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WASHINGTON, Dec. 20 — President Bill Clinton’s job approval rating reached new heights in the wake of the impeachment vote Saturday, according to the latest NBC News poll. The poll showed Clinton’s approval rating rose from 68 percent in a similar poll Tuesday to 72 percent after the House passed two articles of impeachment against him.
THE NBC POLL also found that 62 percent of the respondents said he should serve out his term — up 11 percentage points from Tuesday’s survey. The number of those who said the president should resign dropped 10 points from 44 percent to 34 percent. The poll of 510 adults had a margin of error of plus or minus 4.5 percent. Clinton also held his own in a CBS/New York Times poll conducted Saturday. Sixty-six percent of the respondents thought it would be better for the country if Clinton did not resign, compared with 69 percent before the vote. The same 661 adults were interviewed last week before the House vote and gave almost identical answers on the question of resignation. Interviewers in the CBS/New York Times poll found that 63 percent of the respondents would prefer it if a compromise, like a censure or a fine, were worked out instead of holding a trial in the Senate. However 57 percent said they thought that the Senate would not compromise on the issue and that there would be a trial. The margin of error for the CBS/New York Times poll was plus or minus 4 percentage points. After the vote, the president and his aides said they hoped to find a “constitutional and fair” means to end his predicament short of a trial in the Senate. He also vowed not to resign, pledging to keep working “until the last hour of the last day” of his term. MSNBC..
Pushing back on GOP coup d’etat
MSNBC NEWS -
by Eric Alterman
Dec. 19 — The crisis is finally upon us. President Clinton has been impeached. The Republicans have their victory. The term “high crimes and misdemeanors” has been degraded to include lying about sex. The most serious sanction in our constitutional system has been reduced to a weapon of partisan warfare.
"If the Republicans want to commit political suicide by pursuing the path that has destroyed their two most recent leaders, well then, that’s their right. But they cannot be allowed to drag down the republic with them."
The impeachment vote is being driven by the ascendant radical wing of the party that, under Tom DeLay’s guidance, controls its fund-raising. Those who dare to buck DeLay and his crusade risk inspiring a well-funded conservative challenger without any help from the national party. Those who vote his way have two years to try to make the country forget, or to hide behind the excuse that the impeachment vote was not designed to remove the president, but only to signal the seriousness of his crimes and let the Senate decide the matter.
."Now is the time for all good men and women to come to the aid of their Constitution." MSNBC NEWS ...MORE....
No Deal for Censure -
Trial Better Option For President
White House officials favor a trial rather than a censure. A trial and an acquittal would spare Clinton the scathing criticism of a censure and enhance his standing while badly wounding the Republicans. A trial might be a better option because the burden of proof would be on the president’s prosecutors.
TRIAL MAY BE ONLY OPTION:
The White House has refused to publicly embrace any of the compromise
proposals put forward by former Senate Republican Leader Bob Dole and former
Presidents Gerald Ford and Jimmy Carter, who have called on Clinton to admit he committed perjury.
And now, as part of its tough new political and legal strategy, some officials are suggesting that compromise might not be possible. “You cannot conclude from ... these efforts that we’re going to agree to an admission to anything that the president does not believe he did,” said one legal adviser. “It may well be that a trial is the only way to resolve this issue.”
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Message: Bill and Hilary are both power hungry liars who will do whatever the hell they like. To hell with American ideals of fair play. I endorse Carville's tactics of muck raking. Hiring Larry Flynt was a great idea. Now we will know how deep fagotry and other vices run in the Nations Capital. Keep up the good work Bill and Hilary !
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More proof of Democrat/White House hypocrisy
Seven-year-old bias suit costs writer White House job (from Sept. 1997)
The Seattle Times WASHINGTON - If all had gone according to plan, Texas writer Joseph Holley would have gone
to work today, penning speeches for first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton for an annual salary of
$90,000.
The good news came last month in a phone call from Melanne Verveer, chief of staff for the first
lady. With a job offer in hand, Holley quickly set about moving his wife and family from Austin to
Washington, breaking one lease and signing another, quitting his part-time job as a journalism
teacher, arranging new schools for his children.
The bad news came a week later. This time the call came from White House counsel Charles F.C.
Ruff, who told Holley to forget about his move. The job offer was revoked, Holley said Ruff told
him, after White House officials learned that Holley had been the defendant seven years earlier in a
sexual-discrimination and harassment lawsuit.
Holley's then-employer, the San Diego Tribune, settled the case brought by a writer Holley once
supervised, with no admission of wrongdoing. Holley said the woman's charges were "absurd" and
"fiction." But he said Ruff told him that the White House decision was final and that he would have
no chance to explain his version.
The result is that a decision designed to avert controversy is causing it nonetheless.
Holley's friends, some well-connected in journalism and liberal politics, say the Clinton White
House is setting a standard of guilt by accusation that the president - himself the subject of
contested sexual-harassment charges - could never clear.
Holley's accuser, San Diego journalist Lynne Carrier, said the first lady's office prudently reversed
an appointment that in time it would have come to regret.
White House officials acknowledge the episode is a window into the sensitive matters that often
complicate the hiring process in an era when once-routine appointments can become
controversies.
Privately, White House officials say they were in no position to sort through the allegations and
denials at the heart of the controversy. They said Holley, 51, hurt his case by not mentioning the
episode during interviews - including a nearly hourlong session with Hillary Clinton - until after a
job offer was extended.
For more than four years beginning in 1986, Holley was editorial-page editor for the San Diego
Tribune (which later merged with the San Diego Union). He left the paper before the settlement of
the sex-discrimination case, for reasons that both he and his former employers say were not
related to Carrier's accusations. Since then he has lived in Austin, writing magazine articles and
political speeches. He was on Ann Richards' staff when she was governor of Texas.
Both Holley and White House officials agree that Verveer's job offer was understood to be
contingent on his passing the routine background checks known as "vetting." In a common White
House practice, the first lady's office wanted him to start right away, with his job to be permanent
once vetting was approved.
Holley said he expected the San Diego episode - in which Carrier accused him of allowing a "male
locker room" work environment, and recited in lurid detail alleged instances of coarse sexual
comments by Holley and other male co-workers - to be raised during his background checks. But
he said he was surprised that he did not have a chance to explain the case or offer his denials.
"I was more than ready, even eager, if this thing had come to trial years ago to answer these
charges point by point, and I am still ready to do that," he said.
Yet Holley was mild in his criticism of the White House. "I have been around politics enough to
know these things happen," he said. "I wish it had been handled differently."
Other supporters are more severe in their comments.
"My personal opinion is he got the shaft," said Greg Curtis, editor of the Texas Monthly magazine,
for which Holley has written.
Paula Minihan, who works for a Texas advertising firm and worked with Holley on a report for
the Texas Land Office, described him as "one of the finest, most sensitive" people she has met,
and finds the allegations in the San Diego case implausible. She said she is angered that the charges
sank his White House job before he could answer them.
"A lot of us voted for the Clintons because we believed them" despite Whitewater allegations and
the Paula Corbin Jones sexual-harassment case, Minihan said. "Obviously, they weren't able to
afford Joe Holley that same trust."
Under the settlement, Carrier, whom the paper accused of having an uncontrolled temper, was
paid $201,000 in exchange for her agreement to leave the paper. Holley and another co-worker,
while not admitting her charges, wrote identical letters in which they said they acknowledged that
"things can be misinterpreted and misconstrued" and that "I am sorry for what happened in your
time with the paper."
Holley said the allegations in Carrier's suit fell into two categories. Some were remarks he
considered innocuous - such as a suggestion that he and his colleagues take Carrier to a gay bar -
that were taken out of context. Others - such as Carrier's accusation that he rubbed his head
against her breast or initiated unwanted conversations about sexual fantasies - he said are "simply
false."
Carrier said that her legal complaint "speaks for itself," and that "although he says he's blameless,
he did have to write a letter of apology."
Holley said he considered the letter "perfunctory," and not an admission of wrongdoing.
Harold Fuson Jr., vice president and legal counsel for Copley Press, owner of the San Diego
Tribune, said a desire to avoid the expense of trial led to the settlement. The paper reimbursed
Holley for the $1,000 he paid Carrier as part of the settlement, Fuson said. He said the paper's
internal review showed Holley did nothing wrong.
"Frankly, I think Joe's the victim of a modern form of blacklisting," Fuson said, "and I don't think
it's a lot different from the 1950s version."
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Happy new year, une bien meilleure année... chaleureuses pensées du Limousin !!
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Message: British Papers Having a Field Day Today: Now Clinton's DNA faces paternity test
UK Independent
In a case of life imitating art imitating life, Bill Clinton's DNA was back in the news
yesterday with reports that a 13-year-old Arkansas boy is waiting to find out whether
what his mother has always told him is true: that he is the son of the President of the
United States.
A picture of the child suggests that a relationship cannot be ruled out. The boy, Danny
Williams, has been brought up by his mother, Bobbie Ann, who is black and was
working as a prostitute at the time Danny was conceived.
According to the Star, a tabloid with a track record for Whitehouse exposes, the boy
has had a sample of his DNA taken for testing. This could be matched against
information about the sample given by President Clinton in the Monica Lewinsky case
last summer.
The Danny Williams story was given a perverse kind of credence by Joe Klein's novel,
Primary Colors, and last year's film of the same name, whose main character is based on
Mr Clinton.
Primary Colors has the rumour of an illegitimate black child surfacing in the presidential
campaign, and outlines the attempts made to suppress the information. In the novel, the
child's paternity is left ambiguous.
Klein - who originally denied writing the book - covered the 1991-92 campaign and
many of the details described in the novel, which circulated only as rumours in the early
Nineties, have turned out to be true.
The Danny Williams story - like many of the less savoury allegations about Mr
Clinton's past - has been consistently shunned by the mainstream media in the United
States.
The new development - the child's DNA test - was reported only by the Star and
another tabloid, the New York Post. It was also reported by the Internet "gossip", Matt
Drudge, whose reports on the Monica Lewinsky case were overwhelmingly vindicated.
True or false, the revival of the Danny Williams story, days before the Senate decides
whether to try Mr Clinton after his impeachment by the House of Representatives over
the Lewinsky affair, was unlikely to be mere chance.
The question was whether it represented opportunism on the part of the Star, a last
desperate attempt by Mr Clinton's enemies to smear him at a cruc
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Looks like Elizabeth Dole may have decided to run after all!
Overheard: "This time, instead of a Bob Dull, we could have a real pineapple."
September 2, 1997
John F. Harris (Washington Post)
My husband, George Manzano-Small, will be 85 on January 15th, 1999 and I was
wondering if you would be kind enough to send him a birthday greeting with your
signature. It would truly mean to world to him. He is such a fan of yours.
Our refrigerator has at least ten photos of you and people now even send him
cards and bring home vacation momentos with your picture on them. Both my
husband and I our great fans of you and President Clinton and want you to know
we want you to stay put and don't give into these jealous, mean-spirited,
holier-than-thou republicans. It's all very sad what they are doing to this
country. We love you and wish you and the Whitehouse family much joy,
happiness, good health and love for 1999.
George's address is: 1445 Garner Avenue, Schenectady, NY 12309
4 Jan 99
Mary Dejevsky in Washington
Bugs to LVD - You always criticize the Democrats,
but what can you say good about the Republicans?
Name: Matt Jahnke
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Message: What I would like to say is that I feel sorry for you, and your situation. What Bill didn't take into account when he slept with Monica(he can deny it all he wants), is how you would feel about it. I see you on tv all the time, smiling and happy, but I know that you are very unhappy with the situation, and probably wish that it would die down. It won't for a long time to come, as long as the press berates it into the ground, and you have to be the one who calls for an end to the whole thing. Other than that, I would like to wish you a happy new year, and my birthday is on May 8. If you could send me a little something(card or picture) or both, I would be thankful.
Name: Editors to Zippy the Wonder Slug
email: Dole for President
Message: Thanks for the info, Zippy, and for the link to the Washington Post article about Libby Dole. Running Libby Dole for President is the SMARTEST MOVE the Republicans could make. Absolutely the smartest. Even if she did not win, the Republicans would win a lot of female votes where they have been extremely weak. 60 - 75% of the female vote went to the Democrats last year. The Republicans cannot lose by running Libby Dole. Every penny invested in Libby would be a plus for the GOP. It would also help a lot to remove that hatemonger image they now have.
Libby Dole for President!
(If Hillary Clinton does not run)
Name: Editors@hillary.org
email:
Message: Monday, January 4, 1999 -- Editor of the Hillary Clinton Forum interviewed by MSNBC TV. Will air at 2:30 EST.
Anyone who can make a copy we would be happy to pay.
Name: Last Visible Dog to Bugs
email:
Message:
The controversy continues…
Bugs to LVD - You always criticize the Democrats, but what can you say good about the Republicans?
Up until now I never suggested the Bugs was the Editor but now it seem obvious. (MAKE UP YOUR MIND LVD - IS BUGS THE EDITOR OR ISN'T HE? YOU SHOULD KNOW SOMETHING BY NOW. YOU HAVE BEEN ON THE FORUM LONG ENOUGH) When the outside public (everybody except the Editor or whoever directly edits the page) posts a message it is automatically given a structure with Name, eMail, and Message imbedded in EVERY message. Now today, bugs posts a message with no structure at all - I think it is obvious the Editor is doing the Bugs posts.
For what it is worth
As for the question - I am no real lover to the Republican party. I am a Conservative with strong Libertarian leanings. The Republicans come the closest to my political views. The Republicans as a group have been made fools of by Clinton for his entire term. Clinton played rope-a-dope with then for the first few years - make the Republican actually put out legislature and then use it against them. In 1998, the Republicans said fine, Clinton you present legislature - well, Clinton presented nothing and then blamed the Republicans for doing nothing. The Republican are not good at PR. What good has the Republicans done - like I said before: ended excessive government regulation (in the 80's) that gave us today's economy, balanced the budget, ended the cold war (in the 80's - one of the main reasons for the balanced budget), Welfare reform, etc. The Republicans hane all issues but are poor at PR. The Reform party looks to be VERY conservative and a little more libertarian than the Republicans - maybe someday I will switch to the Reform party. Most importantly - last year nearly nothing was done in the government and we had a GREAT year. That is the main focus of political leaning - the less government, the better. Last year proved it.
Name: Bob Winford
email: bwinford@tir.com
Message: Our prayers are for you and your family this new year.
Name:
email:
Message: Do you realise that you are talking about the president of the United Sates of America. Hillary and Bill Clinton are the best thing that happened in a long time. Hillary is a strong women to be putting up with all this crap. Give her some credit if not for her the presidents appoval ratings would no be so high.
Name: Your Candidacy for President of the United States.
email: Shadelman@aol.com
Message: Please announce your candidacy as soon as possible. You would get two votes from this family for sure. Regards.
Name: Bugs Bunny
email:
Message: Hi LVD, Happy New Year to you and all true Americans. You see the truth is now out The Moral Majority with tht Rev. Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson and his tax free bunch always say the children of America deserve not to hear about oral sex. Rubbish, where was the moral now the "Immoral" majority when the President tried to get health care for the children, they were against it. How about food for when the children have empty stomachs. Jerry Falwell is on C-Span TV right now spout off his big religious rights mouth about immorality, humbug. He and his gang want to seize more power for themselves. But, quess what we are sorely finding out that these who hide behind religion and kids are power crazy demagouges.
Name: "1999 the year for the Clintons"
email: SjNaDa@aol.com
Message: I am truly proud of you. You are beautiful inside and out. I get a warm
feeling everytime i see you and your husband, i hate to think of the day when
you two will leave the White House, you guys have done a wonderful job. Thank
you for everything you have done and everything you are attempting to do. You
are truly an inspiration to me, my family, and my race. May God bless you
and your family throughout the coming year.
thanx,
janet anderson
Name: Message to Hillary
email: candacer@newscene.com
Message: Mrs. Clinton, (or whoever reads her mail)
My husband and I recently moved to your home town of Little Rock (a month ago). In our search for a church home, we visited several churches locally, including Immanuel Baptist. I understand your family attends church services there sometimes, and was pleased and honored to hear that I attended church where your family had. (It's silly, I know...)
Furthermore, please allow me to compliment you on your recent picture on the December magazine cover. It reiterated what most of us already saw in you-beauty and grace. You and your husband truly give new meaning to the term "grace under fire." I am proud of the job you have done as a team together for the betterment of our nation.
My family has had the opportunity to travel to several countries over the years, and I am always glad to return to what I consider the best country in the world. How fortunate we are to know that the leadership of our country lies in the hands of a Christian family. How reassuring to know that the decisions being made in our nation's capital are those in the best interest of us all, and that bills are passed on behalf of the sick, elderly, children, and those unable to help themselves otherwise.
In closing, I leave my gratitude for the great job you and your husband have done for our country, and my prayers that you will be allowed to continue to lead our country in the positive direction we are currently headed in the future.
~Candace Sawyer-Driggs~
Name: Message for Hillary
email: FAMILY15@aol.com
Message: I wish to compliment you on the class you hve shown this past year and the years before. To keep your head up and to keep smiling has to be hard, you have done a fabulous job.
I do hope you run for the senate, I am a republican but I would vote for you if you were in Ia. have you thought of running for vice president? I would do anything to do to help.
Thank you for doing what you have done for all of us.
Larry Adams
Burlington, Ia.
Name: Hillary for President
email: Pumpi03@aol.com
Message: I think that all of you are not looking to see what a great President and First Lady we have. Hillary Clinton is one of the almost the most wonderful person I have ever met. She has been strong through out this whole business. Bill Clinton has both a personal life and the one in office, so far he has done very good things for our nations and many others. I am very happy that the approval ratings for the President are at a all time high!
Name: Bugs Bunny
email:
Message: They the right with their holier than thou attitude try to integrate religion into our Government. Our forefathers, or was it five, didn't want to mix religion with Government. And we were doing okay till this new bunch of agressive fakirs came along. They snuck into school boards and Government. But they weren't satisfied they wanted to shrink down the Government and take over. They are like the Nazis or the old Bolshivics and now it up to us to kick them the hell out of our Government before they make it their Government. They want less Taxes but Drug prices go thru the roof. I feel like Paul Revere. The rats are amoung us. They criticize, they complain and condemn, but don't do a darn thing. So Thomas Jefferson said in said on September 08, 1787, "The voters will make the final decision to whom they choose to elect in the next election. They, the Republicans think the average American is so stupid and will forget it in the Year 2000 what happenned when Republican Congress's House of Representatives tried to and failed to impeach the duly elected President of the United States.
Name:
email:
Message: Is Bill Clinton Danny Williams father? - Compare these pictures....I'd say he is!!!
"TRIAL BY INNUENDO IS DISHONEST AND DISHONORABLE -
YOU ARE TRYING TO IMPLICATE CLINTON WITH NO PROOF"]

The images above are a picture of Danny Williams as a boy and a picture of Bill Clinton from his high school band (obviously, Clinton's on the left and Danny's on the right). I converted Danny Williams' picture to a black and white image to match the Clinton B/W photo. Wish there were better pictures to compare, but these were the best I could find in terms of similar age, pose, etc.
It's not scientific, but I'd say that by comparing the images above one can be pretty confident Bill Clinton is Danny Williams father. Notice the similar facial features, e.g., eyes, eyebrows, nose, smile/teeth, ears, cheeks, etc. "TRIAL BY INNUENDO IS DISHONEST AND DISHONORABLE - YOU ARE TRYING TO IMPLICATE CLINTON WITH NO PROOF"]
Since Clinton realizes Danny Williams is most likely his offspring, I can only imagine what he must be thinking right now (Saddam better take cover!).
"TRIAL BY INNUENDO IS DISHONEST AND DISHONORABLE - YOU ARE TRYING TO IMPLICATE CLINTON WITH NO PROOF"] Good thing the Williams are in hiding. I'm amazed Bobbie Anne and Danny have survived to bring this newest scandal to the nation's attention (if the left of left U.S. media ever manages to report on it!). I imagine one reason is because Danny's DNA could be linked directly back to Clinton if he and his mother met an unfortunate fate.
Name:
email:
Message: Give 'em hell Bugs Bunny! <
Name: Last Visible Dog to Bugs
email:
Message:
President tried to get health care for the children, they were against it.
What are you talking about!?! If you mean "Hillary Heathcare" - it was such a bad idea that a Democrat controlled House AND Senate refused to even bring it up for a vote.
How about food for when the children have empty stomachs.
yeah, How bout it! What are you talking about? We know you hate Christians (CRAP - YOU KNOW THAT'S UNTRUE)but what is your point or is it just an ad hominem attack?
Jerry Falwell is on C-Span TV right now spout off his big religious rights mouth about immorality, humbug.
I saw it too and unless your head was shoved up a bodily orifice - you would have seen that Dr. Falwell is a very soft-spoken man. I know very little about Falwell but it is obvious your ad hominem attacks are baseless and meaningless and are simply your way are expressing your hate for Christians. (ARE YOU A CHRISTIAN? HOW ABOUT 'HE WHO IS WITHOUT SIN CAST THE FIRST STONE - didn't learn that in your Sunday School did you?) MC Jesse Jackson was also on C-SPAN - talk about a man that speaks out of both sides of his mouth simultaneously. When callers tried to nail him to answer he just changed to subject. MC Jesse said Reagan was bad because the rich got richer and the poor got poor under Reagan - MC Jesse later said that the rich are richer now and the poor are poor now more that EVER - shouldn't that make Clinton worse that Reagan on the MC Jesse scale - but NO! MC Jesse is the slipperiest person I have seen on C-SPAN
But, quess what we are sorely finding out that these who hide behind religion and kids are power crazy demagouges.
Lunatic ramblings that make no sense. "Sorely finding" - I am no linguist (though my wife says I am sometimes cunning - [think about it]) but I don't think those two words work together.
But they weren't satisfied they wanted to shrink down the Government and take over.They are like the Nazis or the old Bolshivics
Bugs, that is a very absurd statement - you are comparing the Nazi and the Bolsheviks as if they had anything in common. The Bolsheviks were communists and the Nazi saw communism as their main enemy. I guess you think you can just type the words (and misspell Bolsheviks) and the mob will think you are a scholar. The other extremely stupid statement is the "shrink government….like the Nazis and Bolsheviks" - how stupid can you get!?! While the Nazis and the Bolsheviks had really nothing in common they were both for the government completely controlling EVERYTHING (in different ways). Bugs you have no idea what you are talking about. You are just a hateful person that likes to spew ad hominem attacks to express your hatred for Christian (BTW - your beloved Bill 'weasel boy' Clinton professes to be a born-again Christian - just like those that you hate). If you want Nazi comparisons - your broad-brush hatred for Christian is very similar to the Nazis hatred for Jew (blame them for EVERYTHING - Bugs, check the content of your message).
They want less Taxes but Drug prices go thru the roof.
Could someone explain the relationship between drugs and taxes ( Bugs is on drugs and has to pay taxes?)
I feel like Paul Revere.
I think Charles Manson is a more likely comparison.
They criticize, they complain and condemn
Looks like you are doing a darn good job of that yourself.
but don't do a darn thing…
Except give us a balanced budget, reform welfare, make congress live under their own rules, etc., etc. (BTW - thanks Republicans!)
The voters will make the final decision to whom they choose to elect in the next election.
Just like they did last November when the Republicans won in EVERY national category. (Thanks America!).
when Republican Congress's House of Representatives tried to and failed to impeach the duly elected President of the United States.
You are truly a dim bulb! The President HAS BEEN IMPEACHED ALREADY. They were successful - they did not fail. Nice try bozo!
Bugs, take your medication and stay away from sharp objects
-LVDName: Stoner® for Bugs
email:
Message:
"Bugs, take your medication and stay away from sharp objects"...
...like LVD. Sounds like sage advise to me Bugs. I just can't berate your lame attempts at justifying a Felon in Chief any better than he did.
By the way, does anyone else think Trent Lott has lost his mind or is he just being so sneaky I'm missing it (Re: The Pre-Vote Vote)?
Also, does anyone have the actual list of the twenty some odd Democratic Senators that voted to impeach Federal Judge(s) for lying under oath? God I'd love to ask those guys to explain their upcoming vote to let Clinton skate on the same charge...
Name: Bugs and LVD
email:
Message: Help! they cant stand brotherhood lol
Name: Bugs Bunny
email:
Message: Isn't it funny, they the Republicans and all the Clinton haters tried to get my President and quess what now they have been unmasked for what they are -- HYPOCRITES! So call it truth or blame Larry Flynt or even bad PR, they will have to face some angry voters in the Year 2000. Talk about Y2K Problems, The Republicans and all the demagouges had better duck into some big hole. Cause they'll be the underdogs in 2000. Seriously what have the Republicans done for us lately. Well, I am waiting for some other smart --- to come on here and something nasty. Be nice not hateful. Be constructive. Be above Politics and hate This thing is an experiement, 'Democracy' that has lasted 223 years. Don't louse up a good thing. And I like everyone Republicans and Democrats It's only a political party. I hope everyone had a good New Year Party. thing.
Name: Zippy the Wonder Slug
email:
Message:
Bugs, what's with this Hitler Fixation? By your logic any person doing an "important" job is immune from the law! If Patton and Eisenhower were in violation of the Military Code of Justice or Civilian Law they should have been punished as that code dictates. Period. (And I guarantee they would have been back in those days.) Once again, here is the fundamental difference between you and Conservatives: We believe the Rule of Law serves us better than Mob Rule or Governing by Polls.(THEN WHY DON'T YOU BELIEVE IN THE RULE OF LAW WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO PERJURY? MOST LAWYERS WOULD SAY THAT WHAT CLINTON DID WAS NOT PERJURY - THE PREPONDERANCE OF LAW IS ON CLINTON'S SIDE. ONLY A KANGAROO COURT DECIDED AGAINST HIM BECAUSE THEY DID NOT FOLLOW THE LAW) If Bill Clinton was a serial murderer would you still think he should serve out his term?! Then what laws are OK for who to break and when? Well?! No Answer! ('cause there ain't one!) If I would go to jail for Perjury, Bill Clinton should go to jail for Perjury. I bet they wouldn't let me finish my "big important project" at work before they hauled my a** off to the Big House either! Get a clue Bugs (and the rest of you Libs) we don't live in the United States of Bugs, we live in the United States of America and the rule here is the Rule of Law. Learn it. Live it. Love it.(AND THAT ESPECIALLY APPLIES TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY'S KANGAROO COURT)
Name: Zippy the Wonder Slug for "patti guido"
email:
Message:
If indeed you are sincere, [PATTI GUIDO WAS A FAKE - COULD'NT YOU SEE THROUGH IT?] congratulations and welcome to the club. We need all the help we can get to keep people like Bugs out of office! And thanks to people like you we've been entrusted with the power of a majority in the last three elections (even though winning the majority in both houses and in Governerships is labled a defeat for the Republicans by the Libs. As LVD would say: Ponderous!)
Name: Doug Wagner
email: dwagner@cwixmail.com
Message: Think about this - if only 1% (one percent) of the reported facts about Mena Drug Smuggling, ChinaGate, TravelGate, BloodGate, "suicides", murders are true, then Bill Clinton AND Hillary Clinton should be dealt with as the common criminals they most certainly are. Can NONE of these reported facts be true? These stories are documented and substansiated, but the media simply ignores or surpresses them in favor of the ludicrous and meaningless sex escapade stories. Please think carefully about this before you reply
Name: Bugs to Zippy
email:
Message: If impeaching a duly elected President by a bunch of Zealots is legal heaven help the Republic. Zippy you have been a hate monger here since day one. If I ever ran for an elected office I would think twice before having you as my constitutent. You and your bunch just don't get it the mud slinging Republicans got caught with the mud on their faces. You and I don't count, it is now up to the voters in the year 2000 to decide. I don't have any thing personal against you Zippy personally, but when you knock and say nasty things about the man I helped elect to the office of President, something strikes a nerve in me. If you were more civil and were President and you were attacked, I would defend you too.
Name: Bugs
email:
Message: Because in the end the voters have the last say. Thank you Republicans for showing us your true colors hatred.
Name: Zippy the Wonder Slug to Bugs
email:
Message:
OK. You asked for it:
If impeaching a duly elected President by a bunch of Zealots is legal heaven help the
Republic.
Not only is it legal but it is the Constitutional Duty of any honest
congressman to remove a Felon (FELON HAS NOT BEEN PROVED IN A COURT OF LAW - MOST LAWYERS
WILL TELL YOU THAT WHAT CLINTON DID WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED A FELONY IN A COURT OF LAW.
YOU ARE SPREADING UNTRUTHS AGAIN ZIPPY) from office. That's why it's in
the Constitution!
Zippy you have been a hate monger here since day one.
This technique of calling those of us for the Law and against Felons in office
"hate mongers" is utterly transparent. Since it is pointless to ask you for proof of anything
you post here I won't bother asking for proof of my alleged "hate".(YES, ZIPPY I WANT YOU TO SHOW
PROOF OF WHAT YOU SAY. YOU HAVE BEEN SPREADING UNTRUTHS HERE AND I AM SURPRISED AT YOU. I THOUGHT
YOU TO BE MORE HONORABLE THAN THAT)
If I ever ran for an elected office I would think twice before having you as my
constituent.
Another completely stupid statement and spelling error. You don't pick your
constituents, they pick you.
You and your bunch just don't get it the mud slinging Republicans got caught with the mud
on their faces.
The Clinton White House has "outed" six Republicans.UNTRUE ZIPPY - Vanity Fair outed Dan
Burton, Salon Magazine outed Hyde and Larry Flynt outed Bob Livingston!!! YOU ARE SPREADING UNTRUTHS-
SHAME ON YOU!!!
ZERO DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN
ATTACKED IN THAT DISGUSTING WAY BECAUSE IT IS BELOW US!( STARR ATTACKED BIG TIME!! HE VIRTUALLY RAPED
MONICA LEWINSKY WORLD WIDE - EXPOSED HER PRIVACY TO THE WHOLE WORLD! STARR IS THE MOST DISGUSTING
SPECIAL PROSECUTOR WE HAVE EVER HAD. ) We haven't slung ANY mud.
Until we start defending Felons in Office and referring to pornographers as
journalists YOU get the Mud Slinging Award!
You and I don't count,
You're half right anyway.
If you were more civil and were President and you were attacked, I would defend you
too.
You mean as long as I wasn't one of those nasty old Conservative Christian
Zealots. Bugs, the last thing I need is you defending me. That would be
like
Cuba coming to America's defense! Thank you but NO THANK YOU!
email:
Message:
HYPOCRITES!
hypocrites – like the Democrats when they say it is wrong to look into the private lives of people…unless they are Republicans. WHAT ABOUT STARR LOOKING INTO THE PRIVATE LIVES AND ALSO THE PRIVATE SEX LIVES OF INNOCENT PEOPLE - YOU DON'T COUNT THAT DO YOU? You mean like Hillary who said the VRWC (HILLARY SAID THERE WAS A "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy") ... but now that it has been proven that there is no VRWC (YES...THERE IS AND WE CAN GIVE YOU THE NAMES) and Bill did everything he was accused of (NO HE DIDN'T)– now Hillary thinks it not serous at all. Bugs, is that the kind of hypocrisy you are talking about?
they [Republicans] will have to face some angry voters in the Year 2000
Sorry Bugs – check the polls. The Republican G.W. Bush is still kicking l Gore’s butt in all the polls. Heck, GW has not even declared his candidacy. If Elizabeth Dole gets in the race we can basically mail in the results – the Democrats could save their money (for the Clinton defense fund) and concede defeat now.
Seriously what have the Republicans done for us lately.
Created a national budget that has a surplus – what have the Democrats done for us lately?
Be above Politics and hate
I get it – spew your hate for awhile and then tutor us on how not to be hateful – nice try.
-LVD (HATEFUL IS HATEFUL DOES)Name: DeeDeeBee
email: DBTarheel@aol.com
Message: I have just figured out Bill Clinton's phenomenal poll numbers--you know the 72% approval ratings. These are acheived somewhat the way the responses to this site are acheived--the positive replies are kept and counted, the unfavorable responses are discarded thereby presenting the public with inaccurate results. [YOU'RE SO SMART - HOW COME THE REPUBLICAN PARTY GOT SLAMMED NOVEMBER 3RD - DID WE ERASE ALL THE UNFAVORABLE RESPONSES?]
Name: Charlice Byrd
email: jmchbyrd@aol.com
Message: I personally think you're a disgrace to the American people and the destruction of feminism. If you're what women consider a classic example of wife, mother, lover - I'm certainly glad I don't fit into that category. I'm amazed and quite honestly, baffled by your ratings. It's quite obvious that you'll stop at nothing to remain in the White House and retain power at whatever cost. Heed your husband's words from Nixon's day... if a President lies to the American people, he should resign. [IF A MAN LIES TO COVER HIS SEXUAL DALLIANCES IT IS EXPECTED - WOULD YOU LIKE THE MEN YOU HAVE HAD SEXUAL DALLIANCES WITH TO EXPOSE YOU OR TO COVER IT UP?] Do the American people a favor, stop the partisanship, stop dividing the country... insist that your husband, President William Jefferson Clinton resign from office -- sooner rather than later. The both of you are a mockery to this great nation, the law and the constitution.
Name:
email:
Message:
What is with this modifying other peoples messages crap-o-la. If you modify my message PLEASE REMOVE MY NAME.
WHAT ABOUT STARR LOOKING INTO THE PRIVATE LIVES AND ALSO THE PRIVATE SEX LIVES OF INNOCENT PEOPLE - YOU DON'T COUNT THAT DO YOU?
Starr was a legal officer of the court tasked by the Attorney General to look into accusations that Bill Clinton lied under oath in an effort to deny a citizen a fair trail. Starr was supervised by Janet Reno (a Democrat) and a three judge panel. Ken Starr was legally pursuing facts in the case of the People versus Bill Clinton (so to speak). You left-wing extremist do not like to be bothered with the facts. [YOU ARE NOT BOTHERED BY THE FACTS - EACH PROSECUTOR HAS ENORMOUS LATITUDE AS TO WHAT HE CAN DO - THERE HAS NEVER BEEN A PROSECUTOR LIKE STARR WHO EXPOSED A WOMAN'S PRIVACY AS HE DID - THIS IS TANTAMOUNT TO VIRTUAL RAPE - HOW WOULD YOU LIKE HIM TO DO IT TO YOUR DAUGHTER - AND YES, IF YOU HAVE A DAUGHTER SHE MAY JUST HAVE SEX WITH THE PRESIDENT ]
STARR ATTACKED BIG TIME!! HE VIRTUALLY RAPED MONICA LEWINSKY WORLD WIDE
Whoever wrote this is an idiot that has just insulted every women (or man) that has ever really been raped. How can you left-wing extremist justify statements like this – AMAZING!
Name:
email:
Message:
Name: Karen Evans
email: redskin9@bellsouth.net
Message: How can you even hold your head up with pride? Hasn't he humiliated, demeaned, toyed with, used, and flaggerantly lied to you enough? Do either of you even have any shame? You call yourselfs christians, ["JUDGE NOT LEST YE BE JUDGED"]but you stand for none of the morals that go along with christianity, [ YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T EITHER BECAUSE YOU ARE JUDGING AND 'THROWING THE FIRST STONE' ARE YOU WITHOUT SIN?] you and your husband have defiled the most high office of the land, without remorse. Standing by your man is good if he has realized his wrong-doing and tries to do better. But your marriage and standing by Bill, is a serious joke to the millions of kids, couples and people of this great land. See, you reap what you sow.[AND YOU WILL TOO - REMEMBER THAT] Sowing draft-dodging, pot smoking, baby murdering, homosexual loving, extra-marital affairs,etc.... has only taken you two where you belong. People can't claim to be christian and only "cry out to God" when they have been caught. [ARE YOU GOD THAT YOU CAN MAKE SUCH A JUDGMENT? -JUDGE NOT LEST YE BE JUDGED ]I am sooooo ashamed to have you as the First Lady. You have no backbone. [THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT WILL NOT BE FORGIVEN AND THE UNFORGIVING - REMEMBER THAT] You talk like you are bad to the bone, but in reality, you are just as whipped as a poor, uneducated, beaten wife. The Bible states that "when they say good is evil and ev [THE BEST THING YOU CAN DO FOR YOURSELF IS TO GO BACK AND READ THE BIBLE AGAIN]
Name: Zippy the Wonder Slug to Bugs
email:
Message:
OK. You asked for it:
If impeaching a duly elected President by a bunch of Zealots is legal heaven help the
Republic.
Not only is it legal but it is the Constitutional Duty of any honest
congressman to remove a Felon from office. That's why it's in
the Constitution!
Zippy you have been a hate monger here since day one.
This technique of calling those of us for the Law and against Felons in office
"hate mongers" is utterly transparent. Since it is pointless to ask you for proof of anything
you post here I won't bother asking for proof of my alleged "hate".
If I ever ran for an elected office I would think twice before having you as my
constitutent.
Another completely stupid statement and spelling error. You don't pick your
constituents, they pick you.
You and your bunch just don't get it the mud slinging Republicans got caught with the mud
on their faces.
The Clinton White House has "outed" six Republicans. ZERO DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN
ATTACKED IN THAT DISGUSTING WAY BECAUSE IT IS BELOW US! We haven't slung ANY mud.
Until we start defending Felons in Office and referring to pornographers as
journalists YOU get the Mud Slinging Award!
You and I don't count,
You're half right anyway.
If you were more civil and were President and you
Name: Zippy the Wonder Slug to Bugs
email:
Message:
OK. You asked for it:
If impeaching a duly elected President by a bunch of Zealots is legal heaven help the
Republic.
Not only is it legal but it is the Constitutional Duty of any honest
congressman to remove a Felon from office. That's why it's in
the Constitution!
Zippy you have been a hate monger here since day one.
This technique of calling those of us for the Law and against Felons in office
"hate mongers" is utterly transparent. Since it is pointless to ask you for proof of anything
you post here I won't bother asking for proof of my alleged "hate".
If I ever ran for an elected office I would think twice before having you as my
constitutent.
Another completely stupid statement and spelling error. You don't pick your
constituents, they pick you.
You and your bunch just don't get it the mud slinging Republicans got caught with the mud
on their faces.
The Clinton White House has "outed" six Republicans. ZERO DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN
ATTACKED IN THAT DISGUSTING WAY BECAUSE IT IS BELOW US! We haven't slung ANY mud.
Until we start defending Felons in Office and referring to pornographers as
journalists YOU get the Mud Slinging Award!
You and I don't count,
You're half right anyway.
If you were more civil and were President and you were attacked, I would defend you
too.
You mean as long as I wasn't one of those nasty old Conservative Christian
Zealots. Bugs, the last thing I need is you defending me. That would be
like
Cuba coming to America's defense! Thank you but NO THANK YOU!
ge:
Name: Last Visible Dog to Bugs
email:
Message: HYPOCRITES! hypocrites – like the Democrats when they say it is wrong to look into the private lives of
people…unless they are Republicans. You mean like Clinton – who made tough dead-beat
dad laws when in fact it looks like he is one of the most notorious dead-beat dads. "TRIAL BY INNUENDO IS DISHONEST AND DISHONORABLE -
YOU ARE TRYING TO IMPLICATE CLINTON WITH NO PROOF"] You mean like Hillary who said the VRWC made up
the Monica story and if is were true it would be serous but now that it
has been proven that there is no VRWC [THERE DEFINITELY IS A VRWC AND SOME OF THE NAMES ARE; RUTHERFORD INSTITUTION,
SCAIFE, AND MANY MORE - THERE HAVE BEEN ARTICLES PUBLISHED REVEALING ALL THE NAMES AND ALL THE TIES - STARR
HAD MANY TIES IN THIS GROUP] and Bill did everything he was accused of – now Hillary thinks it not serous at all.
Bugs, is that the kind of hypocrisy you are talking about? they [Republicans] will have to face some angry voters in the Year 2000 Sorry Bugs – check the polls. The Republican G.W. Bush is still kicking Al Gore’s butt in all the polls. Heck, GW has not even declared his candidacy. If Elizabeth Dole gets in the race we can basically mail in the results – the Democrats could save their money (for the Clinton defense fund) and concede defeat now. Seriously what have the Republicans done for us lately. Created a national budget that has a surplus – what have the Democrats done for us lately? Be above Politics and hate I get it – spew your hate for awhile and then tutor us on how not to be hateful – nice try.
Name: Doug Wagner
email: dwagner@cwixmail.com
Message:
Think about this - if only 1% (one percent) of the reported facts
about Mena Drug Smuggling, ChinaGate, TravelGate, BloodGate,
"suicides", murders are true, then Bill Clinton AND Hillary
Clinton should be dealt with as the common criminals they most certainly are.
[ 60, MILLION DOLLARS WERE SPENT TO FIND OUT IF THEY WERE TRUE AND ALL THEY FOUND WAS SEX -
CAN'T YOU EVER STOP YOUR PARANOIA ]
Can NONE of these reported facts be true? [THAT'S RIGHT NONE WERE TRUE - YOU JUST WASTED TAXPAYER MONEY
WITH YOUR HATE] These stories are
documented and substansiated, but the media simply ignores
or surpresses them in favor of the ludicrous and meaningless sex escapade stories.
Please think carefully about this before you reply
[WOULD BE NICE IF YOU COULD START THINKING ABOUT
THE $60 MILLION DOLLARS YOUR HATEFUL GROUP SPENT OF OUR TAXPAYER MONEY ONLY TO CATCH CLINTON
WITH HIS PANTS DOWN - SHAME ON YOU]
Name: Zippy the Wonder Slug
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Bugs, what's with this Hitler Fixation? By your logic any person doing an
"important" job is immune from the law! If Patton and Eisenhower were in violation
of the Military Code of Justice or Civilian Law they should have been punished as that
code dictates. Period. (And I guarantee they would have been back in those days.)
Once again, here is the fundamental difference between
you and Conservatives: We believe the Rule of Law serves us better than
Mob Rule or Governing by Polls. If Bill Clinton was a serial murderer would
you still think he should serve out his term?! Then what laws are OK for who
to break and when? Well?! No Answer! ('cause there ain't one!) If I would go to jail
for Perjury, Bill Clinton should go to jail for Perjury. I bet they wouldn't
let me finish my "big important project" at work before they hauled my a** off
to the Big House either! Get a clue Bugs (and the rest of you Libs) we don't
live in the United States of Bugs, we live in the United States of America and
the rule here is the Rule of Law. Learn it. Live it. Love it.
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Message: More Clinton Hypocrisy - REDUX
White House Press Archives These remarks, made by Clinton at a
June 13, 1996 Teen Pregnancy Announcement have been posted before,
exposing Clinton's hypocrisy regarding Lewinsky. Given the
recent news about Danny Williams, deadbeat dads, et al, let's take
another look:[YOU HAVE NO PROOF THAT THE DANNY WILLIAMS AND DEADBEAT DADS IS TRUE - YOU ARE
'BEARING FALSE WITNESS' "TRIAL BY INNUENDO IS DISHONEST AND DISHONORABLE"]
MS. STONE: Good evening, Mr. President. My
question to you is, why are you allowing children to be
victimized by the deadbeats of America? "TRIAL BY INNUENDO IS DISHONEST AND DISHONORABLE -
YOU ARE TRYING TO IMPLICATE CLINTON WITH NO PROOF"] And what do you plan to
do with your administration to make these people accountable and
responsible to their obligation to their children?
THE PRESIDENT: That's a wonderful question. First
of all, one of the biggest problems we've got with deadbeat dads
is -- sometimes deadbeat moms, but usually deadbeat dads -- is
the ability to cross the state line and not have enforcement
across state lines. "TRIAL BY INNUENDO IS DISHONEST AND DISHONORABLE -
YOU ARE TRYING TO IMPLICATE CLINTON WITH NO PROOF"] So a big part of our welfare reform program
is going to be to stiffen enforcement of child support across
state lines; and to try -- whenever possible -- just to have an
automatic withholding from people's checks once they start
missing their child support payments, even if they live in
another state; and to have uniform enforcement. That will have a
dramatic impact.
Now, in many cases where there was not a marriage in
the first place, we're going to have to have some help from the
mothers in identifying the fathers. But in every case where we
can, in my opinion, once people start to miss their child
support, "TRIAL BY INNUENDO IS DISHONEST AND DISHONORABLE -
YOU ARE TRYING TO IMPLICATE CLINTON WITH NO PROOF"] I think you just ought to have automatic withholding. I
don't think people should be able to avoid the responsibility for
their children just because they're not in the homes raising
them. And I think the more automatic, the quicker it can be, the
less legal hassle, the less going to court, the fewer lawyers,
the fewer pleading with the judges, the more it's just an
automatic system, the better off we are. And that is what we're
going to work toward as a part of comprehensive welfare reform.
I can tell all of you that your bills as taxpayers
to support women "TRIAL BY INNUENDO IS DISHONEST AND DISHONORABLE -
YOU ARE TRYING TO IMPLICATE CLINTON WITH NO PROOF"] and children on public assistance would be much
lower if we had a tougher and more automatic system of child
support collection, and I think that's what we have to do.
1/5/99
California Dave
The other thing we have to do is to take seriously the
role in this problem of older men. It's a sad fact that half of all
the underage mothers in this country were made pregnant by a man who
was in his 20s or even older -- someone who has no business taking
advantage of an underage girl. "TRIAL BY INNUENDO IS DISHONEST AND DISHONORABLE -
YOU ARE TRYING TO IMPLICATE CLINTON WITH NO PROOF"] Statutory rape is still a crime in
this country. The young women are victims. Yet these laws are
almost never enforced, even in the most egregious of circumstances.
It is time for them to be enforced so that older men who prey on
underage women and bring children into the world they have no
intention of taking responsibility for are held accountable.
Here's another gem, straight from the horse's mouth, this time
at a
May 9, 1994 Town Hall Meeting
MS. CASEY: So many single-parent homes in this
country, Mr. President. "TRIAL BY INNUENDO IS DISHONEST AND DISHONORABLE -
YOU ARE TRYING TO IMPLICATE CLINTON WITH NO PROOF"] And so many of them headed by women who
have difficulty collecting child support payments. With us now
is Barbara Stone.
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Message: Burns Says We're Shooting With Real Bullets
The O'Reilly Factor Conrad Burns (R-Montana) says he doesn't
know how he will vote but agrees with O'Reilly that the White House is arrogant
and that a trial is needed. Suggests the Senate go into executive session to hear
witnesses such as Lewinsky. He thinks Americans are already convinced of
Clinton's guilt and don't need to hear the witnesses televised. Senator
Burns believes the Senate is willing to listen to a presentation by Hyde.America
will focus on what really happened. "Now we're shooting with real bullets," he said.
January 5, 1999
Conrad Burns (R-Montana)
Name: Billy Jeff Bythe,Jr
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Message: Dear Buddy, It's not so bad being in the dog house as long as you can still get your tail outside. I speak from experience! Bill, your Master
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XXXXX DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX 01/06/99 03:58 UTC XXXXX
WOMAN NAMES BILL CLINTON FATHER OF SON IN SHOCKING VIDEO CONFESSION
"TRIAL BY INNUENDO IS DISHONEST AND DISHONORABLE -
YOU ARE TRYING TO IMPLICATE CLINTON WITH NO PROOF"]
**World Exclusive**
In a shocking new videotaped confession viewed by the DRUDGE REPORT late Tuesday, an Arkansas woman claims that President Bill Clinton is the father of her 13-year old son.
He's been told all of his life by his mother that Bill Clinton is his father, and late last month, 13-year old Danny Williams of Arkansas underwent a DNA test to find out the truth.
The story of Bobbie Ann Williams and her child "TRIAL BY INNUENDO IS DISHONEST AND DISHONORABLE -
YOU ARE TRYING TO IMPLICATE CLINTON WITH NO PROOF"] Danny hit world media and rocked the White House this week after it was revealed that STAR MAGAZINE and ace investigative reporter Richard Gooding have exclusively signed Williams and his family to a paternity showdown.
Test results could not be learned Tuesday night. Gooding and Star magazine editors offered few details on the status of the story, even to their closest associates.
"It is his," Ms. Williams tells PARAMOUNT's HARD COPY in a videotaped confession recently made by the syndicated TV show. With tears rolling down her face, Williams reveals intimate details about her relationship with Bill Clinton.
"He was good to me, he gave me money," "TRIAL BY INNUENDO IS DISHONEST AND DISHONORABLE -
YOU ARE TRYING TO IMPLICATE CLINTON WITH NO PROOF"]she tells HARD COPY. "No, I'm not scared."
Also interviewed on the video is Williams' sister. She tells HARD COPY how she first doubted her sister's claims.
"I thought she was joking, you know, she was running around in the streets... But when the kid was born, he looked just liked Bill Clinton.
"We would go to grocery stores, "TRIAL BY INNUENDO IS DISHONEST AND DISHONORABLE -
YOU ARE TRYING TO IMPLICATE CLINTON WITH NO PROOF"]people would say 'That's Bill Clinton's son!' because he looks just like him!" the woman declares.
"Now that he's older -- he even looks more like him...
"Bill Clinton needs to take responsibility for his son, pay child support, like everyone else."
HARD COPY executives have not decided if and when they will air the interviews, which were conducted in Arkansas.
It is not known how much HARD COPY paid, if anything, for the sessions.
Could Bobbie Ann Williams and "TRIAL BY INNUENDO IS DISHONEST AND DISHONORABLE -
YOU ARE TRYING TO IMPLICATE CLINTON WITH NO PROOF"] her sister be blackmailing the President of the United States with outrageous and false claims of sex for money and the pregnancy that resulted?
What becomes immediately obvious to the viewer watching the videotaped confession is that this is clearly not gossip, rumor or anonymous charges being maliciously directed at a politician.
Bobbie Ann Williams does not hide her face in shadow when she names Bill Clinton as the father of her son.
And there is something sad and lonely about the woman's story the way she tells it.
To accuse the most powerful "TRIAL BY INNUENDO IS DISHONEST AND DISHONORABLE -
YOU ARE TRYING TO IMPLICATE CLINTON WITH NO PROOF"]man in the world of being the father of her son is either the hoax of a lifetime, or a personal turmoil that needs resolution.
Only two people may know that answer tonight.
Developing...
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Name: ControlGirl
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Isn't it amazing how succintly and simply Zippy is able to state his/her case and the liberals still have a hard time understanding the necessity of application of the law equally to all individuals in this great country of ours.(Notice the absence of a question mark...the question is basically rhetorical.) [IT'S ALL IN YOUR VIEW OF THINGS. IF YOU ARE A LIBERAL YOU ASK LAWYERS WHAT IS THE CUSTOMARY PROCEDURE IN A COURT OF LAW IF A PERSON LIES TO COVER A PERSONAL EMBARRASSMENT. MOST WILL TELL YOU THAT THEY WOULD NOT PROSECUTE UNDER THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES. YOU WILL DO WELL TO SPEAK TO A FEW LAWYERS WHO ARE NOT DYED-IN-THE-WO0L CONSERVATIVES OR LIVERALS. IT IS IMPORTANT IN LIFE TO BE FAIR AND JUST.] It's just not a hard concept, but it seems to be such a controversial issue with the addition of the opinions of the press and pollsters. I think things were better before we had a different channel available to us for every day of the year. People had opinions that they formed with their own minds during Watergate. Yes, it was covered widely on a channel or two, but still despite the wide television coverage, there just was not enough coverage available for everyone in the country who lived with the illusion of importance or relevance to broadcast their opinions 24 hours a day. Maybe that wasn't such a bad thing. [FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE THE FREE FLOW OF INFORMATION WILL EVENTUALLY SET US FREE - HAVE PATIENCE. THE POWERS-THAT-BE CAN NO LONGER MANIPULATE US AND THAT IS A GOOD THING. WE HAVE NOT LEARNED TO CONTROL ALL THIS FREEDOM, BUT WE WILL LEARN. THE POWER MUST BE IN THE PEOPLE FOR A REAL DEMOCRACY, WHICH WE ALL YEARN FOR, BUT I DO UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU ARE COMING FROM AND AGREE WITH YOU. PATIENCE WITH THE PEOPLE AND THE INFORMATION EXPLOSION]
My next thought I think is basically applicable to my age rather than the times, but I also find it somewhat ironic, that before I had the press, the television news shows, the internet and countless other forms of technology shoving their opinions down my throat, I was a died in the wool liberal. I voted Democratic in every election through the early 90's, but the heavy broadcast of the absence of morality has brought me to the other side of the fence, not in search of greener pastures, but rather logic. [BEWARE OF LOGIC. IF YOU ARE GUIDED ONLY BY LOGIC YOU WILL FALL INTO THE AGE-OLD TRAP. LOGIC IS LIMITED. I KNOW YOU DON'T THINK SO BUT DISCUSS THIS WITH A PHILOSOPHY PROFESSOR WHO TEACHES LOGIC AND HE OR SHE WILL ATTEMPT TO EXPLAIN TO YOU THE PITFALLS OF TRUSTING ONLY IN LOGIC - LOGIC IS AN INVENTION AND TOOL OF THE HUMAN MIND WHICH IS EXTREMELY LIMITED. TO UNDERSTAND THE UNIVERSE YOU MUST RELY ON OTHER ATTRIBUTES AS WELL TO GUIDE YOU. EMOTIONS ARE ONE AND SO IS SPIRITUALITY. I USE LOVE AND COMPASSION A LOT TOO - I HAVE FOUND THAT VERY USEFUL TO ME. BUT DO NOT DEPEND ONLY ON ONE SET OF TOOLS TO GUIDE YOU. REVELATION IS ONE OF THE BEST METHODS BUT YOU MUST BE CAREFUL WHERE THE REVELATIONS COME FROM. IF YOU HAVE A GOOD AND CONTINUOUS RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR GOD YOU WILL KNOW WHICH ARE THE TRUE REVELATIONS. PROCEED CAREFULLY THIS WORLD IS FULL OF UNEXPECTED CONSEQUENCES.
Out of the mouths of babes:
My child told me on the day that the news was filled with innuendo that
the resignation of Elizabeth Dole from the Red Cross may
mean she will throw her hat in the ring for the Presidential
Republican nomination, "Wow mom, that would be our second woman
President." I believe the significance the media has placed in the opinions
of Hillary Clinton has led his child's mind to believe that Hillary Clinton
is of far more relevance to the leadership position in the White House
that she has. It has always been a source of resentment to me that
Hillary Clinton is so very involved with the leadership of this country in
a position that is supposed to be an elected one. [EVERYONE HAS A RIGHT TO
FREE SPEECH JUST AS WE ARE ALLOWING YOUR STATEMENTS TO REMAIN ON THIS BOARD
SO TOO ARE THE MEDIA ALLOWED TO ACCESS ANYONE THEY WISH AND REPORT WHAT THEY
SAY. SADDAM GETS A LOT MORE SPACE THAN HILLARY. IT'S A SHAME THAT YOU CHILD
SEES SO MUCH "RESENTMENT" IN YOU REGARDING THE MATTER OF FREEDOM OF THE PRESS.
THIS IS THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT. IT IS FAR BETTER THAT YOUR CHILD SEES
YOU HONOR AND RESPECT OUR CONSTITUTION THAN TO SEE A RESENTFUL MOTHER.
TEACH YOUR CHILD HONOR AND RESPECT - NOT RESENTMENT. YOU WILL BE FAR BETTER
SERVED BY THAT.]
Name: Zippy the Wonder Slug to the [censored] who edits this page
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"HOW COME THE REPUBLICAN PARTY GOT SLAMMED NOVEMBER 3RD"
I've rarely heard of winning in all three [catagories SPELLING NAZI STRIKES AGAIN -
PEOPLE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULD NOT THROW STONES = IT'S CATEGORY not CATAGORY - HA, HA, HA, YOU WANT
TO MAKE A BIG DEAL OF OUR SPELLING MISTAKES WE CAN DO THE SAME TO YOU - ONLY OUR SPELLING NAZI IS MORE
POWERFUL - NEVER MAKE OUR SPELLING NAZI MAD!](House, Senate and Governors)
as getting "SLAMMED" (except by [censored] Liberals of course).
Name: Zippy the Wonder Slug to the [hateful word censored] who edits this page
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"FELON HAS NOT BEEN PROVED IN A COURT OF LAW -
MOST LAWYERS WILL TELL YOU THAT WHAT CLINTON DID WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED A
FELONY IN A COURT OF LAW. YOU ARE SPREADING UNTRUTHS AGAIN ZIPPY"
I watched the Grand Jury testimony. He lied through his teeth. When we throw
this pig out of office then we can make it official in a court of law.
[LYING TO COVER UP A PERSONAL DALLIANCE IS NOT CONSIDERED PERJURY - WOULD YOU
PLEASE TALK TO A FEW LAYWERS BEFORE YOU MAKE THESE LEGAL DECISIONS AGAIN -
YOU ARE NOT A LAWYER]
And you know damn well we can't legally prove the "Felon" charge until then.
I know he's a Felon, Congress knows he's a Felon, [IN THIS COUNTRY YOU ARE
INNOCENT UNTIL PROVED GUILTY - SURELY YOU KNOW THAT - IF YOU PERSIST IN
COMDEMNING HIM YOU ARE UN-AMERICAN AND FULL OF HATE] and any person not blindly
faithful to Clinton knows he's a Felon. I leave it to you to explain how he
could not remember being "alone" with Monica after a sexual encounter. He lied.
Period. Lying under oath to a Grand Jury is Perjury. Period.[STOP WITH THIS COCKY 'PERIOD'
BUSINESS - TALK TO LAWYERS FIRST - YOU ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT IN THE LEGAL PROFESSION AND
KNOW NOT OF WHAT YOU SPEAK]
Name: Zippy the Wonder Slug to the [hateful word censored] who edits this page
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And another thing: The bible passage about "casting the first stone" has nothing to do with pointing out evil. It has to do with punishing someone for something that is immoral. We want Clinton punished for the LAWS he broke. Get it right just once; this is NOT about morality, this is about the LAW. [TALK TO A FEW LAWYERS ABOUT WHAT COURTS USUALLY DO IN PERJURY CASES WHERE WITNESSES TELL LIES TO COVER PERSONAL EMABRASSMENTS BEFORE YOU MAKE THESE STATEMENTS AGAIN - YOU ARE NOT A LAWYER AND KNOW NOT OF WHAT YOU SPEAK]
Name: Zippy the Wonder Slug
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A recent article by Tony Snow :
WASHINGTON -- It takes Olympian shamelessness to send private detectives after your enemies,
use the artifice of law to hoodwink your friends, sew seeds of hatred everywhere -- and then
beg, as Bill Clinton did on Dec. 18, to "stop the politics of personal destruction ... (and)
get rid of the poisonous venom of excessive partisanship, obsessive animosity and
uncontrolled anger. ..."
Clinton is the undisputed master of practicing everything
he condemns, whether it be the glib abuse of power in Iraq or the reduction of women to
carnal playthings. But nowhere has he explored the possibilities of cynicism more fully than
in his recent quest to portray Republicans as foaming vessels of hatred and himself the
saintly target of their rage.
Rush Limbaugh, who has taken shots at Clinton and felt
the heat of returning fire, recently compiled a long litany of Democratic Party quotes. It
made for riveting listening because it confirmed what many conservatives have long known:
The Democratic Party has become hooked on political libel.
At the heart of the trend lies
a debate of central importance -- the argument over whether government dispenses compassion
or oppression, and who best preserves the values that have defined and blessed America for
the past two centuries, federal agencies or individual citizens.
Conservatives have warned against undue concentrations of government power, cautioning that even the most
benign ruler will become a despot if given the opportunity. They have claimed that many of
liberalism's proudest monuments were in fact costly frauds: Welfare didn't work.
Clean-needle programs didn't work. "Save the Children" schemes didn't work. Economic
pump-priming didn't work. Medicare and Medicaid were making workers pay the high price of
false promises. Social Security was primed for disaster.
These are formidable arguments.
But Democratic elders have chosen to fight back not with facts or ideas, but calumny.
A few examples will give you a flavor of things: Congress debated a minor change in the
school-lunch program three years ago -- a change that would reduce federal authority over
kids' meals while allocating more money for food. Rep. Lynn Woolsey accused the GOP of
"starving children." House Minority Richard Gephardt warned that "the Republicans are taking
food out of the mouths of millions of needy and middle-class children." Rep. John Lewis took
the most incendiary approach, claiming: "They're coming for our children. They're coming for
the poor. They're coming for the sick, the elderly and the disabled."
In similar
fashion, the White House led a charge against the Contract With America, accusing the
enterprise of being "mean-spirited" and "extreme." In one floor debate, Rep. Pat Schroeder,
Gephardt and four others used the phrases with almost robotic frequency.
The 1995-96 debate about Medicare offers an even more dramatic view of the hate-thy-neighbor approach to
politics. The White House and the GOP produced very similar plans for keeping the program
afloat. Nevertheless, the president and his party portrayed the minor discrepancies as
crimes against humanity. Jerrold Nadler called the plan "Draconian, mean-spirited and
immoral." Rep. Luis Gutierrez complained, "Once again, they're playing Robin Hood in
reverse: taking from the poor to give to the rich." Rosa DeLauro warned, "our children are
being left the crumbs of the Gingrich Revolution."
Or think about the Thompson
committee's hearings into the systematic fleecing of Asian Americans by the Democratic
Party. Rather than disputing facts, Team Clinton actually accused the Republicans of being
anti-Asian! So now comes the president, depicting the GOP as driven by blind hatred
during the recent debate on his impeachment. This insult has in it the stuff of the old
blood libel against Jews. It depicts others as animals animated by rage rather than reason,
and hints that all's fair in fighting such an enemy.
The White House have even
tried to exploit wounds they say they want to heal. They have incited ill will among African
Americans, for instance, by accusing the Republicans of racism in L'Affaire Lewinsky.
Such attacks are irrational, unanswerable -- and therefore, highly effective in inflaming
suspicions. Let's be clear: Hatred is and always has been the weapon of first resort for
Bill Clinton and his minions. One can review the cases of Paula Jones, Billy Dale, Monica
Lewinsky and others without seeing a single disputation of fact -- only smears.
The recent Republican attempts to hold the president accountable for his behavior are not signs
of "obsession" or moral putrefaction. Ken Starr and Henry Hyde are not psychos. What's sick
is the fact that this administration, having turned the language of morals upside-down, now
has the temerity to insist that Republicans -- who in their worst days don't issue the kind
of imprecations Democrats now utter as a matter of course -- are responsible for the ugly
atmosphere in Washington today.
Name: Zippy the Wonder Slug to [explitive deleted] Censors
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"YOU WANT TO MAKE A BIG DEAL OF OUR SPELLING MISTAKES WE CAN DO THE SAME TO YOU"
You censored (finally using the correct word, thank you) the message to
which this refers but I must correct you (again): it was
not a spelling error I pointed out but a punctuation error.
Get your facts straight and if possible address the content of the
posts BEFORE the picky stuff. I do.
And, with all due (or otherwise) respect, if "most lawyers" would not
prosecute Clinton for his lies under oath why are there hundreds
of people in jail right now for that exact crime? The day it's OK to lie under oath
about who you had sex with IN A SEXUAL DISCRIMINATION CASE our system
of law is doomed. According to your view I can now lie under oath about
who I pointed a gun at in a robbery case!! Can I lie about how much I earned
on an IRS form now too?!
Name: Last Visible Dog (in defense of Zippy)
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[catagories SPELLING NAZI STRIKES AGAIN - PEOPLE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULD NOT THROW STONES = IT'S CATEGORY not CATAGORY - HA, HA, HA, YOU WANT TO MAKE A BIG DEAL OF OUR SPELLING MISTAKES WE CAN DO THE SAME TO YOU - ONLY OUR SPELLING NAZI IS MORE POWERFUL - NEVER MAKE OUR SPELLING NAZI MAD!]
Isn't it funny when the Hypocrite who edits this page makes a fool of him or herself! Acting as the spelling nazi the Hypocrite who edits this page thought they caught Zippy in a spelling error but in their haste to show their superior knowledge - they say "IT'S CATEGORY not CATAGORY - HA, HA, HA," but in actuality the word was catagories (which should have been categories). The Joke is on you Editor - or as Zippy puts it the Hypocrite who edits this page. -LVD
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[TALK TO A FEW LAWYERS ABOUT WHAT COURTS USUALLY DO IN PERJURY CASES WHERE WITNESSES TELL LIES TO COVER PERSONAL EMABRASSMENTS BEFORE YOU MAKE THESE STATEMENTS AGAIN - YOU ARE NOT A LAWYER AND KNOW NOT OF WHAT YOU SPEAK]
Editor/Censor, have you not yet learned how to use the "caps lock " key - see it you release the "caps lock" then all your ramblings will be readable and not look like the ramblings of a crazed lunatic or some kind of ransom note.
Factual Correction: Bill Clinton lied under oath in an effort to deny a citizen a fair trail (he was successful). Bill Clinton also lied under oath before a grand jury when to focus of the of the testimony was the fact that he had lied previously. In neither case was he simply "cover[ing a] personal embarrassment" he was lying to avoid legal ramifications.
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Name: ControlGirl
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Isn't it amazing how succintly and simply Zippy is able to state his/her case and the liberals still have a hard time understanding the necessity of application of the law equally to all individuals in this great country of ours.(Notice the absence of a question mark...the question is basically rhetorical.) It's just not a hard concept, but it seems to be such a controversial issue with the addition of the opinions of the press and pollsters. I think things were better before we had a different channel available to us for every day of the year. People had opinions that they formed with their own minds during Watergate. Yes, it was covered widely on a channel or two, but still despite the wide television coverage, there just was not enough coverage available for everyone in the country who lived with the illusion of importance or relevance to broadcast their opinions 24 hours a day. Maybe that wasn't such a bad thing.
My next thought I think is basically applicable to my age rather than the times, but I also find it somewhat ironic, that before I had the press, the television news shows, the internet and countless other forms of technology shoving their opinions down my throat, I was a died in the wool liberal. I voted Democratic in every election through the early 90's, but the heavy broadcast of the absence of morality has brought me to the other side of the fence, not in search of greener pastures, but rather logic.
Out of the mouths of babes:
My child told me on the day that the news was filled with innuendo that
the resignation of Elizabeth Dole from the Red Cross may
mean she will throw her hat in the ring for the Presidential
Republican nomination, "Wow mom, that would be our second woman
President." I believe the significance the media has placed in the opinions
of Hillary Clinton has led his child's mind to believe that Hillary Clinton
is of far more relevance to the leadership position in the White House
that she has. It has always been a source of resentment to me that
Hillary Clinton is so very involved with the leadership of this country in
a position that is supposed to be an elected one.
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Name: Karen Evans
email: redskin9@bellsouth.net
Message: How can you even hold your head up with pride? Hasn't he humiliated, demeaned, toyed with, used, and flaggerantly lied to you enough? Do either of you even have any shame? You call yourselfs christians, but you stand for none of the morals that go along with christianity, you and your husband have defiled the most high office of the land, without remorse. Standing by your man is good if he has realized his wrong-doing and tries to do better. But your marriage and standing by Bill, is a serious joke to the millions of kids, couples and people of this great land. See, you reap what you sow. Sowing draft-dodging, pot smoking, baby murdering, homosexual loving, extra-marital affairs,etc.... has only taken you two where you belong. People can't claim to be christian and only "cry out to God" when they have been caught. I am sooooo ashamed to have you as the First Lady. You have no backbone. You talk like you are bad to the bone, but in reality, you are just as whipped as a poor, uneducated, beaten wife. The Bible states that "when they say good is evil and evil is good.....watch out, he's coming soon." How else can this be explained? A whoremonger,purgering felon is in the helm of this great nation and most people like him there. God have mercy on your souls. May He not punish Chelsey for yours and Bill's sins, and may she see the truth about right and wrong, not what you have tried to feed her. Maybe she will nbe able to see the truth away from you two, at college. I thank God for Monica having enough sense to keep the "blue dress." We christians have never heard an apology from you Hillary. Remember when you said on GMA that it was the "radical, right-winged extremists" out to try and take bill down? Was it these people, that you accuse, that pulled down Bill's zipper(numerous times) and forced him to have oral sex with Monica? No, it was Bill. Stop acting like a spoiled child and admit when you are wrong. He has shamed us to all of the other nations of the world,the children of America have no decent president to look up to, you two have brought down the standards that were held high for so many years, and that you two are a disgrace to our armed forces and any veteran. RESIGN BILL!
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Name: Matt Jahnke
email: mjahnke@pdq.net
Message: What I would like to say is that I feel sorry for you, and your situation. What Bill didn't take into account when he slept with Monica(he can deny it all he wants), is how you would feel about it. I see you on tv all the time, smiling and happy, but I know that you are very unhappy with the situation, and probably wish that it would die down. It won't for a long time to come, as long as the press berates it into the ground, and you have to be the one who calls for an end to the whole thing. Other than that, I would like to wish you a happy new year, and my birthday is on May 8. If you could send me a little something(card or picture) or both, I would be thankful.
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[Expletive deleted]! I misspelled expletive deleted! Oh well...
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Name: Zippy the Wonder Slug for "patti guido"
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If indeed you are sincere, [PATTI GUIDO WAS A FAKE - COULD'NT YOU SEE THROUGH IT?] congratulations and welcome to the club. We need all the help we can get to keep people like Bugs out of office! And thanks to people like you we've been entrusted with the power of a majority in the last three elections (even though winning the majority in both houses and in Governerships is labled a defeat for the Republicans by the Libs. As LVD would say: Ponderous!)
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Name: Zippy the Wonder Slug to the Hypocrite who edits this page
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"PATTI GUIDO WAS A FAKE - COULD'NT YOU