he was an atheist). He was making an observation and a dire
prediction. With belief in God all but gone from the intellectual classes, Nietzsche
prophesied that people would soon begin to replace a faith in God with faith in
governments -- "barbaric nationalistic brotherhoods," he called them. As a result, he
said, bloody and catastrophic wars would dominate the 20th century. He wrote this in
1888.
Two hundred million people murdered by governments, or "barbaric nationalistic
brotherhoods," later -- and Nietzsche is looking pretty prescient.
In the 111 years since Nietzsche made his famous prediction, the world has witnessed
Stalin, Mao, Hitler, and Pol Pot, to name a few world leaders, murdering their own
people in the name of communism and fascism (a piker by comparison).
In January 1943, Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto staged the first armed resistance to one
such barbaric nationalistic brotherhood. With only ten pistols they held off the Nazi
exterminators for 3 months. Unable to take the Jews by force, the Nazis eventually had
to burn the ghetto down, house by house. Joseph Goebbels later wrote of the Warsaw
Ghetto uprising, "This just shows what you can expect from Jews if they lay hands on
weapons."
At least one of the great governments in the twentieth century cannot count its
government murdered citizens in the millions. That was the government founded on a
belief that God was not dead, and indeed on a belief in human freedom endowed by God.
That was the government that was designed never to resemble the "military
establishments in the several kingdoms of Europe" because this government was not
"afraid to trust the people with arms," as James Madison wrote in Federalist 46.
That is also the government now led by a man who openly and repeatedly violates his
oath to God -- usually, at least with Monica, on the Sabbath; the cigar incident took
place on Easter Sunday. A man with behavior patterns that could only be sustained by an
deep felt and abiding belief that God is, in fact, dead. (AT LEAST ANY GOD OTHER THAN
HIMSELF: LIKE POL POT, CLINTON SEEMS TO THINK HIMSELF A SAINT.) And now he wants to
take our guns away.
Interestingly, all the citizens murdered recently by the United States government have
been murdered for alleged violations of the gun laws. (And it murder committed by
government agents at Ruby Ridge and Waco.)
But the government doesn’t like competition in murder. No one talked about new
restrictions on the government’s firepower after it killed 85 people in Waco, Texas.
Fifteen dead in Littleton, Colorado, (killed by a non-governmental force) and the
government sees an urgent need to limit the ability of citizens to buy guns.
There are two recurring characteristics to the demand for new restrictions on guns
after every sensational murder (committed by someone who was not working for the
government at the time).
First, there is always the incomprehensible suggestion that this -- at last -- will
change people’s minds about gun control. As Rosie O’Donnell said of the Littleton
shootings, "Enough is enough." It’s as if they’re expecting gun-lovers to respond with
something like --
No, it is precisely because guns can be used to kill people that we love them. It’s
nice that guns can kill deer and ducks and wild boar, but that’s incidental. The reason
we have a constitutional right to be armed is not because the framers really loved
duck-hunting. The reason we have a right to bear arms is to protect ourselves from a
tyrannical government. the Twentieth Century.
Second, the specific gun restrictions proposed after every shocking crime, invariably
would have done nothing to prevent the shocking crime in the first place. For example,
President Clinton’s three proposals in response to the Littleton shooting would require
1) background checks for those who buy explosives (the killers in Littleton had only
one minor juvenile offense on their records); 2) raising the legal age for handgun
purchases to 21 (the killers apparently did not purchase the guns themselves); and 3) a
limit on handgun purchases to one per person per month (the young killers had been
planning their attack for almost a year).
Moreover, I haven’t reviewed the Colorado criminal code lately, but I’m almost certain
it was against the law for young Leopold and Loeb to shoot up their classmates and try
to blow up the school. It would be precisely as logical a response to the Littleton
shooting to pass a new law that would expressly prohibit blowing up your high school on
Tuesdays, as it is to pass even theoretically relevant gun laws -- which Clinton’s
proposals aren’t. Someone who is willing to violate the laws against murder isn’t the
sort who will be thwarted by laws against buying more than one handgun per month.
People murder children for thrills because there is evil in the world. It’s not -- as I
have seen variously claimed -- guns, divorce, bad parenting, bad counsellors, sexual
abuse, "Goth" music, TV shows that "romanticize and glorify violence" (as the first
lady suggested), computer games, or Nietzsche. Not that I’m broken up about Hollywood
taking some of the blame this time rather than Ruger. Burberrys better watch out, too.
It’s not even, I’m loathe to report, President Clinton (as the State-run Serb
television claimed, explaining that his policies showed that "America solves problems
by force.") Being a satanic little creep may be a symptom of evil, but symptoms aren’t
causes. Evil is the cause, and there’s more evil in a society in which the elites
believe God is dead.
The real danger in a world in which God is dead isn’t from the random satanic little
creeps. It is from the institutionalized mass murder of the kind only a government can
pull off.
Consider that Nietzsche’s prediction for the 20th century was cheerful and rosy
compared to what he had to say about the 21st. The twentieth century would at least
have a residual moral capital of the 19th century to carry it along. By the 21st,
Nietzsche said, even that would be gone. In the next century -- the one right around
the corner -- he predicted "the total eclipse of all values."
It should give pause that the guy who is constantly yapping about building a bridge to
that century wants to take away our guns.
May 8, 1999Ann Coulter
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Message: Hillary Clinton, As I watch on T.V. the chaos that is going on in Kosovo and cannot but feel sorry for the refuges. They are leaving the home land which they only knew of for years and now they must go some where new and different. War is not a pretty thing but I do understand why we are fighting. I do hope this WAR will come to an end soon so all people all over the world can live in peace. Tansy E. Tronocoso
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Message: I am guessing that you are very young.
You just don't get it. You just don't understand. But that is okay. Since you truly don't understand what you are saying, you will someday, as gain experience.
You must open your eyes.
You must open your mind.
You must know that only you can make a difference, both within and without.
We must all be free to shape the future.
Truly free from the cloud of the masses.
Free to see and know the truth.
Let yourselves go from the grip of tyranny brought by the Hillonites.
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Message: Hi Bill Clinton and NeoNazis, you guys just want to complete destroy that small country of Yugoslavia, that is evil. Use kosovo refugees as excuse to destroy small poor country is evil To destroy the country of Yugoslavia and their people and blaming because Albania refugees is evil too. Clinton you blaming Star Like Nato Blaming Milosevic.
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"WHY DOESN'T DIE SCHLICFRAU RUN IN ARKANSAS RATHER THAN IN NY....OR NJ?"
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Message: RE: Kosovar refugees Where can I find information about basic Kosovar culture/ lifestyle? I cannot imagine being in a country where I don't speak the language, having lost close relatives, having seen my house destroyed, having nothing but my clothes, and now starting over in a low income apartment with only donated discards. Our community has sponsored some Kosovar refugees, and many volunteers are helping. But we can't even say hello to them in their own language. What are they used to? What kind of food would be nice once in a while? Are they offended that the donated women's clothes have short sleeves? Are they used to baking their own bread? When do they usually eat? What is impolite, in their eyes? I know they need to learn American culture, but as an imigrant twice in foreign countries, I know a little sensitivity makes the transition easier. HELP. I'm sure many people would like information about the new arrivals. Where can we find out? Thanks.
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Message: Ok, what is going on? I can't post on this forum, but I can post on the one before, Before that, I couldn't post, but I could post before that. Does someone have me on a every other forum schedule? Because that is despicable and insiduous, and highly uncalled for. (PS - I can always find a workaround.)
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