Sen. Clinton Urges Punishment For Syria

Mar 1, 2005 10:55 am US/Eastern
(1010 WINS) (WASHINGTON) Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton called Tuesday for tougher punishment against Syria, saying the country was aggressively supporting terrorism in the "dangerous neighborhood" of the Middle East.

In lambasting Syria, Clinton joined a growing chorus of officials in Washington urging the United States to take a harsher stance against that country following a Feb. 14 bombing in 
Beirut that killed the former premier of Lebanon.

Speaking to the Jewish Council for Public Affairs, Clinton branded Syria and Iran bad neighbors bent on upsetting the fragile balance in the region.

"It is not only a dangerous neighborhood, but a neighborhood in which very few of the neighbors are committed to what Prime Minister (Ariel) Sharon is doing or what we hope to come from the Palestinian leadership," said Clinton.

Iran and Syria "pose such great threats not only to peace and stability, but in Iran's case the potential for nuclear capacity, and in Syria's case, with the continuation of the support for terrorism that flows from Damascus," she said.

Both Iran and Syria were cause for alarm, but Clinton said Syria deserved special attention.

"I've been particularly troubled by the Syrians' aggressive posture," said Clinton. "We need to send a very clear message that we will not tolerate what we believe to be and have reason to know is the continuing support for terrorism that comes out of Syria and Iran."

Clinton, considered an early front-runner for her party's nomination to the White House in 2008, has asked the Bush administration to toughen economic sanctions against Syria.

She was followed to the stage by Sen. Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., who hinted that Syrian President Bashar Assad may find it difficult to hold onto power amid the push for greater democracy in neighboring Lebanon.

"It will be interesting to see what happens inside Syria. ... In this day and age it's hard to be a ruthless dictator," said McConnell.

Syria has come under intense worldwide scrutiny since the bombing that killed former Lebanese premier Rafik Hariri and 16 others.

Assad, in an interview published Monday in an Italian newspaper, denied any involvement, saying such a role would spell "political suicide."

The United States already enforces sanctions against Syria as a state sponsor of terrorism, but the criticism has escalated amid complaints that Syria and Iran allow militants to slip across the borders with Iraq to conduct attacks on U.S. forces.

Assad told La Repubblica he believed the U.S. might attack his country, but said such a confrontation would be averted because Damascus is critical to any peace effort. source


OP-ED COLUMNIST

Why Not Here?

By DAVID BROOKS

Published: February 26, 2005

 

This is the most powerful question in the world today: Why not here? People in Eastern Europe looked at people in Western Europe and asked, Why not here? People in Ukraine looked at people in Georgia and asked, Why not here? People around the Arab world look at voters in Iraq and ask, Why not here?

Thomas Kuhn famously argued that science advances not gradually but in jolts, through a series of raw and jagged paradigm shifts. Somebody sees a problem differently, and suddenly everybody's vantage point changes.

"Why not here?" is a Kuhnian question, and as you open the newspaper these days, you see it flitting around the world like a thought contagion. Wherever it is asked, people seem to feel that the rules have changed. New possibilities have opened up.

The question is being asked now in Lebanon. Walid Jumblatt made his much circulated observation to David Ignatius of The Washington Post: "It's strange for me to say it, but this process of change has started because of the American invasion of Iraq. I was cynical about Iraq. But when I saw the Iraqi people voting three weeks ago, eight million of them, it was the start of a new Arab world."

So now we have mass demonstrations on the streets of Beirut. A tent city is rising up near the crater where Rafik Hariri was killed, and the inhabitants are refusing to leave until Syria withdraws. The crowds grow in the evenings; bathroom facilities are provided by a nearby Dunkin' Donuts and a Virgin Megastore.

The head of the Syrian Press Syndicate told The Times on Thursday: "There's a new world out there and a new reality. You can no longer have business as usual."

Meanwhile in Palestine, after days of intense pressure, many of the old Arafat cronies are out of the interim Palestinian cabinet. Fresh, more competent administrators have been put in. "What you witnessed is the real democracy of the Palestinian people," Saeb Erakat said to Alan Cowell of The Times. As Danny Rubinstein observed in the pages of Ha'aretz, the rules of the game have changed.

Then in Iraq, there is actual politics going on. The leaders of different factions are jostling. The tone of the coverage ebbs and flows as more or less secular leaders emerge and fall back, but the amazing thing is the politics itself. If we had any brains, we'd take up Reuel Marc Gerecht's suggestion and build an Iraqi C-Span so the whole Arab world could follow this process like a long political soap opera.

It's amazing in retrospect to think of how much psychological resistance there is to asking this breakthrough question: Why not here? We are all stuck in our traditions and have trouble imagining the world beyond. As Claus Christian Malzahn reminded us in Der Spiegel online this week, German politicians ridiculed Ronald Reagan's "tear down this wall" speech in 1987. They "couldn't imagine that there might be an alternative to a divided Germany."

But if there is one soft-power gift America does possess, it is this tendency to imagine new worlds. As Malzahn goes on to note, "In a country of immigrants like the United States, one actually pushes for change. ... We Europeans always want to have the world from yesterday, whereas the Americans strive for the world of tomorrow."

Stephen Sestanovich of the Council on Foreign Relations wrote an important essay for this page a few weeks ago, arguing that American diplomacy is often most effective when it pursues not an incrementalist but a "maximalist" agenda, leaping over allies and making the crude, bold, vantage-shifting proposal - like pushing for the reunification of Germany when most everyone else was trying to preserve the so-called stability of the Warsaw Pact.

As Sestanovich notes, and as we've seen in spades over the past two years in Iraq, this rashness - this tendency to leap before we look - has its downside. Things don't come out wonderfully just because some fine person asks, Why not here?

But this is clearly the question the United States is destined to provoke. For the final thing that we've learned from the papers this week is how thoroughly the Bush agenda is dominating the globe. When Bush meets with Putin, democratization is the center of discussion. When politicians gather in Ramallah, democratization is a central theme. When there's an atrocity in Beirut, the possibility of freedom leaps to people's minds.

Not all weeks will be as happy as this one. Despite the suicide bombings in Israel and Iraq, the thought contagion is spreading. Why not here?   source...

 


Name:   Dr. Dan
To:   Hillary Handlers

Re:   Sen. Clinton Urges Punishment For Syria
Message:
Look at the left side of Hillary's face and her lft eye

What do you think?


Name:   What do I think
Re:   Hillary is a Medical Miracle
In response to:
Look at the left side of Hillary's face and her lft eye

Message:
I think Hillary is not only the most intelligent woman in the world, but she is also the strongest, the toughest and a medical miracle!!!

I have never seen a person who had a stroke, that was so bad it visibly affected one side of the face, spring back so quickly as to be able to arrive one hour later at her next meeting to make a speech and field questions, not miss one single meeting in her tough schedule, and then immediately fly to India where to was a WOW! and "wooed India" and is now kicking Syria's butt at the Jewish Council for Public Affairs.

You cannot deny that Hillary is way above the ordinary mortal.

Hillary is a Medical Miracle! - Nothing can stop her!


Name:   These are Not Good Times (if you're a democrat)
Message:
is it my imagination or is hillary looking more and more like prof irwin corey? the her left side of her face is sagging a little. she prabably did have a stroke but it only affected the half of her brain she doesn't use.


Name:   Dr. Dan
To:   What do I drink? (Hilly Kool Aid be my guess)

In response to:
I have never seen a person who had a stroke, that was so bad it visibly affected one side of the face, spring back so quickly as to be able to arrive one hour later at her next meeting to make a speech and field questions, not miss one single meeting in her tough schedule, and then immediately fly to India where to was a WOW! and "wooed India" and is now kicking Syria's butt at the Jewish Council for Public Affairs.

Message:
So if "you" didn't see it, it ain't so?


Name:   Hillary is a Miracle
Message:

Hillary wants UN resolution on anti-Semitism

WASHINGTON: Sen Hillary Clinton has told the Jewish Council for Public Affairs that she wants a UN resolution against international anti-Semitism. “We can track the increase in anti-Semitism around the world, and we need to get people on the record once and for all on where they stand,” Clinton told the Council at its meeting here on Tuesday. She also expressed the need for US pressure on Iran and Syria, and for the United Nations to do more to fight genocide in Darfur, Sudan. Mrs Clinton appears to be preparing ground for a possibly shot at the presidency in 2008.

Daily Times, Pakistan
khalid hasan


Name:   These are Not Good Times (if you're a democrat)
In response to:
In lambasting Syria, Clinton joined a growing chorus of officials in Washington urging the United States to take a harsher stance against that country following a Feb. 14 bombing in Beirut that killed the former premier of Lebanon.

Message:
what do you mean joined? isn't she supposed to be the fierce smart independent saviour of us all? why isn't she leading instead of joining? she's a fraud and even her PR is weak.


Name:   ET
To:   Dr. Dan

In response to:
So if "you" didn't see it, it ain't so?

Message:
We are looking forward to medical articles educating us as to how a person who has a stroke that visibly affects on side of the face continue in one hour on a heavy schedule within one hour and continue non-stop across the world getting rave reviews everywhere.

If she did indeed have such a severe stroke Hillary is a medical miracle. For that physical power alone she should be our next president. Hillary can survive anything.


Name:   Odd Isn't It?
To:   forum

In response to:
Abu Grabbe issue is recycled with some new pictures added. Big brewhaha reinitiated. Isn't it awful? Let's lynch the general who was in charge. We need a scapegoat.

Message:
The Iraqi judges in Saddam Hussein's trial have all been murdered. The general who ordered that the judges didn't need bodyguards "feels our pain". Perhaps the general will spend lots of time in the French Riviera in a new villa he has recently acquired? Or he will spend time in the military's "nuthouse" because he "must have lost his mind to do that".


Name:   These are Not Good Times (if you're a democrat)
In response to:
“We can track the increase in anti-Semitism around the world, and we need to get people on the record once and for all on where they stand,” Clinton told the Council at its meeting here on Tuesday.

Message:
what is she suggesting? sort of a spanish inquizition thing? will someone come and question me? this woman is a friggen nutjob. she must have had a stroke to say something like this.


Name:   Give Hillary a host job on "The View"
Re:   strokes are very common in post-menopausal women
In response to:
Look at the left side of Hillary's face and her left eye What do you think?

Message:
Definite droopage...and for the record, I said transient ischemic attack... a precursor to a much bigger event (ie a stroke)


Name:   Pe a-Hi
To:   Eochi Doctor

Message:
Kill Yourself Now


Name:   Celebrity Politicians Without Makeup
Re:   Thursday Night 9pm
Message:
Hillary's face is being maintained by Talosian thought control...don't be fooled


Name:   Blessed are the Cheesemakers
To:   the Life of Brian

In response to:
what is she suggesting? sort of a spanish inquizition thing?

Message:


Name:   yogi
To:   boo boo

Re:   FLINTSTONE is the command word
Message:
peanut butter and hillary sandwich?


Name:   11
To:   These Times

In response to:
what is she suggesting? sort of a spanish inquizition thing?

Message:
No, Mothra and Batra have caused Spain to sink to the depths of the Atlantic & now we must talk to Dr. Subiyachi and use his oxygen destroyer!!


Name:   inuyasha
To:   kagome

In response to:
peanut butter and hillary sandwich?

Message:
you'd need a LOT of [chunky]peanut butter to get rid of the taste of hillary...


Name:   FLINTSTONE[jimmy]
To:   ET

Re:   Test new secret code word
In response to:
Test

Message:
Test


Name:   inuyasha
To:   Syria

Message:
IRON REAVER.. SOUL STEALER!!


Name:   jimmy
Message:
i eat dookie


Name:   FLINTSTONE[jimmy]
Message:
so do i!!!


Name:   These are Not Good Times (if you're a democrat)
In response to:
Iran and Syria "pose such great threats not only to peace and stability, but in Iran's case the potential for nuclear capacity, and in Syria's case, with the continuation of the support for terrorism that flows from Damascus," she said.

Message:
hillary is down with this axis of evil thing. i'm sure she was kidnapped by birchers.


Name:   Inuyasha
Re:   Hillary will feel the sting of my wind-scar!
In response to:
hillary is down with this axis of evil thing. i'm sure she was kidnapped by birchers.

Message:


Name:   Fearless Leader
To:   Inuyasha

Re:   GAZA AS THE NEW DUBAI - THE HONG KONG OF THE LEVANT
Message:
WAR HAWK HILLARY?? EXTENDING AN UNPOPULAR WAR?? AN INTEERSTING POLITICAL GAMBLE. SHE'S BIDDING FOR THE SAME NEOCON SPONSORSHIP THAT IS NOW UNHAPPY WITH GEORGE W FOR NOT LAUNCHING A FULLSCALE OCCUPATION OF THE MIDDLE EAST. AND THEY WILL TAKE HER BID SERIOUSLY NO DOUBT. THE QUESTION IS WILL HER OLD CONSTITUENCIES FOLLOW HER IN THIS NEW DIRECTION? CAN THE NEOCONS DELIVER IF SHE PROMISES TO DELIVER??


Name:   Morris
Message:


Too funny. A Hillary catnip toy!
We always knew that Hillary liked pussy, now we can see if pussy likes Hillary.


Name:   Bill C.
Message:
Why is a laundromat a really bad place to pick up a woman? Because a woman who can't even afford a washing maching will never be able to support you.


Name:   Howard D.
Message:
Your wife comes out of the kitchen to whine at you, what have you usually done wrong? Made her chain too long.


Name:   John K.
Message:
What do you call a woman with two brain cells? Pregnant


Name:   J. F. K. '08
Message:
Hillary is so BLONDE that she...

1. ...took her new scarf back to the store because it was too tight.

2. ...couldn't learn to water ski because she couldn't find a lake with a slope.

3. ...can't work in a pharmacy because the bottles won't fit into the typewriter.

4. ...got excited because she finished a jigsaw puzzle in 6 months and the box said "2 to 4 years".

5. ...was trapped on an escalator for hours when the power went out.

6. ...couldn't call 911 because there was no "Eleven" on any phone button.

7. ...when asked what the capital of California was, she answered "C."

8. ...burnt her nose bobbing for French Fries.

9. ...baked a turkey for 5 days because the instructions said 1 hour per pound, and she weighed 125.

10. ...can't make Kool-Aid because 8 cups of water won't fit into those little packets.

11. ...hates M&M's because they are so hard to peel.

12. ...got hurt while raking leaves; fell out of the tree.

13. ...after losing in a breaststroke swimming competition, complained that the other swimmers were using their arms.


Name:   Shikon Jewel
Message:


Name:   Inquiring Mind
In response to:
Hillary is so BLONDE that she...

Message:
yeah but does the carpet match the drapes?


Name:   Hillary is so BLONDE that she...
Message:
What goes VROOOM-Screech,VROOOM-Screech,VROOOM-Screech,?

Hillary at a flashing redlight


Name:   Body, End, Dot!
To:   Carbon Clay Floozy

In response to:
Bad Boys Ravage Only Young Girls But Violet Gives Willingly *

Message:
In free America, we were taught the following: [1234567890] Black boys rape our young girls,... etc.

O! The Horror! Sure enough, as any feeling Liberal would expect, someone shot Dr. King! (And you can bet that the perp had those Racist resistors in his car radio)

I tell you, it's almost as bad as the SUV/carbon dioxide pogrom against the Polar Bears!


Name:   MARTIN BUCHWALD
Re:   RALPH J. GLEASON AND LENNY BRUCE
Message:
THE BANDS WOULD START PLAYING THE RALPH AND LENNY THEME WHENEVER THEY'D WALK IN A PLACE


Name:   ARKHAM HUT
To:   IRONY MODELED

In response to:
e: yeah but does the carpet match the drapes?

Message:
IN ALL THREE HOLES


Name:   General Belgrano
To:   Fourche

Re:   Bad Bets, but at least they pay their bills ( or maybe Eochaidh's)
In response to:
Why is a laundromat a really bad place to pick up a woman? Because a woman who can't even afford a washing maching will never be able to support you.

Message:
Watch out for those gals lined up at the Pic N Pay counter around the first of the month buying 12 to 25 money orders. When they open their purses purse to get the greasy bills out, lotto tickets slip out and flutter to the floor like confetti.


Name:   >
To:   ta-ette

In response to:
General Belgrano To: Fourche Re: Bad Bets, but at least they pay their bills ( or maybe Eochaidh's) In response to: Why is a laund

Message:
Whew!! Thank heavens you're still preening, I was afraid you were going to actually talk about news & policy on your own without waiting for orders


Name:   Type III
To:   pik A nit

Re:   Deep Discussion
In response to:
Whew!! Thank heavens you're still preening, I was afraid you were going to actually talk about news & policy on your own without waiting for orders

Message:
Yep. But is Hillary a ntaural blonde?


Name:   Crude
To:   TriType

In response to:
Yep. But is Hillary a ntaural blonde?

Message:
Does old pussy smell like fish heads?


Name:   Shill
Message:

"Good Morning!

This is the day the Lord hath made!

Let us rejoice and be glad IN it!"

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Name:   Amanda Star
To:   Hal

Re:   Masqued Bawl
In response to:
I was afraid you were going to actually talk about news & policy on your own without waiting for orders --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Message:
The Supreme Court Appears to be aloof, if not actually hostile to the U.S. Constitution as a template for their deliberations. Apparently the ACLU has determined that they shall not seek any counsel or guidance whatever from God. So what does regulate their deliberation?


Name:   W*A*R*N*I*N*G
To:   EVERYBODY

Re:   DO NOT TRUST THE RIGHTWING MEDIA COMPLEX
Message:

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Name:   Mandy Star
To:   Thixotrope

Re:   Them too, as far as that goes.
In response to:
Apparently the ACLU has determined that XXtheyXX shall not seek any counsel or guidance whatever from God

Message:
Apparently the ACLU has determined that the court shall not seek any counsel or guidance whatever from God


Name:   Mentos Fresh
Message:
The Bobo Doll Democrats

 

Senate Democrats signaled yesterday that they would continue their extra-Constitutional practice of filibustering judicial nominees to the federal circuit whom they judged to be unacceptable for ay reason. To remind you, this practice has no precedent whatsoever, and is distinctly different from home-state prerogatives or majority party prerogatives that have bottled up circuit nominees under both Democrats and Republicans. The filibuster of appeals court nominees is an aberration from past Senate practice, and has no support in Constitutional history, and all the weighty speeches of Leahy, Kennedy, Schumer, Boxer and Byrd cannot obscure that fact that they and their colleagues are engaged in a great destructive campaign against the Constitution, and in particular against its prohibition on religious tests.

The newspaper accounts of the Democrats' decision to continue their obstruction in the face of successive defeats in 2002 and 2004 on this very issue are here, here, here and here. There is no doubt in anyone's mind that a collision is coming.  The blogosphere has posted extensively on the subject, as compiled in this Vox Blogoli symposium. There is no evidence of a desire within the GOP base for anything except a showdown, so a showdown will come, and the sooner the better.   Democrats had a majority in the United States Senate when they began their campaign against center-right nominees.  They are now in the minority, outnumbered 55 to 45. If they want to refight the campaigns of the last two cycles in 2006, that's great news for the GOP. But even if it was lousy politics, the Republicans have no choice but to fight hard for the president's Constitutional right to have his nominees come to an up-or-down vote.

This will require a ruling from the Chair that a filbuster is out-of-order on a judicial nominee, and a confirming vote by a simple majority.

So Majority Leader Frist needs to announce the schedule for the confrontation, and do so soon. It would be best if he brought all previously filibustered nominees to the floor at the same time, and approved them all at the same time after securing the rules change that is necessary. Then let Harry Reid and the rest of the dead-end Democrats begin their salt-in-the-fields campaign.  Their collective judgment about what the American people think about such obstructionism will prove to be as accurate as their collective judgment about Iraq, John Kerry, and lower taxes.

As this confrontation unfolds, the GOP base will want to be able to endorse the decision to confront the Democrats, especially on their religious bigotry.  Congressman Mark Kennedy (www.markkennedy06.com) is already campaigning for Minnesota's open Senate seat and will be a beneficiary of the desire to increase the GOP majority in the face of the Leahy-led extremism of the Democrats.  Washington State's Dino Rossi and other leading GOP potential candidates in 2006 should get their internet sites up and ready to receive support as Kennedy has.

The GOP used to be known as "the stupid party."  The competition for that title is the only thing the Republicans have lost to the Democrats in a long, long time.


Name:   Afzal H. Khan from Lebanon
Message:
Freedom breaking out in Lebanon...


Have any of the leftists noticed that this only happens when a powerful and committed REPUBLICAN like Ronald Reagan or George W. Bush are in office?
Oh, the left HATE them both with a drooling passion.
But there it is...

Clinton gave us the humiliation of Somalia. The WTC was bombed and the perpetrators went unpunished. Where is his legacy? What is his legacy? A stain on a dress?

Bush did the hard job. Everyone was against him. Afghanistan is free and no longer a terrorist training ground. Iraq just had free elections and no more Saddam. Khadafi has given up his weapons of mass destruction. Syria is pulling out of Lebanon and Lebanon will once again be the Paris of the middle east.


Thank you George W. Bush!
God bless you Mr. Bush.


Name:   The Truth Really, Really Hurts... if you're a leftist
Message:
The Bush Legacy:


The Clinton Legacy:


Name:   Joey
Message:
2008?

Good luck Hillary.

Hahahahahaha


Name:   Korn Teeth Gap
To:   Rightie

Re:   Aunt Jamima for Presidant
Message:
get reel


Name:   Please
In response to:
2008? http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/01/images/20030123-1_s161-31-th-282v.jpg

Message:
The number of the beast is 6 6 6.

Do you know where it is located on this ?


Name:   Hollis Cotton Oil Co.
To:   jimmy crack corn

Re:   Aunt Jamima for Presidant
In response to:
Tillage after planting

Message:
The ideal way is to stir the soil after each rain as soon as it is fit to work, and to maintain a loose, mellow surface. In the middle West, the cultivation is most commonly done with a two-horse cultivator that finishes one row at a time. Whenever possible, two-horse cultivators should be used. One-horse cultivators were all right when men worked for fifty cents a day, but they should not now be used except for small areas on smeall farms, or where labor is cheap and inefficient, as in the South.


Name:   proletarian dictatorship
Re:   Recklessness is not in the interests of the proletariat
Message:
State Imperialism Should be Distinguished from Economic Imperialism Historically, these periods were superimposed, taking place generally as parallel series of events. Frequently, as a result, the distinction between their natures is simply not noticed and this leads to mistakes; with one process being taken as the causal link to the consequences of another. State imperialism is feudalism raised to a higher level. At this level the place of the feudal lord is occupied by, sometimes very sizeable, groups of people. Consider for example the role of Great Britain as the lord of the British Empire.

Most frequently it is racism which serves in the capacity of an idea dividing the 'lordly' group from the rest of society. Nationalism too, although this is not obligatory, for there can also be other ideas; religious, party-political, in fact whatever idea, so long as it permits the raising of insuperable barriers and qualifications for entry into the elite. Such 'lordly' groups strive to secure their well-being through the maintenance and exploitation of the rest of society in serfdom.

Economic imperialism is international monopolism, a purely bourgeois phenomenon. It conducts its struggle, not in society, but in a given branch of production, suppressing and subordinating competitors by means of economic pressure. It prefers not to clash with society.

It is a widespread mistake to ascribe war to economic imperialism. As a matter of fact, economic empires conduct only economic struggle; though it is true that they do not shrink from bribery, economic espionage and the use of state influence.

To conduct a war, the more backward state imperialism is needed. This is a relic, a dying survival of the past; as evidence of this take the self-destruction of the colonial empires. Yet it continues to remain a danger, even, to be honest, on the basis of socialism. This is why it is absolutely essential to deal the death blow to its organizing ideas.


Name:   good tsar
To:   Hollis Cotton Oil Co.

Re:   How must the working class realize its dictatorship
In response to:
The ideal way is to stir the soil after each rain as soon as it is fit to work, and to maintain a loose, mellow surface. In the middle West, the cultivation is most commonly done with a two-horse cultivator that finishes one row at a time. Whenever possible, two-horse cultivators should be used. One-horse cultivators were all right when men worked for fifty cents a day, but they should not now be used except for small areas on smeall farms, or where labor is cheap and inefficient, as in the South.

Message:
You will not have the edge for long................... HACKER


Name:   1010 wins
To:   star

In response to:
So what does regulate their deliberation?

Message:
publicity?


Name:   B.T. Babbitt
To:   Maryknoll Sisters

Re:   JUUVlie's favorite ottoman is equipped with 544 gleaming spikes
In response to:
Do you know where it is located on this ?

Message:
Left buttock, just aft of the dust hatch. Always use caution when standing or working behind large animals. An emission may occur, or body parts may suddenly or unexpectedly go into motion. For that matter, you could be sat upon.


Name:   Cal me Red Hillford School
To:   freesby Homer

Message:

One must be hungry himself in order to lead the hungry!


Name:   FREEDOM
Message:
Classes are those groups of people between whom all the productive forces of society are divided. On this basis the production relations between classes are formed. With the appearance of owners of a certain fraction of the productive forces, arises the possibility of their influencing all movement of the social product and their exploitation of this resource in the struggle with other classes for social position. The very existence of classes is linked to the existence of private property in productive forces (not just the means of production) and this is why, quite apart from the existence of barter or commodity-money relations, the significance of any particular productive force varies and the roles of the classes vary correspondingly with particular classes obtaining supremacy over the rest.

In conditions of commodity-money relations, social position is wholely and completely defined by economic circumstances, that is the share of social wealth appropriated and distributed by the given class. The classes struggle amongst themselves over this.

The productive forces include three fundamental elements; the earth and all its natural wealth, the means of production, which are congealed, dead labour, and labour power. Historical changes in production methods and the corresponding changes in socio-economic formations are constrained by the level of organization and the organizing influence of these elements on society.

Apart from the classes in society, there are people who do not enter the production process in the capacity of owners, who do not contribute any of their property to social production. These can be divided into groups according to their social role; intelligentsia, army, lumpen proletariat and so forth. All of them, in one way or another, necessarily serve such classes as are able to allot to them the share of goods essential for their existence, i.e. chiefly such classes as are, at the current moment, in a commanding position. Despite the fact that their indirect influence on production can have colossal significance for society, despite the definite internal organization of such social groups, these groups do not play a decisive role in the development of society since they lack the organic unity of interests which is distinctive of a class. Historically, all attempts of such social groups to influence the development of society led, after the appropriation of some part of the productive forces, to their becoming a class or rising into the class which they were, perhaps unconsciously, serving. This is precisely why the social interests of such groups are always vague and do not form a socially significant unity.

The class policy of the victorious proletariat is defined, in the first place, by the circumstances under which they achieved victory. In other words, it is essential that the level of development of the productive forces and the corresponding class composition of society be taken into account.

As a rule, it is joint action of the proletariat and the peasants and petty bourgeois which result in the achievement of power. However, if in this union the proletariat does not have decisive supremacy, then the revolution will not have a socialist character, it will remain bourgeois-democratic.

The authentic victory of the proletariat, the socialist revolution, always means the establishment of the dictatorship of the proletariat. The union of the proletariat with the peasants and other layers of society can have no other content, for the term of this dictatorship, than the requirement of the proletariat for the functioning of these layers. This requirement lasts only for the period in which the wholeness of this complex of functions remains essential for the existence of society.

The policy of the proletariat in relation to other classes and layers is entirely dictated by the necessity of stimulating socially necessary activity in them; it is linked with the organizational forms borrowed from the capitalists of old, to the extent that this is necessary to secure the clarity and effectiveness of these stimuli. But simultaneously, the proletariat and its state must nurture those stimuli contradicting the obsolete forms; thus smashing them and directing the development of all layers into socialist channels.

Here the complete expropriation of the exploiters has a decisive significance; it destroys the psychological dependency of the individual's social position on capital, on his private property. But, having been once carried through to completion, the process of expropriation must not cease. Commodity-money relations inevitably give rise to a tendency to enrichment; and this means that the struggle against these tendencies, in all their modes of existence, is unavoidable. One of the most important tasks is the inculcation of the idea that personal wealth, however it is constituted, does not guarantee the consolidation of social position, but on the contrary, its instability. This objective, naturally, contradicts the construction of socialist society's most important relations on a purely bourgeois basis. For in retaining bourgeois relation, socialist society has no intention of increasing their stability; just as capitalism itself gives no guarantee against destruction or capitalist competition and so forth. At the same time, the retention of bourgeois relations demands of socialist society the drawing-up of the plan of attack against them.

These are the most complicated questions of the internal policy of the dictatorship of the proletariat. The movement of the whole of socialist society toward communism depends, to a very significant extent, on the correctness of their resolution at each historical step. And, in the first place, this is linked to the construction of relations with such classes as the peasants and such strata as the intelligentsia.


Name:   FREEDOM
Message:


Name:   Rodrigo Camargo
In response to:
Consider for example the role of Great Britain as the lord of the British Empire. Most frequently it is racism which serves in the capacity of an idea dividing the 'lordly' group from the rest of society. Nationalism too, although this is not obligatory, for there can also be other ideas; religious, party-political, in fact whatever idea, so long as it permits the raising of insuperable barriers and qualifications for entry into the elite. Such 'lordly' groups strive to secure their well-being through the maintenance and exploitation of the rest of society in serfdom. Economic imperialis ...

Message:
The vested interest of the US is usually the vested interest of the world. " What was the 'rest of the world's opinion on invading Iraq? Missile 'defense'? The humanitarian crises in Rwands, Congo, Sudan? Israeli crimes against Palestinians? The Kyoto protocol? And those are just some of the recent topics.

For the most part, US interests are against those of the rest of the world's, regardless of stripe. You name them - democratic, authoritarian, industrialised, developing, poor countries they almost all for the exception of Israel, wholeheartedly disagree with the vast majority of the unilateral decision-making that goes by the name of 'US foreign policy'. What little sympathy the rest of the world had after the Sept 2001 incident in New York has long since been spent.


Name:   McCoy
To:   Wizard

Re:   Supreme Court
In response to:
publicity-regulated court?

Message:
Their own dogmatism is their only lodestar, I think. I think they enjoy contravening the public consensus, so long as doing so does not compromise their (now traditional) Secular Statism.


Name:   kraftverk
Re:   vain obscurity unpersuasive
Message:
frist vs. richardon would be a more likely contest in 08 than rice vs. clinton. the public likes the adminstrative experience of governors ( real governors , not tiny yuppies like dean)


Name:   alexi alekseev
Message:
che was a terrorist who sold out the people of cuba and even worried fidel so he sold him out to the bolivians. that is the grownup version, cadets just like the fruity beret


Name:   Che
To:   jimmy

Re:   Meet me in Managua!
Message:
I wanna hold your hand!


Name:   X -Upiter
In response to:
hillary is down with this axis of evil thing. i'm sure she was kidnapped by birchers. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Message:
I read the top line and that's all I needed to read.What I would like to see is every last liberal to go over to iraq and spread their terrorist love propaganda and see how long they live. I don't know who I despise more -- liberals or terrorists -- I wonder how many of liberals have served anywhere for the U.S? probably zero. Their harangue helps the terrorists advance their cause, and they don't even realize that they are as dangerous as the terrorists because their actions protect them.


Name:   Hillary Fan
In response to:
the top line and that's all I needed to read.What I would like to see is every last liberal to go over to iraq and spread their terrorist love propaganda and see how long they live. I don't know who I despise more -- liberals or terrorists -- I wonder how many of liberals have served anywhere for the U.S? probably zero. Their harangue

Message:
I am so terrified and sick of these terrorists! I understand that not all Muslims are Terrorists but I ask you people of the world, why are most Terrorists Muslim?!


Name:   ogre thorpe
Message:
you mean, if they could get publicity and destroy society by championing a religious cause,a christian cause, and still pet the donkey, they would?


Name:   Scotty
In response to:
read the top line and that's all I needed to read.What I would like to see is every last liberal to go over to iraq and spread their terrorist love propaganda and see how long they live. I don't know who I despise more -- liberals or terrorists -- I wonder how many of liberals have served anywhere for the U.S? probably zero. Their harangue helps the terrorists advance their cause, and they don't even realize that they are as dangerous a

Message:
If you truly think it's right for Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld & Co., to endanger the environment of the U.S. and the world so that the super-wealthy multi-national companies whom they represent can become even wealthier at the cost of the health and survival of our planet, then you definitely do not fit into the liberal frame of mind of "not being selfish" or "not being servile or mean".

If you think that it's a good thing to instigate trouble and turmoil that you can use as an excuse and a pretext for starting wars and invading countires, killing tens of thousands of innocent men, women and children, for the purpose of again enriching yourself and the multi-national corporations, and also for the sake of controling areas rich in natural resources...... In other words, engaging in CRIMINAL activities, and violating every statute of the human rights according to the U.N. charter, and engaging in crimes against humanity..... then you DEFINITELY are NOT a liberal!


Name:   Ruidoso
In response to:
These are the most complicated questions of the internal policy of the dictatorship of the proletariat. The movement of the whole of socialist society toward communism depends, to a very significant extent, on the correctness of their resolution at each historical step. And, in the first place, this is linked to the construction of relations with such classes as the peasants and such strata as the intelligentsia.

Message:
that is language designed to exclude the proletarait


Name:   red white
In response to:
then you DEFINITELY are NOT a liberal!

Message:
good...liberals tend to lie a lot more than reghular people


Name:   John Kerry
To:   fellow Americans

Message:

You see fellow Americans, unfortunate people like you have been brought up in a system where they have systematically been brainwashed. Brainwashed to believe that the U.S. is the best country in the world, although the U.S. is the ONLY industrialized country that does not have national health insurance. Americans are also by far the most heavily debted people in the world. The extremely high prices you pay for medical drugs cannot be matched by any other country that I know of. All this and much, much more, just so that the few filthy rich who run the U.S. can become even richer.

They brainwash you to believe that Iraq has weapons of mass destruction only so that they can invade that country, cut into pieces (Which will happen - you just wait and see) and rob them dry of their national resources to once again, become even wealthier! They brainwash you to believe that Afghanistan has to be "liberated" from the Talibans so that the "Good and humane" Americans can bring their "freedom and democracy" - But what they do not tell you is that for years they have wanted access to the biggest natural gas deposits in the world, located in Central Asia. The problem was that they couldn't build the pipes through "hostile" Iran... No, because then the Iranians would benefit from getting paid.... Why should the Iranians get paid when they have DARED to stand up against U.S. bullying, manipulation and war-mongering? The next best route to Iran was Afghanistan, but the Taleban were in power there, so they had to get rid of them and put a puppet regime which they could control and use in place of the Talibans.

Now they're brainwashing you to believe that Iran is a threat to the U.S. and world peace - they're heating the pan for the next slaughter.... And so little people like you really know of what is really happening! But Andrew, I pity you! Because things will not always continue this way. What goes around comes around. And when it comes around, people like you are going to get the shock of their life! It will be very difficult for you to accept and realize that you have been lied to an entire life, so that the greedy, arrogant and evil people whom you have been so loyal to could steal, kill, maime and torture their way to more and more riches...


Name:   Red Baron
To:   jimmy

Re:   "Great Society" a Union maneuver to protect cartel wages?
In response to:
To the fields, Labor Cadres!

Message:
The cotton crop is harvested by hand. Various attempts have been made, from time to time, to build a mechanical cotton-picker, and some very creditable machines have been produced, but they have not come into general use. The problem is a difficult one because of the leaves and trash that are more or less mixed with the cotton by the machine. Cotton-picking is the Negroe's holiday vacation, and where there is a large percentage of Colored people, there is usually little difficulty in getting sufficient labor to harvest the crop. They pass rapidly through the fields deftly picking the locks from the open bolls, and placing them in a long sack which they drag behind them. The cotton is usually picked by the hundredweight. An average worker can easily pick 200 pounds of cotton per day.


Name:   post-terrorist freethinker
To:   submissive

In response to:
I am so terrified and sick

Message:
damn, the hate muslims campaign is slowing down, time for some real perky p.r. to get people hating muslims, europe, oh europe, woo woo woo, you won't be cool and wonderful and fabulous if you don't hate muslims. there that should do the trick


Name:   Freedom Corp
In response to:
You see fellow Americans, unfortunate people like you have been brought up in a system where they have systematically been brainwashed. Brainwashed to believe that the U.S. is the best country in the world, although the U.S. is the ONLY industrialized country that does not have national health insurance. Americans are also by far the most heavily debted people in the world. The extremely high prices you pay for medical drugs cannot be matched by any other country that I know of. All this and much, much more, just so that the few filthy rich who run the U.S. can become even richer.

Message:
Listen to John Kerry People! He is right!


Name:   ...
In response to:
"Hell Oprah's so rich, John Kerry's filin to divorce Teresa

Message:
Mmmm, I luvs me a BOTOX man!


Name:   Jules
In response to:
Bush did the hard job. Everyone was against him. Afghanistan is free and no longer a terrorist training ground. Iraq just had free elections and no more Saddam. Khadafi has given up his weapons of mass destruction. Syria is pulling out of Lebanon and Lebanon will once again be the Paris of the middle east.

Message:
I am not American, but I do know that the US foreign policy is the only one that can stop these terrorists.


Name:   Funny Papers
In response to:
Name: John Kerry To: fellow Americans

Message:
John Kerry Who?


Name:   Lesser Known Comic Book (heros?)
In response to:
John Kerry Who?

Message:
John Kerry Edwards... the metrosexual duo!


Name:   Mr. Tubbs
To:   Down Yonder

Re:   Post-partum abortion upheld by default?
In response to:
you mean, if they could get publicity and destroy society by championing a religious cause,a christian cause, and still pet the donkey, they would?

Message:
They stayed away from the Terry Shaivo case. That would have got them face time. I don't think that championing (in the sense of defending from active attack) a mainstream (need not be Christian) religious cause or practice would contravene public consensus. It seems to me that those who are using sometimes questionable technicalities to attack religious expression are always the few, or even a party of one, attacking what the public has not only long accepted, but in fact long practiced.


Name:   Jules
Message:
Why is the Muslim world not with the rest of us in getting our planet safe for humanity? It is my humble opinion that all the Muslims I see in the streets of Tehran, Baghdad, or wherever, shouting DOWN with this or that, need to get a job earn some cash have some kids, take em out to McDonalds, and drink a Coke and have a smile.


Name:   Oh THAT Guy
Message:


Name:   .
In response to:
am not American, but I do know that the US foreign policy is the only one that can stop these terrorists.

Message:
There is a misconception of who are the terrorists. The americans are the real big terrorist groups who use violence in order to pursue their vested interest. ALLAHU AKHBAR!


Name:   Thad Bunkerhill
To:   jimmy

Re:   If I am responsible for your upkeep, you are my property!
In response to:
Listen to John Kerry People! He is right!

Message:
I am not going to pay your insurance premium, jimmy.


Name:   jimmy Black foot
In response to:
am not going to pay your insurance premium, jimmy

Message:
Black Foot Jimmy pal....


Name:   Black Foot Jimmy
Message:
I must meet with my tribe in calgary.see ya late...


Name:   Omulo Salaam
To:   jimmy

Re:   U.S. must die!
In response to:
The extremely high prices you pay for medical drugs cannot be matched by any other country that I know of.

Message:
In Gabon, an attractive daughter of breeding age can get you a lifetime of free medications.


Name:   jimmy
Message:
The indian tribe for a few bucks allows me to teach the very young hard body males crickette.


Name:   Latter Day First Peoples
To:   jimmy

Re:   Boot massage
In response to:
I must meet with my tribe in calgary.see ya late...

Message:
Those cowboys will beat you up for sure, jimmy. Best stay in Toronto with Pepe.


Name:   ....
In response to:
In Gabon, an attractive daughter of breeding age can get you a lifetime of free medications.

Message:
Out yourself white trash! Coward and hacker..... Show the face of evil......


Name:   Pal Me
In response to:
Those cowboys will beat you up for sure, jimmy. Best stay in Toronto with Pepe.

Message:
whats a few pounds for a good time?


Name:   Mother DuPea
To:   jimmy

Re:   Toronto's the place, bar scene, free meds, indigent burial benefit, etc.
In response to:
The indian tribe for a few bucks allows me to teach the very young hard body males crickette

Message:
They know it better than you ever could, and much more besides.


Name:   Pfaltzberg
To:   strontium jimmy

Re:   shackup made to order
In response to:
whats a few pounds for a good time?

Message:
Pepe gets a monthly stipend for being a grinning idiot with a self-inflicted terminal disease. If you need a bit of the knockabout, go into any working class bar. You will be cheerfully accomodated.


Name:   Observer
Re:   Thank you George W. Bush!
In response to:
Bush did the hard job. Everyone was against him.

Message:
Yes, especially every spineless Democrat, who repeatedly lied about Bush when it was politically expedient. Right, ET?

The entire MiddleEast is being reshaped before our very eyes because one man had the guts to do something Bill Clinton and his co-president, Hillary, would never do. Leadership takes being a leader. The Clintons are followers posing as leaders.


Name:   Say what?
To:   forum

Re:   17s can kill without death penalty, 10 suggestions
In response to:
are for chiseling bastards to eliminate. Solution? If they chisel out the words, new ones can be diecast, holes drilled and epoxied back. Make several copies in case the rats chisel more, take it out, etc

Message:
"They" the enforcers of godless athieism and Communism, have to get work orders to eliminate the words you restore. Do it often enough and the bastards will give up messing with the true rights of red blooded, God-fearing Americans. All you need is stealth, guts, and verve.

Speaking of stealth, guts and verve...how are the citizens doing in defending Arizona from dope packing criminal invaders, and diseased sneak-ins? Arizona 's Border Patrol was already putting that of California, New Mexico, and Texas to utter hang-down-your-head SHAME and now decent, God-fearing citizens are assisting the authorities. Ther is nothing wrong with citizen patrols. Farmer John has been putting up with trespassing, cattle, crop, and other varieties of russling and thievery for "coon ages". Thas Southern for "one Helluva long time"!


Name:   These are Not Good Times (if you're a democrat)
In response to:
With the appearance of owners of a certain fraction of the productive forces, arises the possibility of their influencing all movement of the social product and their exploitation of this resource in the struggle with other classes for social position.

Message:
i ain't struggling. walking on the backs of the lazy and stupid ain't no big struggle. they like it. we have a symbionic relationship. they clean paint and pick and i let them buy color tv's and cd players. hollywood does the rest. you the only one complaining noam.


Name:   These are Not Good Times (if you're a democrat)
In response to:
The Clintons are followers posing as leaders.

Message:
old hillary recently joined the growing chorus of converted to the neocons. didn't you hear? read the story at the top of the page. she is now ready to open a can of whupass on assad jr and the mullahs in terhan. all that wrong war wrong place wrong time wussified surrender monkey crapola is out the window now.

of course hillary and her bunch would have done it better. there would have been bouncey cell phone thingeys and they would have nuked museum looters and had sorority house mothers at abu gharaib.

let this be a lesson to you liberal wusses. people like the arabs don't respect anything but strength. anything less is a sign of weakness. they respect you when they know you ain't fucking around. things better left to people that aren't paralyzed by PC moral relativity or realative morality or whatever you call it.


Name:   Viva La France!
Re:   Liberte! Equalete! Insanite!
In response to:
God only knows what perks Bush promised the loco weed French and Germans to kick in support. Some was only token,at best. One country is sending ONE GUY to train police in Iraq. the ONE GUY mist have gotten caught with the Prime Minister's wife in the very act to get sent to Iraq.

Message:
Politicians work all kinds of deals to get what they want. Bush's predicessor used to throw money at every problem from Sean Fenn to Yassar (That's My Baby) Arafat and all he ever got was kickbacks for his efforts at peace. But that's a WIN-WIN situation. The IRA got $50 million, Arafat got $50 million and the American taxpayer got lots of Vasiline.


Name:   Zut!
Re:   The jerks who bedevil us all
In response to:
you the only one complaining noam.

Message:
He's too fat to push the mowing machine and too poussey to pull the rope to start it. He is deadly afraid of the fumes, too. So he has to beguile others out of a living for himself. (Most of the acrid mower exhaust stink is ethyl mercaptan and combustion products of same; it is an "odorant" that the government, I suspect, requires refiners to add to motor gasoline. Alcohol gasoline adulterants also stink horribly when they burn. Straight gasoline has a very low exhaust odor.


Name:   uhrevmnui4lwhdbgrvc ew
To:   sjdmfghl; fkbhukewqthought police

Re:   hxcK3; YH
In response to:
POSITIVE SYNERGY IN MIDDLE EAST BECOMING EVIDENT EVEN TO DELERIOUS PISSANTS. LOCALS, ISRAELIS IN PARTICULAR, TAKING POSITIVE STEPS AT LAST.

Message:
Israel is moving toward a saner relation with Palestine. I think that this situation is a product of generally higher levels of regional sanity which seems to be encourageing a saner and more realistic approach to heretofore intractable local problems by locals, FAR BEYOND AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ.


Name:   Editor Dom
To:   uhrevmnui4lwhdbgrvc ew

Message:
i didn't delete your message if thats what you meant by "thought police". you posted when i was editing other stupid posts and it didn't make it through. sorry about that.


Name:   Civil Bagdasarian
Message:
A Stunning Convergence in Prophecy

Sunday, February 20 brought a stunning convergence of stage-setting for things to come, in my view. The first and most profound of these developments to come on a single day was the thrust forward in the “Roadmap to Peace” efforts by the US and the EU.

President Bush spoke at Brussels, Belgium, the heart of European Union geopolitics and diplomacy. He minced no words in putting forward what should be the international community’s aim for the troubled Mid-East region, especially that involving Israel and the Palestinians.

A report from Prophecy Update, Monday February 21, 2005 gave a quick sketch of the president’s words to those gathered in the Brussels EU headquarters:

"Bush Says Mideast Peace Is Within Reach

US President George W. Bush says making peace between Israelis and Palestinians is a priority. ‘Our greatest opportunity, and our immediate goal, is peace in the Middle East,’ Bush said in a speech in Brussels, during a fence-mending trip to Europe. He called for a Palestinian state with enough "contiguous" territory to make it viable. ‘A state of scattered territories will not work,’ Bush said, vowing to ‘ raise the flag of a free Palestine.’ ‘The world must not rest until there is a just and lasting resolution to this conflict,’ he said.”

Another powerful prophetic dynamic was taking place in the same basic time frame. Preparations began in earnest for Israel to pull out of territories that have long been in contention, in the view of many world diplomats, holding up the peace process between Israel and her neighbors.

The Israeli Cabinet approved the Israeli withdrawal from the Gaza Strip. The vote was 17 to 5. Under the plan, Israel will dismantle 25 Jewish settlements in disputed territories.

Again, from Prophecy Update, Monday February 21:

“Timetable for Expulsion of Gaza Settlers

Yesterday's Cabinet decision to pull out of the Gaza Strip has set the timetable in motion for the expulsion of 9,000 Jewish settlers. Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz signed evacuation orders that will clear the way for dismantling 21 Jewish settlements in Gaza and four more in Samaria. The evacuation is expected to begin around July 24th and will take from seven to nine weeks. A week or two before it starts, the army will seal off the area to prevent settlers from Judea and Samaria from arriving for mass protests. Gaza settlers who refuse to leave, will be removed by force.”

The action by the Israelis, in concert with other concessions in the making, will give the Palestinian leaders basically the same thing President Bill Clinton got Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak to offer PLO President Yasser Arafat in 2001. That deal would have given the PLO leader 98 percent of what they had been demanding from Israel, in order to agree to a peace settlement.

Arafat got up and walked out on the deal at that time.

Although attacks continue from the Palestinian terrorists, Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon seems determined to go through with the new offer. Newly elected Palestinian leader Abu Abbas almost certainly will accept the offer, although he has paid only lip service and has taken very little action to put a damper on the terrorists.

The drive by the whole diplomatic world to ink some sort of peace pact seems so strong, some believe, that Sharon is caught in a rush of history he can’t resist.

The second factor to make this week’s time frame a stunning convergence of Bible prophecy is the EU’s relentless movement toward approving a constitution, which will cement its position as, in effect, revived Rome. On the same day as President Bush was making his statement and the Israeli Cabinet was laying out pull-out plans in order to “give peace a chance,” Spain moved the EU one step closer to giving that prophesied end-time geopolitical behemoth its constitutional legs.

A BBC report on February 21, 2005 presented the story of the first steps of ratifying the EU’s historical document:

“Spain Voters Approve EU Charter

With almost all the votes counted, officials’ figures showed 77 percent of voters backed the charter. The Spanish PM welcomed the result, but with turnout at about 42%, opposition leaders said the vote was a failure.”

It was the first of a series of European polls on the constitutional treaty, which must be ratified by all 25 EU member states to go into effect.

The deadline for ratification is November 2006.

These issues and events coming in one day is a stunning testament to how swiftly prophecy stage-setting is shaping up. Israel clearly must be back in its historical land in order for Bible prophecy to be fulfilled. Many passages in the Old and New Testaments foretell of Israel in the time just before Christ returns in His second advent. The geographical European area that once comprised the ancient Roman Empire must, like Israel, be at the center of world attention, as outlined in Daniel 9:26-27 and other places in Scripture. A peace covenant must be at the heart of matters involving both Israel and the revived Roman Empire, again, according to Daniel 9:26-27.

One thing more in the news that makes the discerning sensibility of Bible prophecy students stiffen to ness has appeared on history’s horizon. The reestablishment of the Jewish Sanhedrin adds to the convergence. There must be a Jewish temple on Mt. Moriah. We know this because we are told in 2 Thessalonians that the man of sin, Antichrist, will sit in that end-time temple declaring himself to be God, and demanding worship as God. The Sanhedrin is the religious body that governs the administration of temple worship.

It is wise for Christians to be especially at this strange, though exciting time. God has the keys to the vehicle of Bible prophecy, so I am not predicting the current convergence of what clearly appears to be prophetic stage-setting will immediately lead to the “covenant made with death and hell” (Isa. 28: 18). The Lord has many times in the past seemed to put His powerful hand on the quickly spinning global issues and events to slow the march toward that fatal peace-making effort. But, I honestly cannot remember so many things relating to that tribulation-igniting event coming together in such a dramatic way as we have just witnessed.

Before that prophesied covenant is confirmed, or guaranteed, by the world leader out of revived Rome, Jesus will say, “Come up hither!” to His Church. It is time, as never before, for us who belong to Christ to be looking up, while we at the same time go about our Lord’s business here on Planet Earth.
--Terry


Name:   Hackberry Wig
To:   George

Re:   No peace can exist without local cooperation among parties
In response to:
US President George W. Bush says making peace between Israelis and Palestinians is a priority.

Message:
Just be careful you don't leave the Israelis and Palestinians out of it.


Name:   NuTone
To:   uhrevmnui4lwhdbgrvc ew

In response to:
Israel is moving toward a saner relation with Palestine. I think that this situation is a product of generally higher levels of regional sanity which seems to be encourageing a saner and more realistic approach to heretofore intractable local problems by locals, FAR BEYOND AFGHANISTAN AND IRAQ.

Message:

A Multi-Pronged Strategy to Defeat Hamas

By David Makovsky
International Herald Tribune, March 2, 2005

Now that the Israeli government has voted to withdraw from the Gaza Strip and the northern West Bank, the key challenge is to stop those who oppose any peace agreement. Despite Friday’s lethal bombing in Tel Aviv by Islamic Jihad, the chief among these groups remains Hamas, the Islamic rejectionist movement, which for four years has sponsored suicide bombers and is ideologically committed to Israel’s destruction. Fighting Hamas with new Palestinian security forces is important and an obvious starting point, but that alone won’t suffice. A political and financial strategy is also needed to neutralize them.

The new Palestinian Authority has in fact been taking early security steps to cope with militants. In firing commanders known as Yasser Arafat’s cronies, the authority’s president, Mahmoud Abbas, has shown that he knows the necessity of revamping the security structure. By framing the issue as one of public safety, Abbas banned gun possession by the general public. Notwithstanding the fallout from Friday’s attack, there has been some success; Israel’s departing chief of staff, Lieutenant General Moshe Yaalon, had observed that “the Palestinians are starting to dismantle the terror infrastructure,” and are even arresting militants. Abbas has also sought to delegitimize the culture of violence, saying it is politically counterproductive to the aspirations of Palestinian statehood. Israel is encouraging this trend by forswearing the demolition of homes belonging to relatives of suicide bombers, ending targeted killing of Hamas operatives and announcing prisoner releases.

As Friday’s attack showed, the cease-fire is fragile, and Abbas must understand that he needs to utilize it to keep Hamas in check. Beyond revamping the security services, the authority must vigorously move against Hamas and other militants. The United States is dispatching Lieutenant General William Ward to help restructure the security services and to revive Israeli-Palestinian security cooperation. Such cooperation is crucial in ensuring that Palestinian quality-of-life measures, like lifting West Bank checkpoints, can be taken without leading to increased Israeli fatalities; in providing a framework for dialogue enabling a coordinated disengagement from Gaza this summer; and in monitoring the cease-fire.

It is also important to compete with Hamas in the economic sphere, and participants at this week’s international donors’ conference in London should discuss ways to assist the Palestinian Authority. Hamas’s power is increasingly reflecting the old maxim: All politics are local. Two weeks after Abbas won a majority in Gaza, Hamas swept municipal elections there. Hamas, like other Islamist groups in the Middle East, has a proven track record in providing essential social services that the Palestinians were not able to obtain from the government.

To stymie Hamas’s electoral successes, the international donors should ensure that the Palestinian Authority is financially capable of supporting those private- and public-sector groups that could provide key forms of social services in Gaza. Hamas has done well there by creating day care in mosques, supporting dozens of health clinics and supporting Islamist educational institutions. A reformed Palestinian Authority educational system, committed to teaching tolerance, would also merit international support.

Competing with Hamas means showing economic success, and Abbas needs to articulate how nonviolence is validated by economic benefits. Such steps are especially important as Hamas will claim that the Israeli exit is a result of its terror strategy. Conference participants also need to consider infrastructure projects in Gaza; help in that area could also be a task for the Gulf States, which have not fulfilled their commitments made at the Arab summit in Beirut in 2002 to provide emergency assistance to the Palestinian Authority. The Palestinians may be able to help themselves as well, given that the Palestine Investment Fund has recovered a billion dollars from the PLO’s transactions during the Arafat era, when the organization put money in enterprises scattered around the world.

Competing with Hamas also needs to be done at the ballot box. If the mainstream Fatah party in Gaza wants to do better in the parliamentary elections than in January’s municipal polls, it needs new candidates free from the taint of corruption.

Weakening support for Hamas requires a multi-pronged strategy. Opportunities should not be missed to seize this moment and weaken rejectionism.

David Makovsky is a senior fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy.


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By Uwe Siemon-Netto UPI Religious Affairs Editor

Gurat, France, Mar. 1 (UPI) -- There seems to be a growing consensus around the globe that godlessness is in trouble. "Atheism as a theoretical position is in decline worldwide," Munich theologian Wolfhart Pannenberg told United Press International Tuesday.

His Oxford colleague Alister McGrath agrees. Atheism's "future seems increasingly to lie in the private beliefs of individuals rather than in the great public domain it once regarded as its habitat," he wrote in the U.S. magazine, Christianity Today.

Two developments are plaguing atheism these days. One is that it appears to be losing its scientific underpinnings. The other is the historical experience of hundreds of millions of people worldwide that atheists are in no position to claim the moral high ground.

Writes Turkish philosopher Harun Yahya, "Atheism, which people have tried to for hundreds of years as 'the ways of reason and science,' is proving to be mere irrationality and ignorance."

As British philosopher Anthony Flew, once as hard-nosed a humanist as any, mused when turning his back on his former belief: It is, for example, impossible for evolution to account for the fact than one single cell can carry more data than all the volumes of the Encyclopedia Britannica put together.

Flew still does not accept the God of the Bible. But he has embraced the intelligent design concept of scholars such as William Dembski who only four years ago claimed to have been mobbed by pro-evolutionist colleagues at -- of all places -- Baylor University, a highly respected Southern Baptist institution in Waco, Tex.

The stunning desertion of a former intellectual ambassador of secular humanism to the belief in some form of intelligence behind the design of the universe makes Yahya's prediction sound probable: "The time is fast approaching when many people who are living in ignorance with no knowledge of their Creator will be graced by faith in the impending post-atheist world."

A few years ago, European scientists sed when studies in the United States -- for example, at Harvard and Duke universities -- showed a correlation between faith, prayer and recovery from illness. Now 1,200 studies at research centers around the world have come to similar conclusions, according to "Psychologie Heute," a German journal, citing, for example, the marked improvement of multiple sclerosis patients in Germany's Ruhr District do to "spiritual resources."

Atheism's other Achilles heel are the acts on inhumanity and lunacy committed in its name. As McGrath relates in Christianity Today: "With time (atheism) turned out to have just as many frauds, psychopaths, and careerists as religion does. ... With Stalin and Madalyn Murray O'Hair, atheism seems to have ended up mimicking the vices of the Spanish Inquisition and the worst televangelists, respectively."

John Updike's observation, "Among the repulsions of atheism for me has been is drastic uninterestingness as an intellectual position," appears to become common currency throughout much of the West.

The Rev. Paul M. Zulehner, dean of Vienna University's divinity school and one of the world's most distinguished sociologists of religion, told UPI Tuesday: "True atheists in Europe have become an infinitesimally small group. There are not enough of them to be used for sociological research."

The only exceptions to this rule, Zulehner said, are the former East Germany and the Czech Republic, where, as the saying goes, de-Christianization has been the only proven success of these regions' former communist rulers.

Zulehner cautions, however, that in the rest of Europe re-Christianization is by no means occurring. "What we are observing instead is a re-paganization," he went on, and this worries Christian theologians such as Munich's Pannenberg and the Rev. Gerald McDermott, an Episcopal priest and professor of religion and philosophy at Roanoke College in Salem, Va.

For although in every major European city except Paris spirituality is booming, according to Zulehner, this only proves the emergence of a diffuse belief system, Pannenberg said, but not the revitalization of traditional Christian religious faith.

Observing a similar phenomenon in the United States, McDermott stated that the "rise of all sorts of paganism is creating a false spirituality that proves to be a more dangerous rival to the Christian faith than atheism."

After all, a Satanist is also "spiritual."

Pannenberg, a Lutheran, praised the Roman Catholic Church for handling this peril more wisely than many of his fellow Protestants. "The Catholics stick to the central message of Christianity without making any concessions in the ethical realm," he said, referring to issues such as same-sex "marriages" and abortion.

In a similar vain, Zulehner, a Catholic, sees Christianity's greatest opportunity when its message addresses two seemingly irreconcilable quests of contemporary humanity - the quest for freedom and truth.

"Christianity alone affirms that truth and God's dependability are inseparable properties to which freedom is linked."

As for the "peril of spirituality," Zulehner sounded quite sanguine. He concluded from his research that in the long run the survival of worldviews should be expected to follow this lineup:

"The great world religions are best placed," he said. As a distant second he sees the diffuse forms of spirituality. Atheism, he insisted, will come in at the tail end.


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Perfect storm warning

By Arnaud de Borchgrave

Imagine a world where Russia and the European Union of 25 nations, and Russia and China, and the EU and China, all find more in common with each other than with the United States. Unimaginable, you correctly say. But the seeds of such an anti-U.S. entente were planted in Europe last week.

In Brussels, President Bush told the EU3 ? France, the United Kingdom and Germany ? it was their responsibility to quash Iran's nuclear ambitions and the United States would not negotiate directly with the totalitarian theocracy in Tehran. The U.S. position was judged absurd by the EU3 before Mr. Bush arrived. And it was still deemed absurd after he left.

The Europeans argue, with some validity, they do not have the clout, even with economic sanctions, to change Iran's mind. But the U.S. still insisted it cannot legitimize the Iranian clerics by talking to them face to face, let alone offering them a non-aggression pact in return for respecting the non-proliferation treaty they signed and ratified.

Russia, meanwhile, says it is satisfied the mullahs are not playing with nuclear fire and it will go on helping Iran's peaceful nuclear power program. Score one for a rapprochement between the EU and Russia over Iran.

Next comes the EU plan to lift a 15-year-old arms embargo against China next June. Mr. Bush said this would be a mistake, but he is withholding judgment until he sees a promised new EU regime that would carefully regulate nonlethal military sales to China. Until now, EU members have done pretty much what they can get away with. Germany, for example, has sold diesel engines to China for its submarine fleet. This sale was approved on the laughable ground the engines were widely used for civilian purposes all over the world.

Like it or not, say the Europeans, China is headed for superpowerdom in the foreseeable future. Its human-rights record, while still poor, has improved immeasurably since the Tiananmen Square massacre June 4, 1989. The Chinese government doesn't bother anyone who wants to make a fortune in business so long as they keep their nose out of politics. And China has become a global economic behemoth. There is little doubt China will use some of its $200 billion in U.S. Treasury paper to buy the wherewithal to become strong enough to overwhelm Taiwan in a showdown.

The last major crisis between China and what it considers its wayward province came on President Clinton's watch in 1996. As volleys of Chinese missiles plunged into the sea near Taiwan, Mr. Clinton quickly dispatched two carriers to the region. Today, say Pentagon war planners, carriers wouldn't scare Beijing the way they did then. China now has the latest Russian submarine torpedoes that can arc around a carrier, attack from the stern and knock out its giant propellers.

What the Chinese want from European defense industries are the electronics for command and control, as well as communications and surveillance, to achieve command of a modern battle space, the way the U.S. did in Afghanistan and Iraq. Mr. Bush may decide to look the other way to avoid a row with the EU. But Congress has already blown the whistle.

The House recently voted 411-3 to warn the EU if it lifts the arms embargo on China, the U.S. will halt technology transfers to Europe. The Senate will follow suit shortly. The Europeans are now drawing up a list of American "civilian" technology transfers they say have added muscle to China's military girth. Score one for rapprochement between the EU and China.

It is yet to dawn on U.S. gatekeepers that 6.7 percent of Chinese defense imports come from the United States and only 2.7 percent from Europe. Humvees are mass-produced in China for the People's Liberation Army. Rolls Royce engines are in some Chinese fighter-bombers. Russia gets most of China's $15 billion defense market.

On the third front ? Russia's democracy deficit ? cooler heads prevailed, presumably remembering when the Soviet empire imploded in 1991, U.S. advice to the new Russia was to go cold turkey into market economics and democratic politics. The ensuing chaos lasted 10 years. Russia was stripped of $200 billion, assets transferred to the foreign bank accounts of a new class of bandit capitalists. Under Boris Yeltsin, prime ministers came and went, much the way they did in France between the end of World War II and 1958, when Gen. Charles de Gaulle returned to power.

De Gaulle shed France's colonial empire in North Africa and sub-Sahara Africa, dodged assassination attempts, kicked NATO out of France, created a new constitution, and gave France a new lease on life. During the 11 years he governed France, he was half autocrat, half democrat. De Gaulle is Mr. Putin's role model. Putin is half czar, half democrat. Like de Gaulle, who was saddled with a war in Algeria, then part of metropolitan France, Mr. Putin has Chechnya.

Democracy, as understood in Washington, is not on Mr. Putin's agenda. Nor could it be after 1,000 years of authoritarian rule, including 70 years of totalitarian communism. Strong leaders invariably get the nod in Russian public opinion surveys. The score: a draw.

Mercifully, Mr. Putin and President Bush focused instead on the survival of civilization ? combating nuclear terrorism. Russia still has thousands of nukes, some of them still loose, and scores of still insecure nuclear materials storage facilities. Ten billion dollars has been spent in 10 years under Nunn-Lugar legislation to foil would-be terrorists seeking to acquire Russian nuclear knowhow. Another $20 billion ? half from EU and Japan ? has been committed to finish the job by 2010.

CIA Director Porter J. Goss recently testified terrorists "have targeted nuclear weapons storage sites." Former Georgia Democratic Sen. Sam Nunn believes it would be a miracle if leakage has not already occurred. Score: Still playing.

Arnaud de Borchgrave is editor at large of The Washington Times and of United Press International.


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U.S. to Fund Chinese Agency that Aided Iranian, Pakistani Nuke Programs by Timothy P. Carney

Posted Mar 2, 2005

There is an arm of the Chinese government that has repeatedly aided the nuclear weapons programs of Pakistan and Iran. Now that arm is in line for a $5-billion loan deal from the U.S. government--for the benefit of two major U.S. corporations.

The Export-Import Bank of the United States (Ex-Im), an independent federal agency that finances exports, has granted a preliminary commitment for the largest deal in it is history: $5 billion in loans and loan guarantees to the China National Nuclear Corporation