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As NATO strikes, Serbs crack down
New attack wave begins; ethnic Albanians claim Serbs executed 20 men
March 26— NATO began a third wave of airstrikes Friday, well aware that the
strikes were encouraging Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic to
unleash an even tougher crackdown on ethnic Albanians. Refugees claimed
that in one incident 20 ethnic Albanians, some of them teachers, were executed Thursday.
MORE...MNSBC
Name: INTERFAX
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Message: RUSSIAN BOMBERS MAY BE MOVED TO BELARUS
MOSCOW, March 26 (Interfax) The Russian Defense Ministry is studying the feasibility of moving Tu-23MZ tactical bombers and Tu-95MS strategic bombers to Belarus, sources in the ministry told Interfax on Friday.
The possible deployment of bombers in Belarus is a response to the Balkan situation, they say.
The aircraft are operated by the Russian air force and navy. When and if the aircraft will be flown to Belarus will depend on developments in the Balkans.
Name: from The Washington Post
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Message:
The forewoman of the grand jury that investigated President Clinton's dealings with Monica Lewenski said yesterday she would have voted to indict the president for perjury even though "I absolutely love him."
Name: Just a few of life's little ironies
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Message: Thirty years ago, Bill Clinton dodged the draft like the cowardly traitor he is protesting our involvement in the civil war of Viet Nam. He even went to the Soviet Union and organized protest marches aiding the enemy.
Now Bill Clinton wages war against a sovereign country, meddling in their civil war with no clear cut goals asking that the U.S. get involved in a quagmire with no end in sight. Now those same Russians he played with in the 60's are on the opposite side of Clinton as Clinton sends U.S. troops in to do a job that the Coward who habitates the White House would never do himself.
Name: Susan
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Message:
You don't understand.
You take quotes out of context.
You don't know what really happened.
These people know the truth and what this is all about:
Name: Graduated High School
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Message: "Coward" is too harsh for the Hillary forum. We need to use euphamism's like "integrity challenged" or "ethically dysfunctional" or just make up words that give it the "warm fuzzy" edge to it.
Name: to Susan
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Message: Gee! Now you're accusing people of taking you out of context. I guess you're refering to the quote where you say about the Whitewater prosecutors "I hate them, I want them dead, I want their children dead"
Please feel free to enlighten this board with the full richness of the events that led to this statement.
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LITTLE ROCK, March 24 – James B. McDougal urged his ex-wife Susan to say she had a sexual affair with Bill Clinton so that independent counsel Kenneth W. Starr could use the information against the president before the 1996 election, Susan McDougal testified today.
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LITTLE ROCK, March 23 – Susan McDougal broke her long and stubborn silence today, taking the witness stand for the first time to say she knew of no shady financial dealings by President Clinton and "did not hear anything untruthful" when he testified at her 1996 trial.
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Susan McDougal has spent 18 months in prison, but not for the crime she was convicted of in 1996. A key figure in independent counsel Kenneth W. Starr's long investigation of President Clinton, McDougal was imprisoned for an act of defiance--refusing to testify before the grand jury investigating Clinton's role in a failed real estate deal.
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LITTLE ROCK, March 18 – Kenneth W. Starr's deputy testified today that
he had questioned the truthfulness of President Clinton and the first lady
inside the prosecutor's office and had even drafted an indictment of Hillary Rodham Clinton.
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Name: Graduated High School
email: can't we all just get along.
Message: "Your soul is evil and we will delete your messages for impersonating the "Susan" moniker." . . . Whoa! Rather JUDGEMENTAL!!! Editors are authorities on evil souls, that's what happens when you worship Bill-Hill-Susan-Hubbell-etc.
Name: Betty Boop
email: Betty@BoopOopADoop.com
Message:
The Editor said:
Now you are going one step further and accusing us of being "EVIL" because we deleted your post with an untruthful moniker.
Why not just delete the moniker - you have a history of partial deletion. The text of the message was factual - are you trying to censor the truth?
"If one is not fair to all parties - one can not be considered fair at all"
Betty Boop
Hollywood, CA
Betty@BoopOopADoop.com
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BELGRADE, March 26 (AFP) - Three NATO aircraft were reported to have been shot down over Serbia Thursday on the second day of NATO air strikes launched to pressure Belgrade into signing a peace deal for Kosovo.However a NATO military spokesman at the allied forces' headquarters at Mons in southern Belgium, early Friday denied any planes were lost.
The official Yugoslav news agency Tanjug, quoting a local radio station said two aircraft were downed at about 09:00 p.m. (2000 GMT) over Mount Fruska Gora 65 kilometres (40 miles) north of Belgrade.
It quoted information put out by radio-M based in Sremska Mitrovica, a town some 50 kilometres (35 miles) west of the capital.
It said the two aircraft, whose type was not specified, had entered Yugoslav airspace from Croatia.
Earlier, Yugoslav television said another NATO aircraft of unspecified type, was shot down late Thursday between Pristina, the Kosovo provincial capital and Podujevo in the north of the province.
Fifteen cruise missiles were also shot down in the province, the television said.
The Yugoslav army general staff said early Thursday that two NATO aircraft and several cruise missiles had been shot down in the first wave of air strikes on Wednesday night.
NATO officials also denied that report.
If the Yugoslav claims are true, it would mean that in two days, NATO has also lost five aircraft to Yugoslav anti-aircraft fire.
Diplomats in Brussels said it was unlikely that NATO would acknowledge the loss of aircraft at this stage of the operation. Before admitting any such losses officially, the alliance would do all it could to recover the pilots, the diplomats said.
Tanjug also said NATO raids on Kosovo, concentrated mainly on the northwest of the province, had left numerous casualties. It said an army barracks at Prizren in the south of the province was hit Thursday evening causing several casualties.
Tanjug also a missile apparently aimed at a barracks, fell on an old district of Djakovica causing a fire and also causing casualties.
The agency said Albanian separatist rebels had attacked the Serbian army and police in the wake of the NATO attacks on parts of Djakovica. One policeman was injured, it said.
The raids ended at around midnight.
As NATO pounded Yugoslavia with missiles and bombs Thursday, Belgrade severed diplomatic relations with the Alliance's four top member states and expelled their journalists.
Yugoslav television said diplomatic ties were being severed with the United States, Britain, Germany and France.
"The federal government has decided to break relations ... because of the crime committed against the people of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia," an official statement said.
The announcement was made as NATO sent in more cruise missiles and warplanes to hit military targets in the rump Yugoslavia (Serbia and Montenegro), aiming to force President Slobodan Milosevic to accept a Kosovo peace accord where an ethnic Albanian majority has been fighting for self-rule..
"Without getting into specifics, we are focusing on the very forces that are being used and assembled for use against the Kosovar Albanians," US Defence Department spokesman Kenneth Bacon said in Washington.
Air defense systems were also targeted, Bacon said, adding that the latest wave of attacks were "severe" and "substantive".
Five strong explosions were heard in Belgrade around 8:38 p.m. (1938 GMT), coming from suburbs to the north of the Yugoslav capital.
Another 15 or so explosions, three of them very strong, were heard in Kosovo's capital Pristina, residents said by telephone.
In Montenegro, several shells fell near Podgorica airport, and two explosions were heard near the northern town of Danilovgrad, where military installations are situated, radio reports said.
On the Adriatic Sea, more than 20 cruise missiles were fired from NATO warships, a CNN reporter on a US vessel reported.
Some 70 planes were seen taking off from the Aviano air base in northern Italy, out of a total of 130 at the base, including Stealth bombers.
In New York, Russia introduced a resolution in the UN Security Council at a closed-door meeting calling for an immediate halt to the NATO air strikes.
Diplomats said a vote was expected Friday on the resolution demanding "an immediate cessation of the use of force ... and urgent resumption of negotiations".
But NATO allies Britain and the United States have veto power in the council, and US representative Peter Burleigh warned: "We will actively oppose it."
In Washington, US President Bill Clinton said Milosevic must "choose peace" in Kosovo or see his military capabilities crippled.
"He has to choose peace or we have to limit his ability to make war," he said, as he met with his national security team.
In Brussels, NATO Secretary-General Javier Solana said the first wave of air strikes on Wednesday appeared to have been "successful". "All NATO aircraft returned safely to their bases."
But Russia's Chief of Staff General Anatoly Kvashnin said that two NATO aircraft -- a Tornado and an F-16 -- had been shot down.
US General Wesley Clark, NATO's supreme allied commander for Europe, ruled out an immediate halt to the strikes.
"The operation will be just as long and as difficult as Milosevic wants it to be," Clark said. "Our objective is to attack, disrupt, degrade and, if Milosevic does not comply, destroy the Serb forces."
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Message: Kevorkian Guilty of 2nd degree murder
Name: Bummer
email:
Message: The SF liberals deleted the "Ode to Wee-Willey-Jeff" poem on Forum 69. That was Hysterical! Hey, SF liberals, where's that sense of humor?
Name: Graduated High School
email: Rules Shmules
Message: Come on conservatives, this is the Hillary forum. Those nasty "rules" are soooo "right wingish" and "fundamentalistical" (hey, its the Clinton era - make up your own words). Heck, if rules don't apply to the President, why should they apply to liberals. It's diversity baby, we all have our own little "diverse" realities. If one person's reality is that Susan McDougal is a virtuous victim and Ken Starr is "evil" then "thats their trip baby." (pass the joint man) Party on man! (could 10 liberals ever get together and play a basketball game - all those nasty rules, fouls, consequences, eeuuuu!)
Name:
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Message: A closer inspection of Forum 69 reveals a host of deletions aimed not at messages that are patently offensive, but delete dialogs where SF liberals make fools of themselves in fair and open debate.
So much for "Truth Seekers"
Name:
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Message: Poll: New Yorkers Cool to Hillary
AP
Poll: New Yorkers cooler to Mrs. Clinton
ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) — New Yorkers aren't as hot on the idea of
Hillary Rodham Clinton running for Senate as they were a month
ago, according to a poll released today.
A Marist College Institute for Public Opinion poll conducted among
registered voters this week found 45 percent saying she should
run, down from 56 percent last month. Another 49 percent of
respondents thought she should not run, up from 37 percent in
February.
The results mirror other polls that have found a decrease in public
enthusiasm for a Senate bid by Mrs. Clinton following a spike of
support when reports first circulated that she was considering a
run for retiring U.S. Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan's seat.
Sixty percent of Marist poll respondents believed Mrs. Clinton
would run.
The poll of 616 registered voters was conducted March 22-24. It
has a margin of error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.
Mrs. Clinton is not expected to announce her intentions until this
summer. The most prominent potential Republican contender,
New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani, has not announced his
plans either.
The Marist poll found a potential matchup between the two
continues to be close, with 48 percent for Mrs. Clinton and 46
percent for Giuliani. That was statistically unchanged from a Marist
poll released March 3 that found Mrs. Clinton with 50 percent and
Giuliani with 46 percent, but a drop-off from the first lady's leads of
53-42 in January and 49-38 in February in the same poll.
A poll from the Quinnipiac College Polling Institute released
Tuesday found the first lady favored by 50 percent of registered
voters surveyed to 39 percent for Giuliani. A Quinnipiac poll
released a month ago had Mrs. Clinton leading Giuliani 54 percent
to 36 percent.
Name: Graduated High School
email: facts hurt
(if your a Susan defender)
Message: "However, the quote attributed to
Susan can be verified one way or the other as the words of Susan McDougal.
As I see it, the SF liberals do a diservice by deleting the quote that makes S
usan look bad given we know the ultimate source is Susan McDougal." .
. . Don't confuse SF liberals with such obvious logic, you might hurt their self-esteem.
Name: Innocent bystander
email: to Editors
Message:
Assuming that you guys are right i.e. that a poster used the name "Susan" and
posted a message that is on its face transparent to all as not the words
Susan McDougal who say, truthful or not, would not the message be
obviously parody rather than a lie? A lie seeks to deceive. A parody seeks
to make fun of. What do you think the point of the message was?
Name:
email:
Message:
Name:
email:
Message:
"…McDougal who say, truthful or not, would not the message be obviously
parody rather than a lie? A lie seeks to deceive. A parody seeks to make fun of. What do
you think the point of the message was?"
Look to the Democrat spokesman and role model Larry Flynt for the answer.
Larry Flynt - the great liberal - used this exact defense when he was sued
for portraying one of the people he hates as a pedophile in the Democrat Magazine
"Hustler". Democrat Larry Flynt made a fake advertisement for Jerry Falwell
in which he is was remembering fondly his first sexual experience -
which was supposed to have been with his mother. Democrat Larry Flynt got
away with it so why shouldn't everybody be able to get away with it?
Name: Gale & Cris Owsley
email: cgowsley@bentonrea.com
Message:
Help bring Juvenile Offenders into accountability for their crimes by supporting Bill S254
We are grassroot advocates dedicated to bringing repeat and violent juveniles into accountability for their crimes since our son/stepson, Shaun, was murdered by a 15 year old using a 3" knife blade with a pistol-grip handle. See our website www.juvenilejusticebill.com for more details.
Name: Editors
email:
Message: Whine, whine, whine. Poor baby got his/her imposter-message deleted. Be grateful you don't live in Yugoslavakia where you could be shot for no reason at all.
You are filling up this whole forum with your whining. Surely you can find more important things to discuss. What about Kevorkian, Yugoslovakia, anything but your boring whining. You are losing our audience.
Name: Anonymous observer
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Message: "anything but your boring whining. You are losing our audience." . . . The audience got bored with constant liberal "bad Ken Starr" whining and has more fun making fun of liberals, Hillary and Susan.
Name: Rj
email: tcom30@yahoo.com
Message: Anybody that supports the clintons have to be as sick as they are, and they are sick, if you don't believe it just read the clinton chronicles, he needs to be hung, Every American should view the clinton chronicles before they call themselves Americans
Name: Editors to Rj and Anonymous observer
email: More Whining
Message: You guys just can't stop whining about our notorious president Clinton. You are so obsessed with his sins. Would you prefer Milosevic? Maybe you would prefer Govenor George Bush Jr who hasn't made up his mind whether he is for or against the war in Kosovo. He'll make a decision "in May," he said. Now that's what I call a strong leader -- somebody who can only make decisions after the fact!!! Like betting on a horse after the race is run.
George Bush Sr did not have "that vision thing," and it looks like his kiddie doesn't have it either. That's what we need: a leader without vision.
Libby Dole can make decisions: She's with NATO in this war. If you Republicans had any smarts at all you would support Libby for president.
Name: Anarchy in Kosovo
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Message: Anarchy in Kosovo: Kosovo itself appeared to be sinking into anarchy with reports of massacres of ethnic Albanians, armed Serbs roaming the streets and shops and cafes looted and burnt.
NBC's Jim Miklasweski reports Friday on the downing of Yugoslav MiGs.
“There’s total anarchy. People almost feel lucky if they’re arrested by the police and taken to the station. As long as they don’t fall into the hands of the gangs,” a Pristina resident reached by telephone from Zagreb was quoted as saying on Friday.
Name: Serb Rampage
email: MSNBC
Message: Despite the airstrikes, NATO Supreme Commander Gen. Wesley Clark acknowledged Friday that alliance airpower could not stop Serb attacks on Kosovo villages.
Name: Serbs: Nationalistic Fervor
email: Milosevic’s support highest ever
Message: For Serbs, the NATO campaign has stirred up Yugoslav nationalist fervor.
“Mr. Milosevic’s support was never so high in the last five to 10 years as it is now,” said Predrag Simic, a government adviser told MSNBC in Belgrade.
Name: Muhamed Sacribey
email:
Message: Milosevic is against the peace plan because it was understood that the exit strategy of the NATO peacekeeping troops would be only after Milosevic left office. That’s what the wars in Slovenia, Croatia and Bosnia were all about — his attempts to use nationalism to stay in power.
Name: antwon and albert
email: Birdgrma@aol.com
Message: dear mrs hillary, our names are albert johnson, and antwon ethridge... we are both in
the fourth grade at the Johnson Magnat School for Space Exploration and
Technology...we have a small library and we really need books bad..all of our
book are really old....could you and the president come and visit our school?
We are really reading well and soon there will be no more books to read....we
would keep you safe because we have a parent partol that keeps us safe.
We
are foster children but our grandma and papa say we do not use that term and
that we are their grandchildren and they have really done a lot for us..they
really love us and we love them because we now have a family that is there for
us...but would you and the president come visit our school. you would be
really proud of our school.....our address at home is
Name: zainool "joe" rahman
email:
Message:
I think Hillary is very smartand would make a good PRES. She could gain some publicity by doing the following: A
WAR ON TOBACCO; by proposing banning smoking to protect children and nonsmokers who
rights are violated in restaurants and bars. She blasted HOllywood which promotes smoking .
Name: diana the croation
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Message: from belgrade: now the world knows the pigs you are,get your heads out
of your ass and come to grips to what you are and what
you are doing and done!!!
Name: Hawk
email: zoom@lafn.org
Message: As a Croation, I am sure that you are PROUD of the 750,000 Serbs,
Jews, and Gypsie that the Croatian killed in WWII in their
concentration camps. Of the ethnic cleansing and genocide committed
in 1995 in Krajina of 350,000 Serbs.
Name: Send the Turks
email:
Message: Send in the Turks to clean out the CRIMINAL SERBIAN INFECTION in
Kosovo. It will be like old times!!
Name: Another Ottoman Empire
email:
Message: Yeah...lets extend Turkey into Europe again. What we need is another
Ottoman empire. In that way...they and the Russians can fight and
keep the region occupied for the next 200 years like they used to.
Name: diana the croation
email:
Message: How does it feel now you serb blood hungry pigs in
belgrade, hope you are feeling like dogs in your shelters
Name: Frank
email:
Message: The Serbs must be the most hated people in the Balkans.
It seems like everyone detests them.
How different it could have been if they had a Vlaclav
Havek seeking reconciliation but willing to let go instead of a
"Blood and Iron" fascist like Milosovitch in power in l989.
Name: Frank
email:
Message: The Serbs must be the most hated people in the Balkans.
It seems like everyone detests them.
How different it could have been if they had a Vlaclav
Havek seeking reconciliation but willing to let go instead of a
"Blood and Iron" fascist like Milosovitch in power in l989.
Name: Matt Santangelo
email: Orthodox Christian Albanian-American
Message: The NATO response to Serbian ethic cleansing and atrocities in Kosova
leaves me with mixed emotions. My grandparents came to the USA from
Albania, and were Orhodox Christians - the same exact faith as the
Serbian people.
In 1994, as a US Naval Reserve Officer, I served as a miliary advisor
to the Albanian Navy under the Partnership for Peace Program. I
found over many weeks of interaction, that the Albanians of every
relgion (Orthodox, Muslim, Catholic) get along well, intermarry, and
have a high degree of tolerance for each other's faiths. I even
attended a wedding party between an Orthodox and Muslim couple.
I am afraid, however, that the conflict in Kosova has a real
potential for spill-over into a wider Greek/Turkish war. This is not
rhetoric or US propoganda. In the military realm, I found much
direct evidence that the Turks were providing most of the support for
the Albanian military. Albanian military cadets even attend the
Turkish academies.
So, now I watch my Serbian orthodox "brothers and sisters in
Christ" kill and repress mostly muslim Kosovar Albanians. It is
also painful to see the Orthodox Russians and Greeks support Serbia
on some basis of shared relgious brotherhood. In the end, only one
conclusion is possible - that mass killers and repressors, of any
faith, must be held accountable for their actions. In the case of
Kosova, the potential for Greek/Turkish conflict clearly makes the
NATO actacks underway now a prudent step. Ground forces will be
needed, however, to expell the Serbs from Kosova. The west is not
prepared for this, and I am afraid that the ultimate victor in this
sad story will be Slobodan (which means "wolf"
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Deal... or OIL ... maybe ... then all this HUMANITARIAN effort.
Democracy VS ARAB OIL and HELP with Iraq.
I'm beginning to feel that the western world is WEAK, and needs OIL bad,
or somthihg else ...?
DEMOCRACY ... OR ... fuel in your car to get to the Pizza parlor ...
guess we choose which one we wanted ...
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Why did we start this war? Our economy was never so good. Our crime rate dropped to the lowest in years. I have not been paying attention to war in the Balkans, and am not in a position to have strong opinions, but one thing I do know is that we should never mess with success.
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Can anyone tell me what I said in my farewell address before I left as the
first President of these United States?
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Message: And as far, Im concerned, Susan McDougal is an innocent bystander who did
not tell a lie.
In fact she did not say anything. Ken Starr is an evil old man, a KBG or
Gestapo
type who puts people in jail mistakenly because he wants a person to bear false
witness for him. So Ken Star is a bum. A no good Gestapo Bum. Power corrupts and Ken
is absolutely corrupted with his power. Why doesn't he join MS Lewinsky on her
book publishing tour, so we can his see his evil face. Where is good ole Edward
Murrow when we need him to expose this wanna bee Joe McCarthy type this Gestapo agent, Ken Star.
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Name: Alice - just another mother
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Message: I opened the S.F. Chronicle this morning and saw a picture of Chelsea and you - an omen for a GREAT day. The picture was of you and Chelsea on your African trip. Thank you for visting there and being an advocate for WOMEN. Please bring back to the American public the realities of the inhumance practices that women are subjected to in the name of faith beliefs - faith in God knows what? Woule you consider going on a speaking tour - you are such a natural. What a great thing you are doing for your daughter. I see an effective activist in the making.
Stay safe. If you don't want to be our next president - how about vice-president. You can't just go away after your husband goes home.
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I like to read right wingers moaning and groaning at how awful their world is, they are a pityful bunch, but I get my kicks out of their misery. If only they knew, the biggest liberal to walk the earth was jesus of nazareth... the one they supposedly think is their god and saviour. What hippocrites!
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How many ground troops should we sacrifice to save Albanians from Genocide?
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Message: Genocide is genocide. It is, in and of and by itself itself, evil. Regardless of which country, ethnicity, religion is being slaughtered, genocide is forbidden. Like a cancer it must be eradicated.
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Message: I AM A PERSON WHO TRYING TO START A FARM FOR MY FAMILY IN THE COUNTRY TO KEEP MY KIDS AWAY FROM THE CITY . IT,S SAFER TO TEACH MY KIDS ABOUT WHAT LIFE IS ALL ABOUT AND TO RESPECT NATURE. WHAT BOTHERS ME IS IT SAFE TO START A FARM TO RAISE MY KIDS ON AND NOT WORRIE ABOUT MY FARM GOING UNDER? I LIVE AROUND OTHER FARMERS AND THEY WORRIE ABOUT THEIR FUTURE IN FARMING. ITS A SHAME TO SEE FAR
MERS WORRIE ABOUT THIER FUTURE. FARMER MAKE THE THE WORLD FOOD TO SERVIVE.
I AM A PERSON WHO,S HAVEING A HARD TIME MAKEING A FARM [ REASON MY OLDES SON
BROKE HIS ANKLE,MY WIFE WAS FIGHTING CANCER ,MY ONLY CAR BROKE DOWN AND I AM
HURT WITH WITH A ENJURE AND SERVEING ON WORKMAN COMP AND TO TOP IT OFF MY
WIFE MITE BE IN REMISSION WITH CANCER].BUT AM STILL TRYING TO START A FARM FOR MY
KIDS FAUTUR.IF MY WIFE WAS TO PASS AWAY I WILL LOSE MY TWO BOYS TO THERE REAL FATHERS AND ITS WILL BE HARD WITH OUT THEM WHEN YOU RAISE THEM FROM BABYS.WHAT I AM TRYING TO SAY WOULD I HAVE A CHANCE TO START A FARM ? WITH MY PROBLEMS OR SHOULD I FIGHT TO STAY AWAY FROM WELFARE WHICH IT TOOK ME THREE YEARS TO GET OUT OF IT.I NEED YOUR HELP WITH YOUR ADVICE ON WHAT ARE MY CHANCES TO GO ON TO SERVIE IN THE FUTURE IN FARMING. SO IT POSABLE FOR YOU TO E-MAIL ME BACK[ I WISH YOU WOULD BE HERE TO SEE TO UNDER STAND BUT I UNDER STAND THAT YOU ARE VERY BUISY IN THE CAPITAL .BUT MAY I GET YOUR E-MAIL ON MY CHANCES.
THANK YOU RAMIRO GARZA
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BELGRADE, Yugoslavia -- Whispers about a face-saving Serbian loss to the world's most powerful military alliance began here long before NATO bombs started to fall on Yugoslavia.
The whispers -- reinforced earlier this week in interviews with well-placed officials in the regime of Slobodan Milosevic, with opposition leaders and with Belgrade residents -- all follow a similar line of Balkan logic. It goes like this:
Peacefully surrendering control of Kosovo, a province that has genuine historical and religious importance to 10 million Serbs, would be humiliating. It would break President Milosevic's hold on nationalists, leaving him open to challenge, even assassination, at the hands of warlords who are part of his ruling elite.
But a hard military loss of Kosovo, after a brave and hopeless struggle against an overwhelming Western foe, could be just the ticket that Milosevic needs to survive with his Serbian manhood and his rule intact. It could rid him of an impoverished place that political
analysts in Serbia agree is all but ungovernable.
At the same time, such a military defeat would sanctify Milosevic in the lost-cause tradition of Serbia's martyred Prince Lazar. Just before dying in Kosovo in 1389 during a failed charge against Ottoman invaders, the Prince said, "It is better to die in battle than to live in
shame."
In this scenario, even as he savored the fruit of a glorious Serbian defeat, Milosevic would not share Prince Lazar's unpleasant end. For unlike him, Milosevic wages hopeless war from the safety of his bunkered Belgrade residence.
None of this, of course, has surfaced officially in Milosevic's Yugoslavia.
With NATO bombs falling nightly, such arguments, if breathed in public, would be
treasonous. State-controlled news organizations hold to the line voiced this week
by Vuk Draskovic, a Deputy Prime Minister, who thundered: "Losing Kosovo would be the
death penalty for the Serbian nation. Kosovo is the root of our national history."
Name: Stephanie Niketic
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Message: GOP Hopefuls Differ on Kosovo
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GOP Hopefuls Differ on Kosovo
By Stephanie Niketic @ultranet.com 8:10pm
As the Clinton administration continued airstrikes in Serbia, Republican presidential candidates remained deeply divided over how their party should respond.
While GOP leaders unanimously condemned President Clinton's foreign policy in general, they sounded discordant tones this week over whether the United States should be intervening in Kosovo. The views of the leading presidential contenders ranged from support for strong intervention and qualified backing for airstrikes to denunciation of any involvement and avoidance of the issue entirely.
"They're all over the map, and certainly that reflects the fissure that exists in
the Republican Party," said Thomas Moore, director of international studies at the Heritage Foundation. He described the split as essentially between "nationalists," who represent the party's more isolationist wing, and "globalists," who want to maintain a leading, active U.S. role in world affairs. "That great divide is certainly going to be accentuated by what we do in Kosovo," he said.
A spokeswoman for Texas Gov. George W. Bush, the GOP favorite in early polls, said he believes "that if we are going to commit American troops, we must be certain they have a clear mission, an achievable goal and an exit strategy." The spokeswoman, Karen Hughes, declined to say whether Bush thinks those conditions exist in Kosovo. "That's a decision that needs to be made by the commander-in-chief," she said.
Elizabeth Dole said she supports Clinton's decision "because I believe this action can be instrumental in forging a peaceful solution to a dangerous, escalating military conflict." She added, "The atrocities carried out by Serbian nationalists must be halted."
In a Senate speech, Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.), who is making his first bid for the GOP presidential nomination, also backed U.S. airstrikes in Kosovo. "We must not permit the genocide that [Yugoslav President Slobodan] Milosevic has in mind for Kosovo to continue," he said. "We must take action." He cited "a clear and present danger to our interests."
But McCain, a former Navy pilot and prisoner of war in Vietnam, joined other Republicans in denouncing what he called the administration's lack of an "exit strategy" in Kosovo and said he opposes deploying U.S. ground troops unless they are peacekeepers as part of a solid pact to end the fighting. "It's terribly frustrating that there's no endgame here," he said in a telephone interview. "If the bombing doesn't work, what then? The administration will not answer that question. There's no Plan B."
Sen. Robert C. Smith (R-N.H.), another Vietnam veteran and presidential candidate, argued strongly against airstrikes or ground action after trying unsuccessfully in the Senate to block any U.S. deployment to Kosovo. "I believe it's a civil war and we have no national interests there," he said in a telephone call with reporters. "This is something that's not worth risking one drop of American blood for."
Former vice president Dan Quayle "is opposed to military intervention in this case" because the Kosovo operation lacks "a clear, defined objective," said a spokesman, Jonathan Baron. But with fighting underway, Quayle will "support the troops," Baron added.
Patrick J. Buchanan, seeking the GOP nomination for the third time, accused Clinton of preparing to launch "an illegal, presidential war" as part of "an incoherent foreign policy." He added, "America has no vital interest in whose flag flies over Kosovo's capital, and no right to attack and kill Serb soldiers fighting on their own soil to preserve the territorial integrity of
their own country."
Rep. John R. Kasich (R-Ohio) said he also opposes any U.S. intervention and criticized the administration's "abysmal" handling of the crisis, but stressed that he and other Republicans were "not looking to score political points on this."
Lamar Alexander, the former Tennessee governor and a presidential contender for the second time, said in a telephone interview while campaigning in Alabama, "We should join NATO in airstrikes, but we should put no ground forces in Kosovo under any circumstances except as an extraction force to help out other allied forces who get into trouble."
He predicted that foreign policy would loom large in the upcoming campaign and that once Republicans unite behind a single candidate, "we will have an agenda" with which to confront Clinton and Vice President Gore, whose administration has "underequipped our military, overextended our forces and has brutal dictators thumbing their noses at us."
Malcolm S. "Steve" Forbes expressed similar views, saying he would support the use of U.S. air power in Kosovo, but not ground troops. For his part, Gary Bauer told NBC's "Meet the Press" that he would be willing to send U.S. troops to Kosovo because "America needs to be involved in the world."
"This is going to be a more divisive issue among the contending Republican candidates than might be presently realized," said Moore of the Heritage Foundation. "There's going to be a real struggle to arrive at an agreed-upon Republican position on foreign policy, because there certainly isn't one now."
Gary Schmitt, director of Project for the New American Century, a conservative think tank on foreign and defense policy, said GOP foreign policy positions "seem to be more a reaction against Clinton than a positive vision." He warned that the U.S. debate "only fuels the interest in the European Union to create its own foreign policy and defense institutions" apart from NATO.
Staff researcher Ben White contributed to this report.
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“It was always understood from the outset that there was no way we were going to stop these paramilitary forces who were going in there and murdering civilians in these villages.
“That can be stopped by President Milosevic. All he has to do is order it stopped,” he said.
A NATO spokesman later elaborated, saying intelligence indicated that 300 men convicted of hard-line nationalist crimes had been released from Serbian jails and added to Serb paramilitary forces in Kosovo.
From Pristina, ethnic Albanian sources told MSNBC’s Preston Mendenhall by phone that prominent local residents had disappeared and some had been killed. Other reports indicated that Yugoslav units were moving through Kosovo burning villages and herding refugees into detention
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Why did the US step in only when the Serbs delt a blow?
Why does the USA and Western Alliance (some) HATE GREECE but defend Turkey?
Seems they are so
afraid of losing Turkey's help with Iraq that they MUST
take the ARABS side in this?
Looks like NATO is defending the ARABS for their help in the Iraq?
March 27, 1999
IN BELGRADE
Milosevic Might Win From the Loss of Kosovo
By BLAINE HARDEN
GOP Hopefuls Differ on Kosovo
Analysts View Foreign Policy as Potentially Divisive Issue for Party
By William Branigin
Washington Post Staff Writer
Saturday, March 27, 1999; Page A23
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