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By RON KAMPEAS, Associated Press Writer

JERUSALEM (AP) - In her first foreign visit as a senator-elect, Hillary Rodham Clinton held high-profile meetings with a prime minister, a president and a parliament speaker - not their spouses - and observed a gunbattle from a distance.

It was a sharp change from the usual first lady protocol of kindergartens and hospital wards that characterized her previous visits. Even the highlight of her visit - delivering a eulogy at the funeral of Leah Rabin - seemed more of an affair of state.

``She was a woman not without controversy, something I can relate to,'' Clinton said of the widow of peace architect Yitzhak Rabin. ``But she was a woman who cared deeply and lived fully.''

A series of rushed meetings before and after the funeral spoke more of political substance - and Clinton's new role as senator-elect from New York - than of ceremonial duties. She had closed-door meetings with Prime Minister Ehud Barak and President Moshe Katsav.

In December 1998, when she and President Clinton visited, it was the president who shuttled between Israeli and Palestinian leaders in an effort to bring peace talks back from the brink while his wife toured kindergartens and schools in Gaza and Israel, accompanied by the Palestinian and Israeli first ladies.

On her most recent visit, a year ago, her encounters with the Israeli prime minister were limited to two events given by his wife, Nava Barak - a conference on youth violence, and a lunch at home.

Her formal title during this visit remained ``first lady,'' but each meeting spoke more of cultivating the political sensibilities of the powerful junior senator from New York.

Parliament speaker Avraham Burg took asked her to step onto the Knesset terrace to observe a gun battle raging 11/2 miles away in Gilo, the Jerusalem suburb that is the scene of daily firefights.

``The whole discussion, around American peace policy, was about our readiness for peace, and our unassailable demand for security,'' Burg told Israel Channel Two. ``I told her, look, they're shooting at Gilo now ... It was real enough that she could understand the significance of gunfire on the capital of Israel.''   REFERENCE

May the Will of the People Prevail

Name: Thomas Stoffer

email: tstoffer@netonecom.net

Message: The number of votes cast for VP Gore was generally higher than those cast for Gov. Bush. VP Gore s ballots were harder for the machine to read.

Since we know that both candidates received approximately the same number of votes, it must be that Florida s ballot is defective. The defect in the ballot may be inadequate

pre-perforation of the Gore chad or uneven thickness of the card thinner at the edges than on the rest of the card.

This defect may be inherent in the punch ballot process; a chance anamoly, or a deliberate attempt to alter the results of the election. In any case, I have heard no discussion or explanation of why a machine recount resulted in such a great increase in the number of Gore votes.

Since the machine recount changed the results by 1800 votes jointly, and since the difference in the results stands at less than 1000 now, we strongly urge not only a closer look at the Florida ballot itself, but a hand recount of all ballots.

Sincerely, Thomas and Ewa Stoffer

Name: Right-Winger-Dissembler

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Name: Sinisa Milovanovic

email: eurolaw@EUnet.yu

Message:

November 18, 2000
Belgrade, Serbia

  On behalf of EuroLawOffice in Belgrade, we wish to express our delightful congratulations to Mrs. Clinton on her succesful candidacy to US Senate!  

May her role be the model for all European women politicians.  

Also, we wish to establish contact with law representatives in the US who have worked with/for Mrs. Clinton, to put up for discussion certain developmet issues here in Yugoslavia.  Please do be so kind to forward this to "Whom It May Concern", who may be able to contact us.  

Our cordial regards and congrats,  

With Respects,  

Sinisa Milovanovic, attorney at law

Name: Ton Coumans

email: ton.coumans.priv@soneramail.nl

Message:

    Dear Hillary,
  Congratulations with your election to the Senate.  

Thank you for all the efforts you and your husband are bringing to achieve peace in the Middle East.  

Your speech at Leah Rabin's insired me and I would like to make a small contribution to the case of peaceful settlement of disputes.

  I have translated Martin Luther King's "I have a dream" speach to the situatiion in Israel and the occupied territories. I hope it will inspire you and Bill and maybe you could pass it on to Arafat.

  Kind Regards
  Ton Coumans Amsterdam 

Name: congratulazioni

email: Fulvio Bianchi

Message: carissima Hillary, complimenti per la tua elezione! Di sicuro diventerari il primo Presidente degli Stati Uniti d'America che non sia uomo. Con la tua forza sbaraglierai tutti. Tanti cordiali saluti da Putignano, un piccolo paesino in provincia di Bari (Italia). Fabio

Name: Massimo Zangari

email: maxgobno@libero.it

Message: I am an Italian Student and I'm taking a degree in American Literature. I have heard that Mrs. Clinton wants to support a proposal in the Senate for changing the presidential election system. I have a proposal to make. I think that a good standpoint is the adoption of the same type of ballot in every state and every county. The election of the person who represents the United States and every citizen of the US, requires the use of one ballot, so that every citizen should vote in the same condition of anyone else across the country. If I vote for ALabama State's Congress, it is right to have a different ballot from the one used in the Ohio State's Congress Election, but if a person from Alabama has to vote in an election where an Ohio citizen is involved, too, it is right to vote in the same way. I Wish Hillary a nice Senate Term

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