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Click here to review PAST MESSAGES on FORUM 18 Will the President Recover? Bombing Afganistan.
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Click here to review PAST MESSAGES on FORUM 28 Video Tapes Released! Big surprise - Clinton's ratings go up!
Click here to review PAST MESSAGES on FORUM 29 Right-Wing extremists attack on forum. Hacked, disabled, sexual abuse. Forum shut down for three days.
Click here to review PAST MESSAGES on FORUM 30 Hillary Clinton in San Francisco. Very popular and very presidential. Fundraising Dinner for Barbara Boxer sold out! Editors of Hillary Clinton Forum invited to attend.
Click here to review PAST MESSAGES on FORUM 31 Special Conservative Forum for Anti-Liberal and Anti-Clinton messages.
Click here to review PAST MESSAGES on FORUM 32 It's not sex, or even perjury, it's a Right-Wing COUP! Dysfunctional Democracy - The Triumph of Theocracy.
Click here to review PAST MESSAGES on FORUM 33 Bad News for the GOP - Significant loss in polls after release of the videos on the Internet.
Click here to review PAST MESSAGES on FORUM 34 Peace Accord in the Middle East. H.RES.545 - SPONSOR: Rep Hastings, Alcee A resolution impeaching Kenneth W. Starr,
Click here to review PAST MESSAGES on FORUM 35 Halloween. HUGE Voter turnout expected in California. Judge orders Starr investigation.
Click here to review PAST MESSAGES on FORUM 36 Democrats Win Big! Americans Send a Message to Republicans - Drop it!
Click here to review PAST MESSAGES on FORUM 37 Why the GOP lost the November 3rd Elections. Discussions on abortion.
Click here to review PAST MESSAGES on FORUM 38 Thanksgiving. House Judiciary Committee holds impeachment hearings. Kenneth Starr in Congress. Hillary Clinton Forum Featured in THE TIMES of London
Click here to review PAST MESSAGES on FORUM 39 Republicans on the House Judiciary Committee recommend impeaching President Clinton. Straight party line of 21-16, setting up historic political showdown.
Click here to review PAST MESSAGES on FORUM 40 Hillary Clinton Forum in Newsweek .
Click here to review PAST MESSAGES on FORUM 42 US Bombs Iraq. Bob Livingston Outed by Larry Flynn!
Click here to review PAST MESSAGES on FORUM 43 Bob Livingston Resigns in disgrace.
Click here to review PAST MESSAGES on FORUM 44 Clinton Impeached on two counts by Kangaroo court. GOP Commits Political Suicide!
Click here to review PAST MESSAGES on FORUM 45 Clinton's Popularity Hits New High! Promises never to resign. Halts strikes on Iraq.
Click here to review PAST MESSAGES on FORUM 47 Merry Christmas. GOP Hypcrites outed by Larry Flynn - Citizens and media begin attacking the Radical Right.
Click here to review PAST MESSAGES on FORUM 48 Happy New Year. Larry Flynt and Tom DeLay driving GOP Agenda.
Click here to review PAST MESSAGES on FORUM 49 Senate Impeachment Trial begins.
Click here to review PAST MESSAGES on FORUM 50 Republicans try to smear Clinton with Danny Williams paternity suit.
Click here to review PAST MESSAGES on FORUM 51 Senate begins Impeachment Trial. Bob Barr & Trent Lott's connection to white supremacists.
Click here to review PAST MESSAGES on FORUM 52 Martin Luther King Day. Clinton's State of the Union Address Brilliant Success. 77% Approval rating.
Click here to review PAST MESSAGES on FORUM 53 GOP Self Destructs. Conservatives attack their own GOP leaders.Secret meeting with Monica.
Click here to review PAST MESSAGES on FORUM 54 GOP Self Destructs. Pat Robertson Retreats. Bob Barr disavows the CCC.
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Click here to review PAST MESSAGES on FORUM 56 Impeachment Trial - Larry Rockefeller's call to Republicans.
Click here to review PAST MESSAGES on FORUM 57 Impeachment Trial - Just one more week and it's over!
Click here to review PAST MESSAGES on FORUM 58 Teletubbies furor. Tinky Winky outed by Jerry Falwell.
Click here to review PAST MESSAGES on FORUM 59 President Clinton Acquitted on Both Charges!
Click here to review PAST MESSAGES on FORUM 60 Should Hillary run for President, Vice President or Senator of New York?
Click here to review PAST MESSAGES on FORUM 61 Culture Wars
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77% SUPPORT OUR PRESIDENT!

."Now is the time for all good men and women to come to the aid of their Constitution." MSNBC NEWS ...MORE....

BAD NEWS FOR THE GOP

Angry Voters Quitting The GOP

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Message: Pat Robertson Surrenders!
The Civil War of Innuendo & Hypocrisy is OVER!
Let the celebrations begin, but remember the names of their leaders, and their wimps that followed blindly. Rid our Congress of this vermin forever. Rout out every member of the enemy who conspired to overthrow our democracy.

Name: NOSTRADAMUS

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Message: As I predicted many forums ago, the Republican Congress will commit political suicide. Nostradamus is never wrong.

Name: Retreat! Retreat! R- E T- R- E -E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-E-A T!!!!!!

email: We won! Let the celebrations begin...

Message: So, Pat Robertson, founder of the Christian Broadcasting Network, has ordered his Christian Coalition troops to withdraw from their attempt to topple the presidency and overthrow democracy. Winning feels sooooo good. But, folks, don't slack up. There's lots of cleaning up to do. We just hit the beaches in the Senate and it's over.....But keep fighting until we get every member of the anti-constitutional forces out of office. Never let them back or we will go through this again. Take no prisoners. Ken Starr should go to prison for treason.

Name: Hillary was right

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Message: Hillary was right. It WAS a VRWC (Vast Right Wing Conspiracy). I honor her too. Hillary for President!

The Senate is about to take key votes on whether to close the trial or call witnesses. THIS MAY BE OUR LAST CHANCE to speak before the Senate commits to a long, drawn-out trial.

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Name: Vernon

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Message: The polls:::If over 70% of the people approve of clintong, then why do over 40% of the people say they are ashamed of him?

Name: Independent

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Message: You performed a true public service at this site by providing the toll free number for us to reach our Senators. I called the offices of both my Senators today and left word that the rebuttal by the President's defense team demands that witnesses be heard in order to find out which perspective is correct, and that this trial can only end with an up-or-down vote on the articles of impeachment. Let the people of America and the writers of history books compare the evidence and testimony with the Senate's vote to convict or acquit, and decide for themselves which Senators chose to place their party above their country.

Name: Waldo McDiddle

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Message: socks the cat for president socks the cat for president socks the cat for president

Name: Zippy the Wonder Slug to Editors

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XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX 01/25/99 23:48 UTC XXXXX

NBC SAID TO BE HOLDING INTERVIEW WITH 'JANE DOE'

NBC NEWS hotshot Lisa Myers has reportedly conducted an in-depth interview with "Jane Doe #5", according to media sources in an around the network.

The interview with Juanita Broaddrick of Arkansas is said to have gone down late last week and is now being held tight by NBC NEWS.

It is not known if and when the network plans on airing the interview, or what exactly it was that Broaddrick told Myers, but media circles in Washington have been buzzing with word of the development for days.

"I'm looking forward to the interview," Rep. Lindsey Graham, a House floor manager in the Senate impeachment trial," told a reporter over the weekend.

Lisa Myers, out of character, did not return repeated calls seeking comment. A well-placed source inside of NBC's Washington bureau said Myers "remained out of town." NBC NEWS president Andy Lack could not be reached.

Media excitement grew after a well-armed NBC crew was spotted outside of Broaddrick's home late last week.

"It was obvious that something was going down," reports one eyewitness. "The were cameras and a sound crew."

A second news network, reacting to reports that NBC was conducting the interview, later captured Broaddrick arriving and leaving a Tennis Club.

"They chased her car, at times going at high speeds... her husband went wild," says one network insider.

Last February, the DRUDGE REPORT alerted readers who were following the Paula Jones sex case that there was great interest swirling around a woman named "Juanita." She was code named "Jane Doe #5."

A month later, NBC's Myers explored the "Juanita" story in a nightly news shocker: A woman claims she was sexually assaulted by Bill Clinton back in the 1970s!

The White House called that allegation "outrageous."

The following is a flashback to the first Myers report on "Juanita" that aired on NBC NIGHTLY NEWS on Saturday, March 28, 1998:

"The explosive new allegation tonight is that President Clinton sexually assaulted a woman 20 years ago in Arkansas. It involves an alleged encounter at this Little Rock hotel in the late 1970s, between then Attorney General Bill Clinton and campaign worker, Juanita Broaddrick. In court documents today, Jones' lawyers claim Clinton quote 'forcibly raped and sexually assaulted' Broaddrick, then quote "bribed and intimidated her" to remain silent. Sources say that Broaddrick, now 54, recently denied under oath that such an assault occurred. But Jones' lawyers claim she had told their investigator she had suffered a quote 'horrible thing' at the hand of Clinton, and did not want to relive it. And NBC NEWS has talked to four people from Arkansas who say Broaddrick told them of such an assault years ago.

Today's charge is largely based on a letter from this man, Philip Yoakum, a friend and business associate of the alleged victim. In a letter to Broaddrick, written in 1992, Yoakum, a Republican writes, I was particularly distraught when you told me of your brutal rape by Bill Clinton, how he bit your lip until you gave into his forcing sex upon you.' In an interview with NBC NEWS, Yoakum said Broaddrick told him that Clinton invited himself to her hotel room, allegedly to discuss her nursing home business.

Unidentified Reporter: She told you in 1981 that Bill Clinton assaulted her?

Mr. PHILLIP YOAKUM (Arkansas Businessman): Mm-hm. Yes, 1981 is when she told me.

Reporter: Did you believe her at the time?

Mr. YOAKUM: I believed her.

MYERS: Yoakum admits he is no fan of the president and that he unsuccessfully tried to get Broaddrick to tell her story when Clinton first ran for president.

Mr. YOAKUM: And she says, Who would believe me, little old Juanita from Van Buren?'

MYERS: There was another woman at that hotel that day, a nurse and friend of Broaddrick who says she iced her friend's face after the assault. In a telephone interview with NBC NEWS, this woman, who admits she dislikes Clinton, said Broaddrick was distraught, her lips were swollen at least double in size. She told me they had intercourse against her will.' Again a White House spokesman dismissed the charge as outrageous, false, and the work of the president's long-time political opponents.' The White House also noted that Broaddrick herself already denied the allegation under oath.

Developing...

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I realize that this is a stretch but just for the record, is Rape an Impeachable Offence? I just want the Editors on record which ever way this goes. I suspect it will be another Red Herring but just in case, if the President really has Raped a woman, is that enough to throw him out? Does "Date Rape" count?

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Name: Vernon

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Message: Why, with every day bringing forth some new allegation, doesn't this man just resign? It's obvious that HE is the problem. Let's get rid of the bum.

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Message: if anyone sees hillary please tell her to do herself a favor and not run for president ... Sense. p.s. 100% of the people i know dont support clinton right now ... just though i'd let those people who are reading those biased polls know a closer opinion of america

Name: Mike

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Message: Hillary I think U would be a great 1st women pres. I think the reps. are out to savetoge Bill legasey, soeey my spelling sucks. But Girl, I;ll vote for U. I think U have done more for uhmanitty then any First Lady, I dont like that name U U need to be the 1'st. women presd. U have all my suport. Go For It Mike Asbury

Name: Waldo McDiddle

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The White House called that allegation "outrageous."

Where have we heard that before?

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Message: The Juanita from Van Buren story has been around for years. She has given inconsistent statements and from all accounts is an unstable person. I don't think this one will fly.

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U.S. Court Rules For Starr, Reinstates Hubbell Case

Fox News Wire
10.40 a.m. ET, January 26, 1999

WASHINGTON - A U.S. federal appeals court gave independent counsel Kenneth Starr a victory Tuesday, reinstating tax evasion charges against Webster Hubbell, a longtime friend of President Clinton and the first lady.

Once again Ken Starr is vindicated and another Friend Of Bill is in trouble...

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There is another Zogby Poll of likely voters out:

January 25, 1999

The poll of 993 likely voters throughout the United States was conducted January 19-21, 1999. The poll has a margin of sampling error of +/- 3.2%.

Overall, how would you rate the performance of Bill Clinton as president - excellent, good, fair, or poor?

Excellent	28.1
Good	32.4
Fair	17.6
Poor	20.7
Not sure	1.2

Please tell me if your overall opinion of each of the following people is very favorable, somewhat favorable, somewhat unfavorable, or very unfavorable, or you are not familiar enough to form an opinion?

Bill Clinton

Very favorable	23.1
Somewhat favorable	27.9
Somewhat unfavorable	14.8
Very unfavorable	31.1
Not familiar	0.8
Not sure	2.3

Are you proud or ashamed that Bill Clinton is President?

Proud	40.1
Ashamed	42.2
Not sure	17.7

How closely are you following the trial of President Clinton in the Senate - very closely, somewhat closely, or not closely at all?

Very closely	26.2
Somewhat closely	45.2
Not closely at all	28.6

How important do you feel this issue is to the nation – very important, somewhat important, or not at all important?

Very important	47.8
Somewhat important	24.0
Not at all important	27.3
Not sure	0.9

What do you feel is the best outcome of the Clinton impeachment case?

End the trial and leave the President alone	28.2
A mild censure*	19.6
A strong censure*	23.7
Removal from office	24.9
Not sure	3.6

Strong censure: meaning that the President does not have to admit he lied and will not necessarily be held accountable once his term is up.
Mild censure: meaning he must admit he lied and can be held accountable for prosecution after he leaves office.

Recently, one congressman has suggested that the Senate can convict the President and choose to not remove him from office. Would you agree or disagree with this approach?

Agree	33.4
Disagree	56.3
Not sure	10.2

Who do you blame most for this case - the President or the Republicans in Congress?

President	44.5
Republicans	30.7
Both	18.4
Neither	4.3
Not sure	2.2

Do you agree or disagree that lying before a Grand Jury is an impeachable offense?

Agree	54.6
Disagree	16.0
It depends	25.7
Not sure	3.7

Do you agree or disagree that obstruction of justice is an impeachable offense?

Agree	58.7
Disagree	11.6
It depends	26.0
Not sure	3.7

Do you agree or disagree that President Clinton has lied before a Grand Jury?

Agree	62.9
Disagree	19.8
It depends	17.2

Because of the Clinton-Lewinsky case, do you plan to change your party registration?

Yes	3.0
No	95.8
Not sure	1.2

If yes, what party will you be switching to?

Democrat	50.0
Republican	27.0
Independent	10.9
Not sure	12.1

Observations by Zippy:

• More voters are ashamed of Bill Clinton than proud.
• Only a quarter of the voters are well informed on the impeachment yet half think it's "very important". Huh?!
• Even the average voter knows that you can't convict and then not remove the president from office.
• Well over half think that lying to the Grand Jury is impeachable and even more think he did lie but less than a quarter think he should be removed. Proof that emotion, not logic, keeps this man in office.
• The Democrats stand to gain 1.5 percent of the voters changing parties. The Republicans stand to gain 0.81 percent of the voters changing parties. So much for the decimation of the Republican party. The statistics simply do not support that theory.

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OOPS! Correction:

Mild censure: meaning that the President does not have to admit he lied and will not necessarily be held accountable once his term is up.
Strong censure:meaning he must admit he lied and can be held accountable for prosecution after he leaves office.

Name: Susan Fontaine

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Message: It is time for a woman to lead the people of the United States as President of this great Union, and I believe Hillary Rodham Clinton is the woman for the job. Never before has an American woman been in such a vital position power and influence and accumulated such vast political experience and knowledge. Never before has an American played such a vital role in shaping American Presidential programs and policies. Never before has an America woman exhibited such dignity and composure under such unwarranted public duress and pressure. If elections were held tomorrow, I would vote for Hillary Rodham Clinton, and if she is nominated by the Democratic party in 2002, I will vote for her.

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Message: Iam an independent not a racist like BoB Barr a known member of the CCC. This group hates and I mean hates blacks and jews so if you are not is this group ignore me just like the Germans ignored the Nazis and then they had to pay a wicked price. They the CCC go after different groups like the Catholics with Abortion the rich people with the promise of lower taxes. Older woman ages 35-60 without a husband to help raise their kids with moral issues and family and help the kids sure they help raise money for themselves to get more of themselves elected. Then they go after grown men who have lost their jobs or were downsized and have to work two jobs and really struggle to live. Hitler loved the unemployed and preyed on them. Then they the Conservatives send their kids to private school and carefully teach them the CCC line hate blacks hate jews they are not like you. We are European white the more intlelligent race, If you watched Jessie Jackson a few nights agopn CNN, he had a real stupid CCC bigot on saying how the blacks dont have brains like the white folk do. The CCC group and their sympathisers have billions of dollars raised plus they own TV stations and newpapers and use Rush Limbaugh, the ex tub of lard to spew hate toward President Clinton and now they arent going quitely away from this impeachment bit they want to character assinate the President, by repeating it over and over again to justify their unamrican behavoir just like Hitler did in the 20's and the 30's to gain favor with the voters to get elected to power . It does sound far fetched but once you start down the road like the CCC has you begin to wonder who the heck the CCC is. and why are so many elected officials mostly Southrern Republicans and some Northerners associated with them. It is power naked raw power. Behind them is organized religion a no no by our founders. and for good reason look at the early or late history of Europe up till 1945. So they the CCC and the Republicans funded by them are going to go on and try to dirty the President more to justify thereselves for this lousy witch hunt by bigoted bastards. Law and order, We should burn a Hitler Cross on Trenton Lott who has written a column in the CCC sublte and polite racist newsletter for 10 years. Also lynch Strom Thurmond who ran for President of the Dixiecrats and probably knoww who in 1948. killed JFK Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy. Stone Henry Hyde the worst hypocrite of them all for stealing a mans wife away and how about all the other assorted liarers and fakirs who take money and lots of it to get re-elected to Congress in 2000. Sure it can't happen here.

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Message: What should have done ot the President is have his wife wholloped the Presidesnts ass in private for what he did to his family. But, really now has the President hurt any one or hated any one like some of that bunch of Republicans and the CCC. No, he hasnt done that Has he tried to hurt anyone, so why have the super smug republicans always after the President since 1992. And what punishment should the Republicans pay in their dirty tricks they have played on us -- Maybe we should have President Clinton stay in office eight more years. After all he has done a fine job. Like I always say, first we pick the president and then we pick on him. But people like Zippy and Minglewood and Vernon and other people come on here and say very nasty(big shots they are, Are they? and so articulate) things against a duly elected president. Excuse me, look in your own skeletons in your past( or closet). Everyone makes mistakes, but the lord forgives us. So be nice and be compassionate for we only come this once.

Name: FreeSpeech

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Message: for we only come this way once.

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Message: I may be harsh forgive me, but they are the Council of Conservative Citizens (A Jesse Helms Pat Robertson Mississippi hate filled KKK group) tying desparately to smear the President so their supporters will fund their next election. in the year 2000. We were taught to just vote (another vote against the worst candidate) ,a vote against the lesser of two evils. Because if they confuse you and you dont cast any vote you lose and so does Democracy.

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Message: "YOU have to be carefully taught to hate by parents who hate" and The Lord doesnt like his name to be used in vain or for a hateful purpose so they are hiding behind the pulpit. What does religion try to teach us. Be good to thy neighbor, not to hate him like The Council of Conservatives who are a mad power hungry bunch who want to rule us. They are so nutty they think they have all the answers. Freedom to Worship whom you wish. Isnt that beautiful. Freedom of Speech. Freedom to cast a Vote in Private. Freedom to pursue a career or get education. Freedom of movement. "Freedom" it is so precious, we sometimes take it for granted. We the Americans are blessed. My father worked very hard. He raised a family, Had a house, Had a car. Nobody gave him a dime. He made it himself thru good honest work.He ate good and enjoyed himself when he wasnt working. But, he enjoyed his work. and that is important. He didnt believe in being a lender or lending money to his friends. But, he was a charitable man He got eight hours of good sleep. Ate on time. Didnt snack much. Walked every day and accepted his fate and the fact that he had to work very hard to provide for his family. I respected him because he had the hard work ethic. He never cheated anyone, never. His word was gold. He was frightning if you bad but his mood changed 10 minutes after he gave you that all fearful look if if you messed up. He encouraged us to learn to work hard and to enjoy each day as if it were your last. How? Well to be up early and try to do most everything in the morning. Cause, he would say, "The morning is like a thief, it moves so quickly". "You won't be successful", he would say, "if you don't start early in the morning".

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Message: Hey, free speech, if you are going to include me in your hate filled diatribe, at least try to write some passages that make sense, and for god sake, learn how to punctuate and not use run on sentences. It's a shame to waste a good mind, but you have certainly wasted yours if you support bill and hillary.

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FreeSpeech?

Rush Limbaugh, the ex tub of lard ...
... unamrican behavoir just like Hitler ...
... bigoted bastards ...
We should burn a Hitler Cross on Trenton Lott ...
Also lynch Strom Thurmond ...
Stone Henry Hyde ...

So be nice and be compassionate ...

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Name: Zippy the Wonder Slug to "FreeSpeech"

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Since FreeSpeech chooses to mention me by name I shall reply in kind.

"What should have done ot the President is have his wife wholloped the Presidesnts ass in private for what he did to his family. Assuming I understand you I must agree, Hillary should have opened up an economy sized can of "WhoopAss" and poured it all over Bill for what he did to her and especially for what he did to their daughter. However that is not the point of the current trial in the Senate. He is being tried for lying, not to his family, but under oath to a Federal Grand Jury. He is being tried for attempting to obstruct justice, something we conservatives still care about. I can only assume that you would allow a powerful man with your political views slide on such trivialities. I suspect, however, that you would crucify any Republican that dared break the law. Hypocrites indeed! But, really now has the President hurt any one or hated any one like some of that bunch of Republicans and the CCC. No, he hasnt done that Ask Paula Jones if he hurt her by attempting to rob her of her right to a fair trial. Ask Betty Currie if he hurt her by thrusting her into this situation rather than asking her to lie for him. Ask Monica Lewinsky if he hurt her by allowing himself to commit adultery with her when he damn well knew they could get caught. Ask Hillary and Chelsea if he hurt them by betraying their trust. There is not room on this forum to list all the people that Bill Clinton has hurt only because he lacks the spine to be a man! Has he tried to hurt anyone, so why have the super smug republicans always after the President since 1992. Simply because they knew then what we are finding out now: Bill Clinton is a cad and is unfit to conduct the business of the United States of America. And what punishment should the Republicans pay in their dirty tricks they have played on us -- Maybe we should have President Clinton stay in office eight more years. I will assume that you know this would not be constitutional. It would also be unwise. Why punish the entire country just to get back at the Republicans? After all he has done a fine job. I challenge you to give proof of one single thing the president has done to help this nation. One! Ever since the 1994 elections he has been pushing Republican issues while calling the Republicans "extremists". Every single worthwhile piece of legislation that has been enacted in the last four years is the result of the Republican Congress. The only Big Idea the Clinton’s ever tried to put into action was the Socialist Healthcare Scam that even a Democratic Congress would have no part of! Like I always say, first we pick the president and then we pick on him. Comes with the territory, dude. But people like Zippy and Minglewood and Vernon and other people come on here and say very nasty(big shots they are, Are they? and so articulate) things against a duly elected president. I resent that LIE and challenge you to give evidence of one "nasty" thing I have posted. You have no right to insult me just because my opinion differs from yours. If you must insult me, do so for factual or logical errors, otherwise shut the *^%&^ up about me or, God Forbid, offer some evidence in support of your idiotic, bigoted, Hitler fixated ranting. Excuse me, look in your own skeletons in your past( or closet). Everyone makes mistakes, but the lord forgives us. And the Lord is the only one in a position to do so. The rest of us have to settle for THE LAW. So be nice and be compassionate for we only come this once." Narf! Maybe you should read some of the "HateSpeech" you've posted here before giving anyone that advise.

I might add that I have been sorely tempted to do this on several occasions and resisted. This time I just couldn't help putting an uneducated fool in his place even if I've made a bit of a fool of myself in doing so.

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Message: You have a sweet nature Zippy. You wife must really love you.

Name: Zippy the Wonder Slug

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"You have a sweet nature Zippy. You wife must really love you."

I ask for rebuttal and I get grammatically incorrect sarcasm. I rest my case...

P.S. Fifteen years and counting, buster. Better watch out or I'll turn her loose on you and she's smarter and less patient with your type than I am.

Name: Hypatia of Alexandria

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Name: Zippy the Wonder Slug

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So now Geraldo Rivera is a Libertarian?! He's too well educated to be ignorant of their views so what's up? He can't actually be supporting those views. As a Freeper recently posted:

"Listen to Geraldo on gun control, welfare, homelessness or any other liberal sacred cow and you will find that he, like any other loudmouth faux-libertarian, is all for personal freedom to have sex without responsibility, do drugs, gamble, have access to pornography, and generally live without accountability, but none of these nitwits actually favors limited government or holding individuals responsible for their own well-being."

Well said. 'Nuff said.

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I apologize for the large post but this is so good I think it should be immortalized on this forum.

CLINTON'S LAWYER IS A LIAR, TOO
By DICK MORRIS

EVEN as the impeachment trial grinds to a close and the president prepares to show his remorse by dancing on its grave, the White House has introduced us to yet another liar in this long, tawdry process - Charles Ruff, President Clinton's lawyer. Throughout the proceedings, defense lawyers Ruff and Cheryl Mills have shown about the same regard for the truth as their famous client.

Charles Ruff was originally slated to be Clinton's attorney general - until it was revealed that, for years, he had not paid the federal nanny tax for his household help. Clinton quickly dumped him, but years later brought him in as counsel to the president, a position which did not require Senate confirmation and conveniently avoided any airing of his deliberate and embarrassing tax evasion.

Cheryl Mills was the subject of a congressional referral to the Justice Department which accused her of perjury and obstruction of justice in congressional proceedings. Sound familiar? She can truly feel Clinton's pain; she's been there, done that.

Some of Ruff's lies are laughs - like his earnest contentions that the DNA test had nothing to do with the president's belated decision to come clean about his relationship with Monica Lewinsky. Particularly humorous was his straight-faced statement that Clinton paid $850,000 to Paula Jones not because he was guilty but because he didn't have the time to deal with a case that had already been dismissed.

In Ruff's shamelessly duplicitous argument before Congress, he deliberately lied about Betty Currie's status in the Paula Jones case. House Manager Asa Hutchison skillfully exposed that lie. Ruff also claimed that he did not know whether the president had actually ever had any conversations with me about the poll which I conducted for him about the Monica Lewinsky matter on Jan. 21, 1998.

Unfortunately for Ruff, the president's own sworn written testimony - prepared by the same Charles Ruff - admits the conversations and exposes that lie. But like his client, Ruff remembers only what is convenient.

During Ruff's presentation, he claimed that the president had no illicit intentions in his ''coaching'' of Betty Currie because, as he put it, ''Betty Currie was never an actual or prospective witness ... In the entire history of the Jones case, Ms. Currie's name had not appeared on any witness list; nor was there any reason to suspect that she would play any role in the Jones case ... In the days following the deposition, the Jones lawyers never listed her, never added her to any witness list.''

Therefore, according to Ruff, the president would have had no motivation to coach Betty because she was of no interest to the Jones lawyers. He was simply refreshing his recollections. (Leave aside for the moment that he was apparently refreshing his recollection by making statements to Betty that he knew - and she knew - were untrue.)

Asa Hutchison caught Ruff's blatant lie and powerfully proved it to the Senate. He held up a copy of the subpoena that was actually issued for Betty Currie only a few days after the president's fateful deposition.

Ruff knew all about that subpoena, but he lied about it anyway.

Then, Hutchison held up the actual witness list, showing Betty Currie's name, which the Jones lawyers had submitted to the Court and to the president's lawyers on Jan. 23, 1998.

Ruff knew all about that witness list, but he deliberately lied about that, too.

When Ruff was caught, he apologized to the Senate for his ''misleading statement.'' In WhiteHousespeak, that means ''I lied to you and got caught.''

Ruff's co-counsel Cheryl Mills claimed that Betty Currie's testimony about retrieving the president's gifts to Lewinsky was consistent. That depends on what the word ''consistent'' means. Hutchison demonstrated that Betty Currie was actually inconsistent.

Only four weeks after she had actually retrieved the gifts from Monica on Dec. 28, 1997, Currie told the FBI that she had picked them up about three months earlier, distancing that event from the Jones subpoena for those gifts in December. Later, she moved it back even further, claiming that it was in the fall of 1997. Finally, Currie admitted that it was sometime in December, 1997. In this White House, that is what passes for consistency.

When Ruff was asked about the poll that I conducted for the president, and our telephone call discussing it, he claimed that he had ''no idea whether the conversation ever occurred or not.'' Once again, Ruff lied. When the president responded to the eighty-one questions from the House Managers, he admitted that the poll was taken and that he discussed it with me in telephone calls.

Not only did Ruff know all about the president's sworn answers, he was the one who prepared them and certified that they were true and accurate. Ruff also supervised the provision of White House documents to Kenneth Starr - including records of telephone calls from the president to me during the relevant time period. Ruff knew about that, too, but he lied, anyway.

If his own client admitted, under oath, that the conversation between the president and me did, indeed, take place and that I did, indeed, conduct a poll, why would Ruff try to suggest otherwise? While one cannot blame Ruff for being skeptical of the veracity of his own client's assertions, we can assume that any admission adverse to the president's interests would likely be true.

Ruff tried to wish away the poll because he wanted to avoid calling attention to the undeniable fact that the president himself was masterminding and coordinating the White House cover-up of the Lewinsky matter.

Most of all, Ruff knew about that.

Name: to Hypatia of Alexandria from Witch Hazel

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Message: Dear Hypatia,

Thanks for the link...but why not post all three quotes from her?

All formal dogmatic religions are fallacious and must never be accepted by self-respecting persons as final.

Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all.

To teach superstitions as truth is a most terrible thing.

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Message: Because the others are derived from the one.

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Message: DEAR, MR.PRESIDENT I FORGIVE YOU. I LOVE YOU BOTH VERY MUCH AND,ALWAYS WILL. YOU ARE BOTH A CREDIT TO THE HUMAN RACE. AND,SO IS CHELSEA . YOU AREE THE BEST FIRST FAMILY OF MY LIFETIME. I WOULD LOVE ANOTHER PICTURE OF YOU BOTH. IT WOULD MAKE MY DAY. MY ADDRESS IS 1203 FERNCREST DRIVE JACKSON. MISS. YOURS TRULY, JASON WATSON. GOD BLESS THIS WONDERFUL ADMISTRATION

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Message: Dear Hypatia,

Thanks for the link...but why not post all three quotes from her?

All formal dogmatic religions are fallacious and must never be accepted by self-respecting persons as final.

Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all.

To teach superstitions as truth is a most terrible thing.

Name: Lori

email: loripl@aol.com

Message: Dear Mrs. Clinton: I believe when you said there was a conspiracy against your husband that you were correct. I have watched and listened over this past year and the gnawing feeling that this is about something other than sex and infidelity keep coming back and the fact that Kenneth Star is who he is and leads the kind of life he does, I believe all this much ado about nothing boils down to civil rights, religious beliefs. Just look at the Republican Party and the absence of blacks, Jews, Hispanics, etc. It does seem that the year 2000 will be an interesting election year. My hope is that you do not disregard the American people who truly believe that you would make one sensational President. You are an amazing woman and we need someone like you representing the majority of Americans. We must stop the men of this country from destroying the future for our children. The Republicans keep talking about the children and what it is doing to them. They are the people who created this injustice for all of us. Mrs. Martin Luther King stated on TV in answer to what she believed was behind the problems of your husband and she answered: "I guess some people do not like what he stands for". Well I do and I support you both. Sincerely, Lori Aronoff

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Message: Clinton, Soft on Genocide. Democrats and the media in general are quick to point out that Clinton did wrong but he shouldn’t be impeached. However, it is hard to distinguish were the private man ends and the public one begins. Clinton is paralyzed by his fear of what the public thinks about him and is unwilling to state his true beliefs until he can take a poll. I don’t recall the gentleman’s name, but one of the congressman from Oklahoma said during the impeachment hearing that if politicians make decisions based on polls, or what the American people think, we would still have slavery and women wouldn’t have the vote. Oh yea, the congressman happened to be African American and voted for Clinton’s impeachment! If takes a poll on how people feel about GENOCIDE you can imagine 99.99% would be against it. Yet where was Bill when nearly 800,000 Tutsis where being killed by Hutus in Rwanda. I speculate he was hiding behind his poll that showed Americans where “uncomfortable” with our role in Somalia and the killing of the American Rangers. This in my mind solidifies why Clinton is not a great leader, although he may be a good politician.

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Message: Clinton, Soft on Genocide. Democrats and the media in general are quick to point out that Clinton did wrong but he shouldn’t be impeached. However, it is hard to distinguish were the private man ends and the public one begins. Clinton is paralyzed by his fear of what the public thinks about him and is unwilling to state his true beliefs until he can take a poll. I don’t recall the gentleman’s name, but one of the congressman from Oklahoma said during the impeachment hearing that if politicians make decisions based on polls, or what the American people think, we would still have slavery and women wouldn’t have the vote. Oh yea, the congressman happened to be African American and voted for Clinton’s impeachment! If takes a poll on how people feel about GENOCIDE you can imagine 99.99% would be against it. Yet where was Bill when nearly 800,000 Tutsis where being killed by Hutus in Rwanda. I speculate he was hiding behind his poll that showed Americans where “uncomfortable” with our role in Somalia and the killing of the American Rangers. This in my mind solidifies why Clinton is not a great leader, although he may be a good politician.

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"The road to tyranny, we must remember, begins with the destruction of the truth."
    - Bill Clinton, from a speech at the University of Connecticut, Oct 15, 1997.

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Message: Heard on tv today by democratic senator rockefeller: In the closed door sessions I can be more honest with my fellow senators. Does that mean he can not be honest when the tv cameras are focused on him? Typical democrat.

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Message:    For a QUICK read of the Headline News, click here.     go   January 29, 1999 -- Updated 3:53 a.m. EST, 0853 GMT, @411 1-29-99
Republicans force through their trial road map

In a party-line 54-44 vote, Republicans Thursday pushed through their proposal for proceeding with the deposition phase of the impeachment trial of President Bill Clinton. Under the plan, witnesses will be deposed starting Monday and February 12 has been set as the trial's target end date

The individual depositions of Monica Lewinsky, White House aide Sidney Blumenthal and lobbyist and presidential friend Vernon Jordan will begin Monday and extend through Wednesday. Lewinsky is expected to testify first but the order of all three witnesses has not been finalized. MORE...

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Message: You don't have to be a Clinton fan to wonder why lying about a sexual affair makes you unfit for office while lying about being intimate with bigots does not.
In december newspapers reported that Georgia Congressman Bob Barr, Clinton's attacker-in-chief, had delibered a keynote speech to a white-supremacist group called the Council of Conservative Citizens. Not long after that it came out that Senate majority leader Trent Lott had also been cosy with the C.C.C. When confronted, both Barr and Lott denied that they were aware of the group's racist agenda, though the organization's officers have never made any secret of their views - and Lott's uncle Arnie Watson is a member of its executive board. TIME MAGAZINE, February 1, 1999 page 29

Name: Shanteeka Townsend

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Message: I am a freshman at Morgan State University. My major is Political Science and I feel as if President Clinton has done a great deal for African-Americans. He should not be impoeached because he is doing a damnb good job in his office(pardon my french).He is doing better than any other president before him. I really think you should run for president in the future, you would definately have my vote.

Name: Zippy the Wonder Slug to "Double Standard"

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We hold Bob Barr, Trent Lott and the rest of our people to the same standard the Democrats refuse to hold Clinton to; Obey the Law. You LIE when you say there is a Double Standard. Stop Lying Like Clinton if you don't like lying. Two of our people have resigned. Zero of yours have. We haven't "outed" anyone because it's immoral and irrelevant. The Democrats and their Porno Pushing buddies have gone out of their way to do so. We don't have or want scum like that "helping" us. The Democrats seem to welcome it. Pathetic. Prove Bob Barr or anybody else broke the law and we'll prosecute him in a heartbeat. The Democrats and their "Leader" are the hypocrites here:

"The road to tyranny, we must remember, begins with the destruction of the truth."
    - Bill Clinton, from a speech at the University of Connecticut, Oct 15, 1997.

Bill Clinton and his Democratic, lockstep, partisan Party of Cover-up have not only destroyed the Truth but the Dignity of the Office of President as well. That is Bill Clinton's "Legacy".

Name: Zippy the Wonder Slug

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Democrat Disgrace

London Daily Telegraph
Friday, January 29, 1999 Editorial

Daily Telegraph

THE Republicans could pay a high price for pressing on with the trial of President Clinton in defiance of public opinion, but the Democrats may pay a price themselves, eventually, for voting to truncate the impeachment process for motives of short-term advantage. All but one of the 45 Senate Democrats moved to end the trial without witness testimony, and without attempting to clarify points of fact. Several did so after admitting that the House managers had presented a compelling - if not decisive - case of perjury and obstruction of justice against the President. Mr Clinton's defence lawyers were subsequently able to punch a few holes in the prosecution line, but only by trying to hoodwink the Senate, knowing that this hybrid, quasi-judicial trial precluded a rebuttal phase. They stated, for instance, that Mr Clinton's secretary, Betty Currie, was never a witness, and therefore could not have been a target of "witness tampering", even though they knew full well that she received a subpoena in the Paula Jones lawsuit.

Robert Byrd, the senior Democratic senator, acknowledged that Mr Clinton may indeed be guilty, but justified his sponsorship of the dismissal motion by arguing that his party was never going to provide enough votes for conviction, so why bother to continue? This was an admission that his colleagues were unwilling to pollute their minds with an examination of the facts. To his credit, Senator Russell Feingold of Wisconsin, a former Rhodes scholar and a liberal idealist, refused to participate in this pantomime, saying that it would be "improper to short-ciruit" the constitutional process.

The Democrats have committed themselves to an indefensible position, but not irrevocably. It is a mistake to conclude that the impeachment trial is already over. The pro-Clinton media in the United States, invariably echoed by our own BBC, insist that the next stage of the trial, involving witness depositions, is now an empty exercise, given that the Democrats have registered their intention to acquit. But anything that prolongs the process and draws public attention to the specific facts of the case is a potential threat to the White House. The trial procedure is, of course, heavily stacked in favour of the White House. The prosecution managers have had to abandon their plan to call 15 witnesses, restricting themselves instead to "a pitiful three" - Monica Lewinsky, Vernon Jordan (accused of trying to get her a lucrative job to ensure silence) and White House aide Sidney Blumenthal - as part of a compromise to keep skittish Republican senators on board. (More than 40 witnesses were called in the last impeachment trial, that of President Andrew Johnson in 1868.)

The testimony will be limited to three hours of video-taped questioning by each side: thin gruel, but even this could conceivably be enough to alter the momentum of the trial. All it takes to proceed to the next stage of spontaneous live testimony, on television, is a simple majority vote by the Republicans, and that in turn could lead to further witnesses being called, and further details coming into focus. For the White House, the trial remains dangerously volatile. While acquittal is the most likely outcome, a number of Democrats could yet be persuaded by fresh testimony and shifting opinion to think again.

Name: Minglewood

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Message: This impeachment process is so depressing. The Democrats vote the party line despite the truth. They have no courage, they have no scruples, they are not leaders.

Bill Clinton will go down in history as the most corrupt president ever, and we ain't seen nothin' yet. He has caused so much pain and legal expense for his friends, supports and employees that when he finally leaves office, they will all write books to pay their debts and then we will see the real Bill Clinton.

After the years pass and the real truth comes to the surface, how will these partisan Democrats feel about their support of such a shameless corrupt president?

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Tom DeLay Guilty of Perjury?

Message: I heard on KGO last night that there is an article in The New Republic that Tom DeLay committed perjury in a civil suit. Does anyone know the URL of the The New Republic, we would like to verify that information first hand.

Name: Mission Accepted Zippy

email: Editor to Zippy

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"Prove Bob Barr or anybody else broke the law and we'll prosecute him in a heartbeat"

Name: Zippy the Wonder Slug to Editor

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The article is here.

After a quick read it looks like a lot of accusations by pissed off, former business partners. If, however, the accusations can be backed up in court then they should be! One question not addressed in the article is just exactly why he wasn't prosecuted. As they say, the jury is still out. About all I can do as an individual is send a slew of e-mails and snail mails out to Congress, the Senate and maybe Rush Limbaugh. If any corroborating evidence surfaces I can also post a call for and investigation on this forum (since HE can be prosecuted while still in office). I will point out one small difference; As I understand from the article, and I'll check on this, he was not in office when this alleged perjury took place.

Name: Zippy the Wonder Slug to Editor

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Just sent Rush the URL and asked him to address it on the air. Also, the alleged perjury took place while he WAS in office but about an issue from before he took office. I little more like Clinton. I just hope if he DID do it he doesn't compound the problem by continuing to lie. The honorable thing to do would be to admit it and throw himself on the mercy of the Court (and resign of course). If he DID and DOES will you call for the President to follow his example?

Name: World Leader

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Message: These candidates are real people.

It is time to elect a world leader, and your vote counts.

Here's the scoop on the three leading candidates.

Candidate A associates with ward heelers and consults with astrologers. He's had two mistresses. He chain smokes and drinks 8 to 10 martinis a day.

Candidate B was kicked out of office twice, sleeps until noon, used opium in college and drinks a quart of brandy every evening.

Candidate C is a decorated war hero. He's a vegetarian, doesn't smoke, drinks an occasional beer and hasn't had any illicit affairs.

Which of these candidates is your choice?? Choose one and then scroll down.















Candidate A is Franklin D. Roosevelt

Candidate B is Winston Churchill

Candidate C is Adolph Hitler

Name: LVD to Editor

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Message: I heard on KGO last night that there is an article in The New Republic that Tom DeLay committed perjury in a civil suit. Does anyone know the URL of the The New Republic, we would like to verify that information first hand.

Jeepers, I thought the Editor was against innuendo and empty accusations. I guess that only applied if Republicans are accusing Democrats. To quote Mr. Rogers: “Can you say Hy-poc-ri-sy” “ I knew that you could”

-LVD

Name: Editor to LVD

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Message: What innuendo? We were clear about not knowing the truth and that's why we put a question mark????? We also said "we heard" and then asked if anyone could verify? We did not accuse we merely inquired. Come on LVD you always lose your credibility by jumping before you think.

Name: Editors to Zippy the Most Honored Wonderful Slug

email: editor@hillary.org

Message: Thank you so much for the New Republic article, and also for the link. We will keep their link on file for future reference.

Name: LVD to Editor

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When confronted, both Barr and Lott denied that they were aware of the group's racist agenda, though the organization's officers have never made any secret of their views

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Name: LVD to Editor

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Message: “What innuendo? We were clear about not knowing the truth and that's why we put a question mark????? We also said "we heard" and then asked if anyone could verify? We did not accuse we merely inquired.”

That’s funny – that is almost word-for-word my statement on the Danny Williams story yet you called me a liar and said you were going to banish me for Hillary-Forum-land. Feels a bit different when the shoe is on the other foot? (that is what I was trying to illustrate – thank you for supporting my position on the Danny Williams story and proving my point)

-LVD

Name: Witch Hazel to Zippy

email: witches@broom.com

Message: Dear Zippy

You have earned my respect with your posting the link to the DeLay article in the New Republic. It shows a great deal of integrity and guts! We, the LibDems, really don't want to continut the "outing" of politicians in this manner, because we understand that people are people and we all act in our own best self interest at times.

All we want is for the House Managers of the Impeachment Trial to stop be so sanctimonious and to stop trying to make the American people conform to their ideas of morality. You keep arguing that it is a legal case about perjury and obstruction of justice, but our legal system routinely overlooks private transgressions in private, sexual matters.

If the Republicans had not been "after" Clinton for so many years, and they just happened to discover Monica in the normal course of events, I think you would see a different reaction from the voters in the US. But it is so obvious that there has been a long-standing campaign to "get" Clinton on ANYTHING they could that we are all fed up with the whole thing, especially the hypocritical behavior of the key Republicans.

But, bottom line is, Zippy, you are an honorable man.

Name: Editor to LVD

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Message: LVD, it's obvious you have not read the article in the New Republic that Zippy so kindly provided for us. Go read all about Tom Delay and then come back to this forum and apologize. Reading the information in that article DeLay is not a very honorable character, and one heck of a hypocrite to say the least.

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Name: Editor to LVD

email: Bob Barr, Trent Lott and the CCC

Message: LVD, you need glasses! I did not write that article about the CCC. It appears in this weeks' TIME MAGAZINE, February 1, 1999 page 29 . Go argue with TIME and stop insulting me over what other people write. Stop jumping to conclusions before you even read the whole message and see who is given the credit for it. The last time you time you insulted me over an article written by MSNBC, even though I gave MSNBC the credit. Take a little time out to read properly and think before you fire off your insults at me.

Name: LVD to Editor

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LVD, it's obvious you have not read the article in the New Republic that Zippy so kindly provided for us. Go read all about Tom Delay and then come back to this forum and apologize. Reading the information in that article DeLay is not a very honorable character, and one heck of a hypocrite to say the least.

Jeepers, you change the subject with BLINDING speed. You stated earlier in the forum “Tom DeLay Guilty of Perjury?” That is pure unadulterated innuendo. DeLay has not be indicted on charges of perjury – let alone “guilty of perjury”. The point is simple – I relay an unconfirmed story and you call me a liar and make a VERY big deal out of it. You relay an unconfirmed story and it is OK – no sweat. Can you say “double standard” – I knew that you could. (Notice I am not defending Delay – if he gets indicted for perjury and convicted, throw him out of office – I am pointing out the extremely inconsistent editorial policy of this forum). What amazes me is that – based on the press stories about Clinton, you NEVER said that Clinton was not very an honorable character or one heck of a hypocrite yet when you read one single story about Delay you assume it is all correct. There are hundred of stories about Clinton – yet you say they are empty accusations or innuendo until proven in court but you are saying Delay is guilty until proven innocent. Editor, even you most seem the glaring inconsistency in you positions?

-LVD

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Message: LVD, you need glasses! I did not write that article about the CCC. It appears in this weeks' TIME MAGAZINE,

The hypocrisy is from those that draw unsupportable conclusions. Be it you are some bozo writing for Time – neither of you can support the claim that Lott or Barr lied about the CCC – it is empty innuendo. Not to mention I know Barr is on record denouncing the CCC separatist stance. Editor- you know that but you couldn’t resist a stab of innuendo at the Republicans. This dog won’t hunt. This is empty innuendo crap – anything to defend your man. Guess what – if somehow they can ACTUALLY prove Lott or Barr is or was lying than they should be thrown out of office – just like Clinton (I am consistent – are you?). Do you actually think the actions of Lott or Barr has ANY bearing on the actions of Clinton? That is silly! If they all commit perjury than throw them all (Clinton, Lott, and Barr) out of office. Are you actually saying “If Barr or Lott lied than Clinton should get away with lying”? Ponderous!

-LVD

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Message: Take a little time out to read properly and think before you fire off your insults at me.

What is this bologna – I did not “insult”. Jeepers, every time someone points out a flow in your logic you start whining about people “insulting” you. Nobody is insulting you (you most have a tissue paper thin ego). Understand a very important point – disagreeing with your positions is not in anyway an insult!

-LVD

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Message: stop trying to make the American people conform to their ideas of morality

Ideas of morality – like perjury and obstruction of justice is against the law. Is that what you mean?

You keep arguing that it is a legal case about perjury and obstruction of justice, but our legal system routinely overlooks private transgressions in private, sexual matters.

When? Where? Give names and dates. Hell, Clarence Thomas was supposed to have made a comment about a pubic hair on a coke can and mentioned reference to a character in a porno movie and that was enough for the LibDems to say the man was an enemy of the women and not fit of office (he did lie or obstruct justice). Do you have a short selective memory Witch Hazel?

Guess what Democrats – Guess what is the fastest moving statistic in the polls? That’s right – the Democrat Party disapproval rating (dropping like a stone). Keep up the stone wall against justice and the double standard and see where is gets you. When it is all over the Democrats will still be the party that supports perjury, says it is OK for a married man to use an employee for misogynistic sexual servicing, and the party of Larry “Porn King” Flynt. It is not looking so good for Democrat – you guys abandoned everything to support one man and it will (and is ) coming back to haunt you.

-LVD

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Message: every time someone points out a flow...make that a flaw!

Name: Vernon to Witch Hazel

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Message: You are completely wrong, which is typical of you liberal democrats. NO ONE is out to "get" anyone. bill clintong started all this with HIS actions and got caught. As for overlooking private sexual transgressions, all I can say is bullcrap. Check out Travis Air Force Base(I think that's the one). There is someone on trial out there for private sexual transgressions. He was having sex with a subordinate(consensual at that), got caught, lied about sex under oath, tried to obstruct justice by getting both his wife and the subordinate to lie about it, and faces the possibility of 23 years in jail for doing EXACTLY THE SAME THING as bill clintong, who is his commander-in-chief.

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Message: The article about Tom DeLay is obviously a pathetic attempt by democrats to draw the attention away from bill clintong. Also, it states that "legal experts note that such cases are rarely prosecuted." OH? What about Barbara Batalino? What about the 400-700 cases this administration's justice department has prosecuted for this same thing? What about the 100-120 people who are physically in jail because of lying under oath?

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Message: I heard on KGO last night that there is an article in The New Republic that Tom DeLay committed perjury in a civil suit. Does anyone know the URL of the The New Republic, we would like to verify that information first hand.

I heard on TV today that there was a report by Matt Drudge that President Clinton comitted perjury in a civil suit. Does anyone know if witnesses will testify in the Senate, we would like to verify that information first hand.

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Name: Gary

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Message: After what the GOP (Get Our President) has done over the years to get the Clintons, if I ever mention possibly voting for a Republican someone should just shoot me in the head, because I will have already lost my mind. That jerk Rush and all his worshipers, wanabes, and the entire GOP has been spewing pure hatred for years, and I truly hope they pay dearly for it in the next severl elections. Don't stop thinking about tomorrow, President and First Lady.

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Message: When I was in the NAM 68-69 YOUR HUSBAND WAS IN EUROPE& RUSSIA HELPING TO FORM ANTI AMERICAN DEMONSTRATIONS AGAINST MY COUNTRY , MY COUNTRY ,WE WRE CALLED AND AND WE WENT,SOME OF US DID NOT.BUT THE ONES THAT DID BELIEVED AND BELEIVED THAT WHAT THEY WERE TRAINED TO DO WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO.TRAINED BY OUR AMERICAN GOVERNEMENT!GOVERNEMENT! NOT BILL CLINTON!---FREEDOM ALWAYS HAS ITS PRICE! ----THE REST IS BULLSHIT!

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Message: Dave Martines,

What we have in this once great country is a cancer in the embodyment of Bill and Hillary Clinton...We have a massive left leaning media...Fact...89% of the Washington Press core voted for Clinton...(polls work both ways Editor)

Public Opinion is swayed by what they hear Every Day....hear a lie enough times and it becomes truth.

A "vast right wing conspiracy"....Hmmmmm...seems the opposite is true.......Why Tom Brokaw is a BIG Supporter of The Far left "People for the American Way"....How do I know?....His name is very prominent in their Annual Report, and he is just one of too many to mention.

Isn't it strange...Brokaw threatened to resign if NBC airs Lisa Myers interview with Jane Doe#5...Juanita Broaddrick.

Anita Hill was front and center immediately...wasn't she!

There is also a new Zogby Poll out stating that 53% of women in this country take the Pro-Life position On Abortion...Have you seen it on the main stream "News"?....Probably not.....

Have no fear though...If the nation can survive this sickness for a few more years, The "Light of Truth" will shine brightly through the rapidly expanding internet.

Truth is powerful and the world wide web is like candle piercing the darkness. The DRUDGE REPORT is a prime example of what is to come. Matt Drudge...alone!....exposed this cancer in the White House, as the numbers of average Americans accessing the WEB increases 10 fold by the year 2000...the nightmare will be but a sick memory.

SMILE!Just like the RENAISSANCE....the DARK AGES will succumb the the LIGHT of truth!

IT IS NIGHT TIME RIGHT NOW, BUT......MORNING IS COMING!

Liberty will shine again,

Robert

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Message: I am happy to learn that 89% of the media are liberals. I will tell all my liberals friends to stop complaining that the media lean toward the right. Thank you for enlightening us all.

I am also happy to learn that "Brokaw threatened to resign if NBC airs Lisa Myers interview with Jane Doe#5...Juanita Broaddrick." We do not want to hear one thing more about Clinton's sex life. Six years is enough. Besides, Juanita has given contradictory evidence under oath and appears to be an unstable person.

Then you tell us, Robert, that the "Zogby Poll states that 53% of women in this country take the Pro-Life position On Abortion..." Robert, just go out into the street and ask the first 100 women you see this question. Then you will know the truth for yourself. Women do not want the Big Government owning their wombs. We want less government not more. How much more invasive can a government get if it owns a woman's womb and dictates what she can and cannot do with it. We want big government out of our bedrooms, credit cards, books we read, our religions, and definitely, but definitely out of our wombs. I do NOT believe the Zogby Poll.

However, I agree with you that the "Light of Truth" will shine brightly through the rapidly expanding internet. It has already shone brightly through the Internet. It is shining brightly on this forum today. The "Light of Truth" has taken away the leadership role from the Republican Congress and has bequeathed it upon the Liberals. Get used to it Robert, the Liberals shall lead the way into the next millenium. We are the "chosen people" not because of what we did, but because of what the GOP did NOT do. The GOP, instead of leading this nation, frittered away its opportunity by obsessing itself in a six-year witch-hunt to topple Clinton.

"Vengeance is mine saith the Lord," but the GOP took it upon themselves to deliver vengeance like never before in history. Obsession with ANYTHING, good or bad is wrong, but obsession with toppling our twice-elected president against the will of the people is insanity.

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In response to your statement, "The article about Tom DeLay is obviously a pathetic attempt by democrats to draw the attention away from bill clintong." I hate to break the bad news to you but the New Republic is a right wing publication, big time! Have you read the article?

We liberals have discussed it among ourselves as to why it first came out in a very conservative publication? I have not seen it yet in the main media. Get used to it, Vermon, you guys have perjurers on your side too.

The real truth about your so called morality that you have been spouting for six years has come head-on against an obvious demand for action. If, indeed one of your guys is a perjurer what are you going to do about it? Huh? You took our guy on a six-year witch hunt and spent millions trying to get him. Now that one of our guy's worst persecutors, DeLay, who would not compromise on any level, is caught in his own web, what are YOU going to do? If you do nothing you are just another GOP hypocrite. We are waiting Vermon... what are you going to do when one of your warriors commits exactly the same sin??? Show us the way, Vermon.. Show us immoral liberals the way..... Show us the color of your morality... Show us what you do with YOUR perjurers, or forever hold your peace and admit your hypocrisy.

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"Be it you are some bozo writing for Time – neither of you can support the claim that Lott or Barr lied about the CCC"

Thank you for posting Barr's disavowal of the CCC making the excuse that he did not know what they stood for, even thought the CCC never made a secret of it. However I am still waiting for Trent Lott's disavowal of this organization. Would Trent Lott be prepared to state, under oath, that he was never involved with the CCC and did not know what they stood for? We are waiting ......

When will Trent Lott issue his disavowal of the CCC? We are waiting for you Trent........

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Today, on the PBS Women's talking head program (forgot the name) - a LIBERAL group reluctantly reported the results of their poll - 54% of WOMEN say abortion should be illegal except in extreme cases (the exact wording) and 58% of the WOMEN polled said the Christian Coalition is a positive force in politics. The facts are clear - MOST women do not hold the left-wing extremist views of the Editor and the main stream liberal media elite. That show on PBS is dominated by the liberal minority and they were all scrambling for excuses.

We want less government not more.

You do understand that the above statement is the antithesis of Liberal Democrat!

The Liberal minority will fade completely away by summer - their only issue is "Save Bill at all costs".

There are numerous citations in the Washington Post and other establishment media concerning Barr and Lott's denials regarding their association with the CCC.

…and NONE of them constitute perjury because that would require MIND-READING

Thank you for posting Barr's disavowal of the CCC making the excuse that he did not know what they stood for, even thought the CCC never made a secret of it

Can't you see the fallacious basis for your argument - just because they did not make a secret of it does not mean the Barr understood every minute detail of their stances. The only way you can prove the slanderous statement is the READ BARRS MIND. Go to the CCC web page - you will find that they are not a raving hate-group and that you have to dig really deep to undercover their somewhat unseemly views. BTW - they are NOT anti-black, they are pro white and anti northern liberal (whatever that is). I have heard lots of unsupportable slander about the CCC - I do not support their views but much of what is said about them on this forum is lies. The CCC is a perfectly legal tiny organization that - as far as I know - has never been accused of doing anything wrong. There is nothing wrong with speaking before a group of Americans. The most important point is what did Barr and Lott speak about? - They spoke of the Conservative political agenda, nothing about the CCC agenda. There you have it - this bogus ad homien attack on Barr and Lott is more baseless liberal guano-spin.

. Would Trent Lott be prepared to state, under oath, that he was never involved with the CCC and did not know what they stood for?

You liberal make me ill sometimes - you so against the constitution. In this country we have the right to associate with whomever we like. The above statement in the essence of McCarthyism - making someone take an oath as to who they may or may not have associated with or been in the same room with. Editor - I expect more from you - you are starting to sound like a true liberal that supports the totalitarian rule of government.

When will Trent Lott issue his disavowal of the CCC? We are waiting for you Trent........

Editor, you are very hypocritical. So Trent Lott is guilty until prove innocent and Bill "weasel boy" Clinton is innocent even if proven guilty. My advice: strive for balance.

-LVD

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Message: By Jackie Judd & Chris Vlasto ABCNEWS.com W A S H I N G T O N, Jan. 29 — ABCNEWS has learned that a private investigator has become a key witness in the investigation of whether someone tried to scare Kathleen Willey into remaining silent about allegations President Clinton made an unwanted sexual advance.

Things are not looking good for the president. Conviction seem impossible and not it is not out of the question. BTW - Editors, this was not consensual sex.

-LVD

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STARR WEIGHS WHETHER TO INDICT SITTING PRESIDENT

01/29/99 06:09 UTC -- Independent counsel Kenneth Starr has concluded that he has the constitutional authority to seek a grand jury indictment of President Clinton before he leaves the White House, says a new report set for publication on Sunday.

"Starr and his prosecutors have actively considered whether to ask a grand jury here to indict Clinton," the NEW YORK TIMES is planning to report in a Page One, the DRUDGE REPORT has learned.

TIMES investigator Don Van Natta Jr. pushes details: "Starr and his prosecutors have had no communications with the House managers or the White House about the possibility of including the president's future criminal jeopardy in negotiations over a censure of the president."

Van Natta quotes "associates" of Starr throughout his story.

These associates emphasized that Starr had not decided whether, or when, but "neither the outcome of the Senate trial nor the public's wishes expressed in opinion polls would affect his decision.

Developing...

Name: Editor to LVD

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Message: LVD, you must pay attention. I did not accuse Lott and Barr of perjury or slander, I accused them of denying their involvement in the CCC until the evidence was too strong. Now Barr says he did not know what they really stood for, which is hard to believe, but at least he has disavowed them as they were asked to do by (--------) in the GOP who made a formal announcement that the GOP has investigated the CCC and demanded that their members disavow them. That was a GOP decision, not mine. Trent Lott has not disavowed them.

Now anybody in this country can belong to any organization they want to, but if they deny that they belong they are lying. If they deny that under oath then it's perjury.

So stop defending the CCC because the GOP has officially rejected them, and it behooves you to follow their advice.

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Message: educator, you pathetic little jerk, no one on the conservative side has lied under oath that I know of and at least two people have resigned to keep you liberal idiots happy.I'll ask you the same question, what are you going to do when someone perjures himself in your party? Huh, you jerk, what are you going to do? Are you going to let clintong off simply because he is prez? As for hypocrisy, I am not the hypocrite, you are. EVERY democrat senator knows clintong lied under oath and committed perjury, yet you are willing to let him go. Why?

Name: Fabius to FreeSpeech

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Message: Hey FS, enough of the hatred will ya? The right has some who do hate blacks and Jews and it is evil. Any time you bring Christians into the mix, you are being evil as well. It is contrary to Jesus Christ and His teachings for His followers to hate anyone, therefore, they cannot be Christian (which means Christ in you). Understand? One professing to be something does not make them so. The bible is clear on this matter in that Jesus Himself tells what will happen to those professing to be His followers and doing evil instead. It is called blasphemy of the Holy Spirit and it is unpardonable. To credit Christ with evil deeds is automatic condemnation. WOE to them who dies before repenting of such evil. He speaks to Christian or religious leaders who hold up their own good deeds as reason to go into His presence, but he tells these leaders to depart from him and go into eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. Many of today's "christian" leaders will fall into this category as their teachings and lives have already condemned them.

The death toll for your policies and belief system are credited as such:
35,000,000 babies
Euthanasia is just beginning its slaughter
Inner city gang violence and killing of each other - economic slavery by democrats
Sexual "freedom" and immorality leading to the epidemic of STD's and AIDS! What is that number?

Don't spew any more vile hatred about Republicans and put them in line with Jesus. Christians happen to be part of the Republican Party AT PRESENT because they do not openly advocate the slaughter of babies with the passion and demonic human sacrifice like demokrats. As Henry Hyde said last week and I paraphrase, "there are some things worth risking my office for. Opposing abortion, defense of the country and defense of the rule of law." Alas he will be remembered as a true statesman while precedent clinton will be remembered for scandal. Nice the media kept his historic speeches quiet. Even democratic pundits admit his place in history is beyond saving from embarassment and shame. You already lost FS.

P.S. Give truth a try. You are ranting and raving to a small audience that love and live by the lies that you spew. You ooze with hatred and you need help - for this same Jesus you speak against with venom is your creator and you will be given over to "strong delusion," if you haven't been already.

True hatred of the blacks is those that have taught and equipped blacks to perpetuate their own slavery and fatherlessness.

Name: Fabius to Free Speech

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Message: Before you continue to tag anybody right of baby slaughter as nazi's you should read the following Confession of Faith of Cecil Rhodes. He is the namesake of the Rhodes Scholarship, of which your precedent is one. He was hand picked in his youth for his destiny. Hear what guided his beliefs and road to destroying the United States. Let's see if you can admit HE is the true Nazi. But alas, you cannot defame your god.

Rhodes Confession of Faith below next post.

Name: Fabius to FreeSpeech

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Message: Rhodes Confession of Faith
As taken from Lord Milner's papers at Oxford University located at Mss. Afr.tr. #17

It often strikes a man to enquire what is the chief good in life; to one the thought comes that it is a happy marriage, to another great wealth, and as each seizes on his idea, for that he more or less works for the rest of his existence. To myself thinking over the same question the wish came to render myself useful to my country. I then asked myself how could I and after reviewing the various methods I have felt that at the present day we are actually limiting our children and perhaps bringing into the world half the human beings we might owing to the lack of country for them to inhabit that if we had retained America there would at the present moment be millions more of English living. I contend that we are the finest race in the world and that the more of the world we inhabit the better it is for the human race. Just fancy those parts that are at present inhabited by the most dispicable specimen of human beings (what people is he referring to?) what all alteration there would be if they were brought under Anglo-Saxon influence, look again at the extra employment a new country added to our dominions gives. I contend that every acre added to our territory means in the future birth to some more of the English race who otherwise would not be brought into existence. Added to this the absorption of the greater portion of the world under our rule simply means the end of all wars, at this moment had we not lost America I believe we could have stopped the present Russo-Turkish war by merely refusing money and supplies. Having these ideas what scheme could we think of to forward this object? (Rhodes Scholars in America perhaps?)

The document continues, though the opening words are telling of the whole and I would be glad to post the rest for those that want to read on. The information is damning and cannot be denied to those who are truthful. You are being warned each and every day where the threat to America is dems......it is in your party, the party of the hammer and sickle.

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but at least he has disavowed them as they were asked to do by (--------) in the GOP who made a formal announcement that the GOP has investigated the CCC and demanded that their members disavow them.

Even further proof of Right Wing fairness, THE DRUDGE REPORT even gave me this link about the Tom DeLay mess. (Well, DRUDGE isn't really Right Wing, he just gets accused of it because there are so many Left Wing scandals...)

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Alice Starr Disses Hillary!
Read All About it in the Ladies Home Journal!
Oh dear, now Alice Starr has gotten into the act! In an interview with the Ladies Home Journal she took the opportunity to diss Hillary. How unseemly can a person get?

Read all about it
In the Ladies Home Journal
Cutting edge - Breaking news!!!!
more on the Clinton saga

"Hillary has had many"
Alice said,to the Ladies Home Journal
but I, a paragon of morality
"have only had only one in the past 20 years"
only one
while Hillary, fickle wife of
Clinton-the-perjurer,
the adulterer, the philanderer,
- changes them constantly!
How dare she?

Disgusting and immoral
She pays for that, but I do not
Morally superior is my gain
Kenny and I, our religious mission
-to the end of the earth we will go
Our brand of morality will prevail

Why change them on every whim
when only one will satisfy?
In twenty years I had no other
So good it was then - now better than ever

But you never keep just one
Your selfish desires never sated
Always wanting more and more and more
moremoremoremore....ohhhhh!
Your hairstyles Hillary
How inappropriate of you
-to change them at your selfish whim
Unlike me and my superior morality
For twenty years exactly
-have I known no other
One hairstyle is all I need
my family values to satisfy

Name: Editors to All

email: Has Kenny gone totally nuts?

Message: Kenneth Starr says he is going to indict our President? Has he gone nuts? "Power corrupts, but absolute power corrupts absolutely."

Does Crazy Kenny think he is the 101st Senator that he can insert himself in the Impeachment process? I sincerely hope the GOP are not behind this because if the are they will have Civil War on their hands which they have absolutely no hope of winning and will just enrage the people.

If Krazy Kenny does go ahead and indict the President, Clinton will, of course, ignore the supboena. The GOP will have to send the men in white jackets to take Kenny to the insane asylum. Is there anyone on this board that supports Krazy Kenny's latest move?

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Message: Rhodes Confession of Faith
As taken from Lord Milner's papers at Oxford University located at Mss. Afr.tr. #17

It often strikes a man to enquire what is the chief good in life; to one the thought comes that it is a happy marriage, to another great wealth, and as each seizes on his idea, for that he more or less works for the rest of his existence. To myself thinking over the same question the wish came to render myself useful to my country. I then asked myself how could I and after reviewing the various methods I have felt that at the present day we are actually limiting our children and perhaps bringing into the world half the human beings we might owing to the lack of country for them to inhabit that if we had retained America there would at the present moment be millions more of English living. I contend that we are the finest race in the world and that the more of the world we inhabit the better it is for the human race. Just fancy those parts that are at present inhabited by the most dispicable specimen of human beings (what people is he referring to?) what all alteration there would be if they were brought under Anglo-Saxon influence, look again at the extra employment a new country added to our dominions gives. I contend that every acre added to our territory means in the future birth to some more of the English race who otherwise would not be brought into existence. Added to this the absorption of the greater portion of the world under our rule simp

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Name: Fabius to Editors

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Message: I apologize for the repeated posts. My bookmark somehow posts my last message each and every time I visit. Is it something on my end or on yours?

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Name: Dave and Matt

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Message: We are frenchies fans so translate us! Hilary t'es cocue mais nous on t'aime quand mème ! (surtout ta fille qu'on peut voir nue sur le site web du RPR : http://www/rpr.fr/

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Message: That is on your end Fabius. Go to Edit Bookmarks in your Bookmark File and under Bookmark Properties delete all of the extraneous material after the actual address of this site in the space called Location (URL). You bookmarked this page while you had a message either posting or ready to post and your browser cannot differentiate between what you wanted to bookmark and what you actually bookmarked. That is a common error on this site.

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Message: Translate yourselves dudes. This is an English speaking site.

Name: Editor Dave & Matt from France

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The Drudge Report for today, January 31, 1999 (located at www.drudgereport.com) references the Clinton death list. For the information of all of the loyal readers of this site...I will print this list for you once again in its entirety. I find references to 46 suspicious deaths of individuals associated with Clinton.

HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO BE BILL CLINTON'S FRIEND ?

The following is a list of dead people connected with Bill Clinton: