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Middle East - APAP
 
Diplomat Cautions U.S. About Use of Force

By WILLIAM C. MANN, Associated Press Writer

U.N. envoy Lakhdar Brahimi, left, meets French President Jacques Chirac at the Elysee Palace in Paris Saturday, April 24, 2004. Brahimi met Chirac to discuss his plan for an interim Iraqi  government. (AP Photo/Charles Platiau, Pool)


U.N. envoy Lakhdar Brahimi, left, meets French President Jacques Chirac at the Elysee Palace in Paris Saturday, April 24, 2004. Brahimi met Chirac to discuss his plan for an interim Iraqi government. (AP Photo/Charles Platiau, Pool)

Diplomat Cautions U.S. About Use of Force
By WILLIAM C. MANN, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - The United Nations envoy, who is helping draft an Iraqi interim government, urged the Bush administration Sunday to "tread carefully" in besieged Fallujah and avoid alienating an already angry populace.

As for Najaf, one of the holiest cities of Islam's Shiite sect that also is under near siege by U.S. forces, Lakhdar Brahimi warned of a disaster if American soldiers enter the city to hunt down a radical cleric.

"This is a city with a lot of history. It is charged with a huge, huge quantity, if I might, if that's the word for it, of history," Brahimi said on ABC's "This Week."

"Sending the tanks hauling into a place like this is not the right thing to do, and I think the Americans know that extremely well now."

Regarding whether troops should go into the cities, "sometimes there is no substitute for military action," said Sen. Jon Kyl, chairman of the Republican Policy Committee.

But Sen. Joseph Biden, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee said, "If you move in to what is considered one of the holiest cities ... you're probably gotten yourself more trouble."

The two senators also on ABC's "This Week."

Brahimi, in an interview taped Friday in Paris, said as a diplomat, he considers military force the wrong answer for any problem. That's especially the case with Fallujah, west of Baghdad in the so-called Sunni Triangle, and Najaf, in the southern Shiite region, he said.

 

 


Name:   Gina Hayes
To:   Forum

Re:    Thanking god for George Bush and my children
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Name:   Saddle King
To:   Full of it Individual

Re:   Individual: A most enthusiastic, if unconvincing, LIAR!!!
In response to:
Not so fast. The US never needed to "(1) defend the national security of the United States against the continuing threat posed by Iraq;..."

BUT WAIT! THERE'S MORE!

*AND* (2) enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq." IT'S A LIST, INDIVIDUAL!

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Bullsh!t. Re: #1, The Hussein regime was openly and outspokenly a continuing threat to the security of the U.S., besides being a safe harbor and training ground for anti-U.S. terrorists of several nationalities.

What's more, it is entirely moot whether Iraq was or was not a continuing threat to the U.S. vis a vis the use of FORCE, since the Authorization also clearly lists and confers upon the President discretion as to whether or not to use military force to enforce sundry long-ignored and even openly violated U.N. resolutions upon Iraq, IN ADDITION to the authorization regarding the defense of the U.S. against non-enumerated threats posed by Iraq.

Your pathetic attempts to rewrite the Congressional Authorization are obviously politically motivated. No surprise that, you being the disgusting, lying, dissembling POLITICAL HACK that you are. Dipsh!ts like you are destroying the Democratic party.


Name:   WHY IS KERRY LOSING GROUND?
To:   Why are his Poll Numbers getting wobbly?

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THE SAME SPIN & CHEAT, LYING SMEARING PROPAGANDA MACHINE IS BUSY 24/7 telling Lies and Distortions & Ugly Falsehoods about Kerry. It is NO SECRET, that the SAME ATTACKERS who smeared & tried to destroy the Clintons, are NOW WORKING AGAINST John Kerry.

But the stakes are much higher than that. OUR WHOLE LIBERTY as a nation, our DEMOCRACY hangs in the balance.

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PHONEY VETERANS GROUPS ARE GROWING LIKE TOADSTOOLS UPON THE NET, hoping to smear Kerry (who has a REAL war Hero record) so that Bush, the invisible guy who wasn't there, and only flew planes 68 days, (2 months) before disappearing from sight, to go campaign for his Dad's cronies. Trying to make Bush look good. I would be GLAD to give Bush his due honor for serving in the National Guard, (no matter how short a time, -- or his going AWOL, at a time of war) but the right wing has to try to SMEAR a Real Soldier (Kerry) who went into combat, and faced possible death at any moment by enemy Cong snipers & guerillas.

OUR Govt right now, is FUNDING (under CIA agency) the SMEAR campaigns against Kerry. THIS IS ILLEGAL IN EVERY FORM, for the CIA to be used as domestic spying and trying to influence an American election. But under Republican regimes, (Example: Nixon) such felonies & treasonous acts are commonplace. THEY DO NOT BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY, which defined in its simplest terms, means that WE THE PEOPLE have the RIGHT to elect & choose our Leaders, in all three branches of Govt. BUT THE REPUBLICANS only want their right wing Republicans to have the right to vote, or simply to accept the Dictatorship they wish to foist upon us.

The CIA is funding phoney Veterans groups to come out & say Lies and Smears & outright distortions of Kerry, in his character, his personal life, his military record, his ideas, & anything else they can dream up in their wicked machine of ATTACK. They have people whose only JOB is to spread this filth & BS on the internet all day & night, to those gullible to believe them. This EFFORT IS TO TRY TO UNDERMINE Kerry's support by fellow Veterans, which some say number 25 million. A huge voting block, if Bush can manage to swing their vote into his Side.

LOGICALLY, most all Veterans should be proud to vote for Kerry, but by the time the evil ugly CIA "spin machine" (which has been used to disrupt foreign govts, "rig" elections in foreign lands, & even to assassinate foreign leaders) has gotten through putting every word, every idea, every vote, every appliance, every marital alliance, or any thing else thru a SHREDDING machine, --- what is left?

It is the ATTACK, SMEAR, DESTROY, at all costs effort that they have unleashed with their billions of dollars of Campaign Donations. NOT TO MENTION illegally using CIA guys & funds to attack & influence a federal election.

They PAY people to say they are Veterans & write all kinds of articles saying "Why did you do this Kerry?" and why did you do that, kerry?" --- You better apologize to all the vets, Kerry" --- you have all seen that trash.

KERRY DID NOTHING WRONG. I personally knew dozens of vets who honorably served their country, & who came home to protest the war. Many of them were high ranking officers of unquestionable patriotism. THAT WAR was a pile of sh'it & many Govt officials, like McNamara have admitted it.

So why this sudden frenzey of (supposed) Vets uprising against Kerry? It is "paid phoney vets" who make a JOB of doing this propaganda, smear, attack. They give speeches, & sell tapes & books --- making a whole INDUSTRY of PROFIT by smearing Kerry, ---- EXACTLY LIKE THEY DID TO CLINTON.

Whenever you see them doing this en masse, & selling books & tapes, making paid speeches, --- I smell Mellon -Scaife, and other VRWC groups peddling their garbage.

At this critical time in US history, we cannot allow the spin machine of DECEIT, SMEARS, & personal destruction to Manipulate this Election. MORE THAN EVER, we need to be aware, every day, of this Evil Corrupt Republican Machine which seeks to crush us all, taking away Democracy forever from our nation.

A DEMOCRACY WHICH BEGAN in Ancient Greece in 500 B.C. --- "What Athens was in miniature, America will be in Magnitude" -- Thomas Paine.

ARE WE GOING TO LET 228 yrs of proud Democracy & self government "perish from the Earth?" Bush & his gang of Thieves want to achieve that. They don't believe in govt of the people, by the people, for the people.

They believe in Govt of the Wealthy, Govt of the CEO and military-industrial complex, Govt of the investors & lobbyists, -- Govt of the Greedy, of the Hawks, of the men who pretend to be religious, but deep inside their only motive is MONEY and POWER and TAKEOVER of this country.

IF THE REPUBLICANS WIN THIS 2004 ELECTION, we will have to re-build the Statue of Liberty, with her crying into her hankie, while fountains of tears flow down that beautiful copper green statue forever more. Democracy, & Liberty will be forever lost. ---- We let them steal it from us. We LET IT DIE, without a shout, without a scream, without a whimper. WILL WE???? WILL WE SHOUT & SCREAM as they let our Liberty, our Freedom, our Democracy DIE???


Name:   Citizen 698458765
To:   Delete Bordertex's Lies Against the Leader

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OUR Govt right now, is FUNDING (under CIA agency) the SMEAR campaigns against Kerry. THIS IS ILLEGAL IN EVERY FORM, for the CIA to be used as domestic spying and trying to influence an American election. But under Republican regimes, (Example: Nixon) such felonies & treasonous acts are commonplace. THEY DO NOT BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY, which defined in its simplest terms, means that WE THE PEOPLE have the RIGHT to elect & choose our Leaders, in all three branches of Govt. BUT THE REPUBLICANS only want their right wing Republicans to have the right to vote, or simply to accept the Dictatorship they ...

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This person must be on crack.....


Name:   Citizen 1987764533
To:   Please Stop Bordertex before its to late

Re:    Big Brother is watching us
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WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION AS THE ANTI WAR AUDIENCE WHETHER IT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO PRESERVE LIFE THAN CAUSE DEATH IN A REGION WHERE ALREADY ENOUGH AMERICAN BLOOD HAS BEEN SHED OR WHETHER HE IS GOING TO CONTINUE THE SLAUGHTER HE STARTED IN IRAQ TO THE EYES OF THE WORLD AND AT WHAT POINT WILL HIS THIRST FOR HUMAN BLOODSHED END?

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Soon the Imperialist forces of the dark side will come to destroy gods children and to silence the message of truth.Please run now! Hide! I can hear the foot steps of the storm trooper approach!!!


Name:   Kerry
To:   buigs

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http://www.wwiidaybyday.com/ John Kerry claims to have support from foreign leaders. Who are those leaders?

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All those leaders that see what a mess Bush has made of Iraq and this economy.


Name:   Kerry
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The Democratic Party makes excuse after excuse for Kerry LIES.

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The Republican Party is making excuse after excuse for Bush LIES. How about his AWOL, alcoholism, knocking up his girlfriend and forcing her to have an abortion, drunk driving, insider trading, to name just a few.

Even the Republicans are beginning to see Bush and his team as blunderers in the Iraq war. No intelligent Republican can say this war is going well. Bush went in with messianiac delusions about himself as being the chosen by God to fulfil some crazy messianic end-times scheme where he and his followers would be swept up to heaven in The Rapture, so he forgot to design an exit strategy. He assumed God would do that for him. Bush believed winning in Iraq was already preordained by God. Bush belongs in a mental asylum.


Name:   AMERICAN
To:   FORUM

Re:   JUST THE FACTS
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The world stands at a historical moment of greatest drama. We look on while a war-crazed government pursues an aggressive war and a bombing strategy of “shock and awe."

Our time demands protest and acts of peace from all corners of our planet. We must stand in solidarity against this illegal and immoral war of aggression.

The American Imperialist government must not accomplish its goals of domination and George WAKLKER Empire.

We will continue our campaign for strike actions at the universities and take active part at the peace demonstrations, rallies etc.

We wish you much success in our common struggle. If you want the world to be a better place to live in, start to do something about it yourself, you could start to boycott the crminal US State who are violate basic human rights, or doing other stupid things, (like cruelty to animals, or environmental pollution). BUSH MUST BE STOPPED!

BUSH, who violates basic human rights, is a dictatorship, where there is a military regime. The word "democracy" is enough for yourself or you family to end up in prison, get torture, or killed.

If you wont to help, you can stop to do business with firms, who are doing business with the worst dictatorship corperations. You got better conscience, because you will help a lot of people in this country, to get democracy.ThT GEORGE BUSH AND HIS STOLEN ELECTION FROM ALBERT GORE.


Name:   AMERICAN
To:   FORUM

Re:   BUSH MUST BE STOPPED
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I will constantly send this message, that the world society will not accepta government who use murder, torture or other violence against the population. Teaching the firms not to do business with dictatorship, murderer and crimina ls, because they can make more money if they are dealing with democratic state.Imperialism has been experienced by numerous countries and peoples across the globe.

The human species faces an apparent paradox. We have embraced economic growth as our primary indicator of human progress. Yet as economic output and consumption grow the number of people forced into lives of dehumanizing deprivation increases and the quality of life of all but the wealthiest among us declines.

The reason is as simple as it is disturbing. Sometime toward the end of the Twentieth Century the human species passed over a critical threshold in its relationship to our home planet.

Humanity's collective demand on the regenerative capacity of Earth’s ecosystem grew to exceed the limit of what can be sustained. The more the economy grows the greater the demand, the more rapid the depletion of the living systems that are the source of all real wealth, and the more intense the unequal competition between rich and poor for what remains — a competition the poor invariably lose.

Travelers on a living spaceship, humans continue to live like cowboys on an open frontier — living out an old story in a new era. In deep denial and captive to the imperatives of global corporations and financial markets that value money more than life, those who hold positions of institutional power remain resolutely committed to policies that enrich themselves, but impoverish people, community, and planet. To create a world that works for all, public policy must give priority not to aggregate growth, but to using the resources of planet and society equitably and sustainably to provide healthy, fulfilling lives for all people and other living beings. It means reorganizing economic life to produce more of the things that people need — like food, shelter, clothing, education, and health care — and less of the costly things we do not — like military hardware, pollution, traffic jams, and crime.

Hope for the human future rests, therefore, not with institutions of power, but with the millions of individuals all around the world who are awakening, as if from a deep trance, to the reality of our collective crisis. Acting out of love, compassion, and a deep sense of responsibility to people and planet, they are rejecting the disempowering mantra that there is no alternative to a dysfunctional status quo, putting their bodies on the line to stall the forces of corporate globalization, and living a new story into being. They see the human future as a matter of choice, not destiny, and seek a world that works for every person and the whole of life.


Name:   Individual
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Your pathetic attempts to rewrite the Congressional Authorization are obviously politically motivated.

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Reading is fundamental. I allowed for at least two interpretations. And I said that if Kerry were dumb enough to vote for an authorization which would allow Bush to use deadly force to enforce UN resolutions that the security council wouldn't enforce, then this should be known. Authorizing Bush to use force when the UN security council wouldn't is a very dangerous precedent.

I can see the security council not passing any resolutions because they are afraid that the U.S. will bomb somebody if the resolutions aren't followed. By the way, exactly which U.N. resolutions were being violated at the time Bush gave the order to go to war in Iraq?


Name:   Individual
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Why are his Poll Numbers getting wobbly?

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According to Zogby, Kerry's poll numbers are getting "wobbly" because of Ralph Nader. Without Nader included, Kerry leads Bush by 3%. With Nader included, it is a tie.


Name:   Help us all
To:   BUSH Vanderbilt's

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The United States and George W. BUSH has pursued an aggressive policy of expansionism, extending its political and economic influence around the globe.Any country whose people conduct themselves well can count upon our hearty friendship. American interests scatter across the globe. America had flexed its muscles, and the world had cowered.I hope BUSH IS HAPPY? Dominant politico-economic interests of BUSH expropriate for their own enrichment the land, labor, raw materials, and markets of another people. To say that we have entered the stage of capital export and investment is not to imply that the plunder of natural resources has ceased. If anything, the despoliation has accelerated.


Name:   AMERICAN
To:   STOP BUSH

Re:    LEAVE IRAQ
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We are asked to believe that it always existed, that poor countries are poor because their lands have always been infertile or their people unproductive.

In fact, the lands of Asia, Africa, and Latin America have long produced great treasures of foods, minerals and other natural resources. That is why the Europeans went through all the trouble to steal and plunder them. One does not go to poor places for self-enrichment. The Third World is rich. Only its people are poor--and it is because of the pillage they have endured.

The process of expropriating the natural resources of the Third World began centuries ago and continues to this day. First, the colonizers extracted gold, silver, furs, silks, and spices, then flax, hemp, timber, molasses, sugar, rum, rubber, tobacco, calico, cocoa, coffee, cotton, copper, coal, palm oil, tin, iron, ivory, ebony, and later on, oil, zinc, manganese, mercury, platinum, cobalt, bauxite, aluminum, and uranium. Not to be overlooked is that most hellish of all expropriations: the abduction of millions of human beings into slave labor.

Through the centuries of colonization, many self-serving imperialist theories have been spun. I was taught in school that people in tropical lands are slothful and do not work as hard as we denizens of the temperate zone. In fact, the inhabitants of warm climates have performed remarkably productive feats, building magnificent civilizations well before Europe emerged from the Dark Ages. And today they often work long, hard hours for meager sums. Yet the early stereotype of the "lazy native" is still with us. In every capitalist society, the poor--both domestic and overseas--regularly are blamed for their own condition.

We hear that Third World peoples are culturally retarded in their attitudes, customs, and technical abilities. It is a convenient notion embraced by those who want to depict Western investments as a rescue operation designed to help backward peoples help themselves. This myth of "cultural backwardness" goes back to ancient times, when conquerors used it to justify enslaving indigenous peoples. It was used by European colonizers over the last five centuries for the same purpose.


Name:   UK Telegraph
Re:   Iraq has enough troubles without adding the UN
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Any deal between Saddam Hussein and the United Nations carried a grave element of risk. On the one hand, you had an amoral dictator concerned only with saving his skin; on the other, an international body notorious for its lack of public accountability. The decision to ease economic sanctions against Iraq, allowing the sale of oil in order to generate funds for humanitarian relief, was taken soon after the Gulf war. For years, Saddam simply ignored it. It was only at the end of 1996 that the oil-for-food programme was finally implemented. As might be expected, the dictator exploited the UN’s flagging resolve to contain him for all it was worth. Oil smuggling provided hundreds of millions of dollars for the benefit of the regime rather than the nutritional and medical needs of the population. And it is now being alleged that this money was used to buy foreign political support.

In written testimony yesterday to a subcommittee of the American House of Representatives, Claude Hankes-Drielsma said the UN had failed in its responsibility to the Iraqi people in administering the oil-for-food programme. He attached a letter sent by him to Kofi Annan, the Secretary-General, last February indicating that 10 per cent and more was added to the value of all invoices under the programme, thus providing Saddam with as much as $4 billion in cash. Mr Hankes-Drielsma, a British adviser to the Iraqi Governing Council, quoted non-governmental organisations as saying that some of the food delivered was unfit for humans and that the medicine was often out of date. “Much of the corruption and mismanagement under the almost $64 billion… programme could have been prevented… had the UN recognised the importance of public accountability,” he concluded.

These are devastating criticisms of a body already held in low esteem by Iraqis. Yet the occupying powers have agreed that the UN should appoint the members of a transitional government that will succeed the American-nominated Iraqi Governing Council after the transfer of executive power on June 30. The world body is being given a leading role in Iraq just as the scandal over its administration of the oil-for-food programme is gathering momentum. In the run-up to June 30, five separate investigations will look into claims that 270 individuals, companies and institutions were bribed by Saddam. Two have been mounted by the American House of Representatives and one by the Senate. In addition, the Iraqi Governing Council has commissioned a report from the auditors KPMG, and Mr Annan has asked Paul Volcker, former chairman of the US Federal Reserve, to head a UN inquiry.

There are enough problems attendant on the birth of democracy in Iraq without burdening the country with an organisation that proved so inadequate in confronting the previous dictatorship, whether over oil for food or defiance of Security Council resolutions. George W Bush and Tony Blair may welcome shedding the odious status of occupiers. But they should be under no illusions that the UN will prove an adequate substitute. Given its record in the Balkans and the Middle East, their continuing faith in that body as providing a unique cloak of legitimacy is astonishing.


Name:   Individual
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Why are his Poll Numbers getting wobbly?

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Speaking of wobbly poll numbers: what about Bush? According to Zogby Bush's approval ratings have been pathetic. Over the last four pollings, Bush's ratings have been as follows:

Positive: 51%, 46%, 47%, 47%

Negative: 48%, 53%, 52%, 52%.

Maybe people are catching on to this deplorable politician.


Name:   American
To:   Communist Dreamweaver

Re:   Entitlements
In response to:
We hear that Third World peoples are culturally retarded in their attitudes, customs, and technical abilities. It is a convenient notion embraced by those who want to depict Western investments as a rescue operation designed to help backward peoples help themselves. This myth of "cultural backwardness" goes back to ancient times, when conquerors used it to justify enslaving indigenous peoples. It was used by European colonizers over the last five centuries for the same purpose.

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We must stop insulting these people with "Foreign Aid" at once! We must demand that they share their wealth with us! They are wealthy, therefore we are ENTITLED TO OUR FAIR SHARE OF THAT WEALTH!! It is high time the Third World paid its fair share!!


Name:   Saddle King
To:   Political Hack & Collectivist Expropriator

Re:   U.N. : The new Tower of Babel. Of, by, and for politicians.
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I can see the security council not passing any resolutions because they are afraid that the U.S. will bomb somebody if the resolutions aren't followed

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They can blow it out their big fat lobster-fed asses and eat it hot for all I care. The whole scheming pack of them, including the U.S. delegation, isn't worth the shit it would take to cover them up.


Name:   Somebody Gets It
Re:   Finger-pointing before 9/11 panel is hurting nation, helping foes
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By Zell Miller April 25, 2004

Finger-pointing before 9/11 panel is hurting nation, helping foes

After watching the harsh acrimony generated by the September 11 Commission – which, let me say at the outset, is made up of good and able members – I've come to seriously question this panel's usefulness. I believe it will ultimately play a role in doing great harm to this country, for its unintended consequences, I fear, will be to energize our enemies and demoralize our troops.

After being drowned in a tidal wave of all who didn't do enough before 9/11, I have come to believe that the commission should issue a report that says: "No one did enough in the past. No one did near enough."

Then thank everyone for serving, send them home and let's get on with the job of protecting this country in the future. Tragically, these hearings have proved to be a very divisive diversion for this country. Tragically, they have devoured valuable time, looking backward when we should be looking forward.

Can you imagine handling the attack on Pearl Harbor this way? Can you imagine Congress, the media and the public standing for this kind of political gamesmanship and finger-pointing after that "day of infamy" in 1941? Some partisans tried that ploy, but they were soon quieted by the patriots who understood how important it was to get on with the war and take the battle to America's enemies, and not dwell on what FDR knew when.

You see, back then the highest priority was to win a war, not win an election. That's what made them "The Greatest Generation."

I realize that many well-meaning Americans see the hearings as "democracy in action." Years ago, when I was teaching political science, I probably would have had my class watching it live on television and using that very phrase with them.

There are also the not-so-well-meaning political operatives who see these hearings as an opportunity to score cheap points. Then, there are the Media Meddlers who see this as great theater that can be played out on the evening news and on endless talk shows for a week or more. Congressional hearings have long been one of Washington's most entertaining pastimes. Joe McCarthy. Watergate. Iran Contra. They all kept us glued to the TV, and made for conversation around the water coolers and arguments over a beer at the corner pub.

A congressional hearing in Washington, D.C. is the ultimate aphrodisiac for political groupies and partisan punks. But, it's not the groupies, punks and television-sotted American public that I'm worried about.

No, it is the real enemies of America that I'm concerned about. These evil killers who right now are gleefully watching the shrill partisan finger-pointing of these hearings and grinning like a mule eating briars.

They see this as a major split within the Great Satan America. They see anger, they see division, instability, bickering, peevishness and dissension. They see the president of the United States hammered unmercifully. They see all this and they are greatly, greatly encouraged.

We should not be doing anything to encourage our enemies in this battle between good and evil. Yet, these hearings, in my opinion, are doing just that.

We are playing with fire. We're playing directly into the hands of our enemy by allowing these hearings to become the great divider they have become.

Clarke's book and its release coinciding with these hearings have done this country a tremendous disservice, and someday we will reap its whirlwind. Long ago, Sir Walter Scott observed that revenge is "the sweetest morsel that ever was cooked in hell." The vindictive Clarke has now had his revenge, but what kind of hell has he, his CBS publisher and his axe-to-grind advocates unleashed?

These hearings, coming on the heels of the election the terrorists influenced in Spain, bolster and energize our evil enemies as they have not been energized since 9/11.

Chances are very good that these evil enemies of America will attempt to influence our 2004 election in a similar dramatic way as they did Spain's. And to think that could never be in this country is to stick your head in the sand.

That is why the sooner we stop this endless bickering over the past and join together to prepare for the future, the better off this country will be. There are some things – whether the city of Washington believes it or not – that are just more important than political campaigns.

The recent past is so ripe for political second-guessing "gotcha" and Monday morning quarter-backing. And it is so tempting in an election year. We should not allow ourselves to indulge that temptation. We should put our country first.

Every administration from Jimmy Carter to George W. Bush bears some of the blame. Clarke bears a big heap of it because it was he who was in the catbird's seat to do something about it for more than a decade. Tragically, it was the decade in which we did the least.

We did nothing after terrorists attacked the World Trade Center in 1993, killing six and injuring more than 1,000 Americans.

We did nothing in 1996 when 16 U.S. servicemen were killed in the bombing of the Khobar Towers.

When our embassies were attacked in 1998, killing 263 people, our only response was to fire a few missiles on an empty tent.

Is it any wonder that after that decade of weak-willed responses to that murderous terror, our enemies thought we would never fight back?

In the 1990s is when Clarke should have resigned. In the 1990s is when he should have apologized. That is when he should have written his book. That is, if he really had America's best interest at heart.

Some will say, "We owe it to the families" to get more information about what happened in the past and I can understand that. But no amount of finger-pointing will bring our victims back. So, now we owe it to future families and all of America now in jeopardy not to encourage more terrorists, resulting in even more grieving families, perhaps many more than the ones of 9/11.

It's obvious to me that this country is rapidly dividing itself into two camps: the wimps and the warriors.

The ones who want to argue and assess and appease, and the ones who want to carry this fight to our enemies and kill them before they kill us. And, in case you haven't figured it out, I proudly belong to the latter.

This is a time like no other in the history of this country, and this country is being crippled with petty partisan politics of the worst possible kind. In time of war, it is not just unpatriotic; it is stupid, and it is criminal.

So, I pray that all this time, all this energy, all this talk and all this attention could be focused on the future instead of the past.

I pray we would stop pointing fingers, assigning blame and wringing our hands about what happened on that day David McCullogh has called "the worst day in our history" more than two years ago. And instead, pour all of our energy into how we can kill these terrorists before they kill us – again.

For make no mistake. They watch these hearings. They are scheming and smiling about the distraction and the divisiveness they see in America. And while they may not know who said it years ago in America, they know instinctively that a house divided cannot stand.

There is one other group that we should remember is listening to all of this – our troops.

I was in Iraq in January and one day when I was meeting with the 1st Armored Division, a unit with a proud history known as Old Ironsides, we were discussing troop morale, and the commanding general said it was top notch.

And I turned to the division's sergeant major, the top enlisted man in the division, a big, burly, 6-foot-3, 240-pound African-American. And I said, "That's good, but how do you sustain that kind of morale?"

Without hesitation he narrowed his eyes, and he looked at me and said "The morale will stay high just as long as these troops know the people back home support us."

Just as long as the people back home support us. What kind of message are these hearings and the outrageously political speeches on the floor of the Senate sending to those marvelous young Americans in the uniform of our country?

I say, unite America! Before it is too late! Put aside these petty partisan differences when it comes to the protection of our people. Argue and argue and argue and debate and debate and debate over all the other things – jobs and education and the deficit and the environment – but please, please do not use the lives of Americans and the security of this country as a cheap-shot political talking point.

Miller, a Democrat, is the senior U.S. senator from Georgia. This commentary was taken from recent remarks Miller delivered on the Senate floor.


Name:   President Saddam Hussein
To:   All

Re:   Saddle King
In response to:
They can blow it out their big fat lobster-fed asses and eat it hot for all I care. The whole scheming pack of them, including the U.S. delegation, isn't worth the it would take to cover them up.

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Concerning the United Nations, I must agree with this American infidel. My command of English is insufficient to allow me to fully express my contempt for the United Nations. My most enjoyable hours as President of Iraq were spent rubbing both the United States' and the United Nations' noses into the crack of my butt! I made a whore of the United Nations! The whole world watched for twelve years as I humiliated them, each and both, U.N. and U.S., again and again and yet again! Then Bush came along and ruined everything!


Name:   Help is Here
To:   Help us All

In response to:
The United States and George W. BUSH has pursued an aggressive policy of expansionism, extending its political and economic influence around the globe.

Message:
Huh? Your friend Saddam attacked Iran, invaded Kuwait and had his beady eyes on Saudi Arabia. Now go blow your daddy.


Name:   Red China
To:   Pousseyfart

In response to:
The United States and George W. BUSH has pursued an aggressive policy of expansionism, extending its political and economic influence around the globe.

Message:
Odd, isn't it?


Name:   Leonid Brehznev
To:   Little Squirt

Re:   Im shocked! SHOCKED, I TELL YOU!!
In response to:
The United States and George W. BUSH has pursued an aggressive policy of expansionism, extending its political and economic influence around the globe.

Message:
You don't say!


Name:   Poetry in Motion
In response to:
A Poem: DO NOT GO GENTLY INTO THAT DARK NIGHT

Message:

When Men of evil, misuse their might,

Do not go gentle into that dark night.

Brave men, near death, who see with blinding sight

Their eyes could blaze like meteors, as they fight,

Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

And you, my Father, there on that sad height,

Bless me now with your fierce tears, I pray.

Do not go gentle into that dark night.

Rage, rage against the dying of the light."


Name:   U.N. Scandal
Message:
The United Nations food for oil scandal is very bad news for Kerry who thought it was a great idea to turn Iraq over to them. But the war is going in Iraq is bad news for Bush.

Who's left to run this country? Hillary Clinton.

It's a shame she bowed out.


Name:   To: Zell Miller
To:   ex-Democrat, now turncoat shill for Republicans

Re:   (one can only wonder at the type of bribe used)
In response to:
Claims that he talked to marine sergeant on the battlefield of Iraq, & asked how was the Morale of the Troops? Then he claims the Sgt replied: "Top notch, sir". Zell then says how did they Manage to Keep up that High Morale over there? And the Sgt said, - "as long as the American people fully support them, they will manage to keep it up"

Message:
Well, as poor old Zell declines into senility, he does lose some of his brain power.

For example, to think that any Army or Marine Sgt is FREE to tell the Truth about the Morale of the Troops to a United States Senator, --- is really naiive.

Under Military Code of Justice, troops cannot ever say any word against their President, their flag, & anything else much, without risking court martial. So of course they will give you a "Yes Sir, Yes Sir, 3 bags Full" answer.

It is just more hype applied to squelch our freedom to express our opinions here at Home. To try to say "If we dare to express our Constitutional rights to Free Speech, which includes our Right to Criticize the Govt, or any of our Leaders, or even the President & his War Policy, -- that this somehow deflates "morale" of our troops in Iraq.

Hogwash. Unless our troops fell off a turnip truck on a windy day, were morons in the extreme, they realize and appreciate our most fundamental rights & our RESPONSIBILITY and sacred Duty, to always tell the Truth, & to keep our boys safe, -- We SUPPORT OUR TROOPS by wanting them to come home ALIVE. That is much better support than saying, "Well, we love you boys, but you gotta die". While all of us know there is legitimate controversy over the legal rationale for this war. NO WAY is somebody going to convince ME that we must all stifle ourselves, betraying our very rights as citizens, for some stupid phoney idea of hurting "morale".

What REALLY hurts morale, is the knowledge that they must stay in Iraq for months & months, with lousy pay, and potential of being wounded or killed, for NO GOOD REASON. MOST INTELLIGENT SOLDIERS KNOW THAT OUR PROTESTING THIS WAR will HELP TO END IT, so they can COME HOME. And if they have ANY common sense, they will WELCOME that day. Amen.


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Re:   Hillary at the women's rights rally
Message:

"This administration is filled with people who disparage sexual harassment laws, who claim the pay gap between women and men is phony, ... who consider Roe v. Wade The worst abomination of constitutional law in our history." — Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y.


Name:   HILLARY SUPPORTER
Message:
Hillary Clinton speaks out at march 4/25/2004 1:46 PM
By: Capital News 9 web staff

Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton said today's March for Women's Lives in Washington will mean nothing if supporters don't back it up by going to the polls in November.

The New York Democrat urged the tens of thousands who gathered to register to vote and encourage others to do the same.

At a breakfast before the rally, Clinton made powerful accusations against the Bush administration.

She said it is filled with people who "disparage sexual harassment laws" -- and claim the pay gap "between men and women is phony."

Clinton also said some members of the Bush administration view the landmark Roe versus Wade abortion ruling as "the worst abomination of constitutional law."

An estimated 750,000 people are expected to converge on the nation's capital today.

Opponents of abortion rights are gathering as well. More than 100 assembled along a portion of the parade route.

Copyright 2004 Associated Press, All rights reserved.


Name:   WHAT IS AT STAKE in 2004
To:   Attacking Kerry is JOB ONE for Bush $$ Machine

In response to:
FIGHT AGAINST THE EVIL SPIN MACHINES that are PAID for by BUSH and his $200 million Donations from special interests, tobacco co's, drug companies, Hawks, & crooked CEO's --

THAT RELENTLESS ATTACK PROPAGANDA NETWORK, that 24/7 will spew "disinformation" & distorted twisted Lies.

Message:

At this critical time in US history, we cannot allow the spin machine of DECEIT, SMEARS, & personal destruction to Manipulate this Election. MORE THAN EVER, we need to be aware, every day, of this Evil Corrupt Republican Machine which seeks to crush us all, taking away Democracy forever from our nation.

A DEMOCRACY WHICH BEGAN in Ancient Greece in 500 B.C. --- "What Athens was in miniature, America will be in Magnitude" -- Thomas Paine.

ARE WE GOING TO LET 228 yrs of proud Democracy & self government "perish from the Earth?" Bush & his gang of Thieves want to achieve that. They don't believe in govt of the people, by the people, for the people.

They believe in Govt of the Wealthy, Govt of the CEO and military-industrial complex, Govt of the investors & lobbyists, -- Govt of the Greedy, of the Hawks, of the men who pretend to be religious, but deep inside their only motive is MONEY and POWER and TAKEOVER of this country.

IF THE REPUBLICANS WIN THIS 2004 ELECTION, we will have to re-build the Statue of Liberty, with her crying into her hankie, while fountains of tears flow down that beautiful copper green statue forever more. Democracy, & Liberty will be forever lost. ---- We let them steal it from us. We LET IT DIE, without a shout, without a scream, without a whimper. WILL WE???? WILL WE SHOUT & SCREAM as they let our Liberty, our Freedom, our Democracy DIE???


Name:   Saddle King
To:   Merci Moi

Re:   Raw crap from Baghdad Moo
In response to:
What REALLY hurts morale, is the knowledge that they must stay in Iraq for months & months, with lousy pay, and potential of being wounded or killed, for NO GOOD REASON. MOST INTELLIGENT SOLDIERS KNOW THAT OUR PROTESTING THIS WAR will HELP TO END IT, so they can COME HOME. And if they have ANY common sense, they will WELCOME that day. Amen.

Message:
You are a damned fool, Moo. You must think (or imagine) that U.S. soldiers are pissants like you. For your information, Ms. MOO, Getting home ASAP is NOT the mission. They were HOME when they opted to sign up to serve in the United States Military. a hippopotamus full of green persimmons with a bad case of the intestinal flu! t bush can have a political agenda

what a sorry country we have become


Name:   Hillary Supprter
Message:

Hillary for President - The faster women take charge is the faster we will have world peace.


Name:   Uncle Sam
To:   Monarchist Tool

Re:   Idiocy , Lies, and Personality Cultism
In response to:
Who's left to run this country? Hillary Clinton

Message:
Ever hear of "government of the people, by the people, for the people"?

PS: Democracy SUCKS! Thomas Paine said as much.


Name:   Wermacht
To:   Individual

Re:   Google, Everyman's encyclopedia
In response to:
By the way, exactly which U.N. resolutions were being violated at the time Bush gave the order to go to war in Iraq? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Message:
Look it up, Teach, and report to the class! (I suspect that a three-word sentence would answer your pointless question)


Name:   Tired Old Joke
Message:

 

"Hillary Clinton's 506-page memoir has come out.  So much of her personality shines through, that in the end, you, too, will want to sleep with an intern."
- Craig Kilborn

"In Hillary Clinton's new book 'Living History,' Hillary details what it was like meeting Bill Clinton, falling in love with him, getting married, and living a passionate,  wonderful life as husband and wife. Then on page two, the trouble starts."
- Jay Leno

"Hillary Clinton, our junior senator from New York, announced that she has no intentions of ever, ever running for office of the President of the United States. Her husband, Bill Clinton, is bitterly disappointed.  He is crushed. There go his dreams of becoming a two-impeachment family."
- David Letterman

"Last night, Senator Hillary Clinton hosted her first party in her new home in Washington.  People said it was a lot like the parties she used to host at the White House. In fact, even the furniture was the same."
- Jay Leno

"Senator Hillary Clinton is attacking President Bush for breaking his campaign promise to cut carbon dioxide emissions, saying a promise made, a promise broken. And then out of habit, she demanded that Bush spend the night on the couch."
- Late, Late Show host Craig Kilborn
 
"CNN found that Hillary Clinton is the most admired woman in America. Women admire her because she's strong and successful. Men admire her because she allows her husband to cheat and get away with it."
- Jay Leno

"Hillary Clinton is the junior senator from the great state of New York. When they swore her in, she used the Clinton family Bible. You know the one with only seven commandments."
- David Letterman

 

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One For the Team
Pat Tillman—Football Star, Ranger—Did Not Aspire to Heroism. But His Life Defined it

AP/ARIZONA CARDINALS

After his death, the White House put out a statement of sympathy that praised Tillman as "an inspiration both on and off the football field."

Sunday, Apr. 25, 2004
Last December, a few days before the Arizona Cardinals were set to play the Seattle Seahawks, Dave McGinnis, then the Cardinals' head coach, got a call from U.S. Army Specialist Pat Tillman. Eighteen months after trading his Cardinals jersey for government-issue camouflage and six months after returning from a tour of duty in Iraq, Tillman was back with his 75th Army Ranger Regiment at its base in Fort Lewis, Wash. Soon he would ship out again, this time to Afghanistan. But now he wanted to come see his old team play. The night before the game, Tillman showed up at McGinnis' Seattle hotel room along with his wife Marie and his brother Kevin, who had signed up and fought with him in the same unit in Iraq. Two other friends were also in tow. Both brothers were taking part in a three-month Ranger training program. "Pat told me right off," says McGinnis, 'Coach, there are some things I can talk about and some things I just can't.'"

After the game (which the Cardinals lost, 28-10), McGinnis asked Tillman to appear in the locker room. Ever reluctant to grandstand or play the hero, he agreed to meet the players but not to address them formally as a group. "When he walked in, there was just a tremendous amount of respect," says McGinnis. "I can still see vividly in my mind each player shaking his hand, everyone saying thank you and touching his shoulder." They may have wanted to make sure he was real. After all, this was the man who had walked away from a $3.6 million three-year contract with the Cardinals because there was another uniform he wanted to wear. In a culture obsessed with money, there's something hard to believe about a person who turns down that kind of offer for an $18,000- a-year job with the Army. And in a culture obsessed with fame, we hardly know what to do with a guy who doesn't even capitalize on the story. From the minute he decided to sign up, Tillman refused interview requests. What he did wasn't a publicity stunt. It wasn't a career move. It was that ancient, compelling thing—a sacrifice.

What we realize now is that there was a larger sacrifice to come. In Afghanistan last week Tillman was part of Operation Mountain Storm, a campaign launched in March by U.S.-led forces against Taliban and al-Qaeda fighters who have been regrouping in sanctuaries along the border with Pakistan. On Thursday his special-forces unit was on patrol with Afghan militia near the isolated mud-brick village of Spera, about 25 miles southwest of the nearest U.S. firebase, at Khost.

The mountain trails around Spera, where thick pine forests provide cover from U.S. aircraft, have become a major infiltration point for Taliban and al-Qaeda operatives. The watchful locals, members of the Zadran tribe, sympathize with the jihadists. It's ambush country, and some time around 7:30 p.m. Tillman's patrol was attacked. In the 12 to 15 minutes of shooting that followed, two Americans were wounded. An Afghan militia man was killed. So was Tillman. He was 27.

All this week—and for weeks to come—we will talk about Tillman, who went out of his way to discourage such conversation. All soldiers give up something when they enlist. Tillman didn't want to hear that the career he left behind was any more important. But now that he's gone, he will be singled out, for a while anyway. Not just because he was one of the few famous faces in an all-volunteer Army that doesn't attract many. But because his sacrifice can stand for those made by all the others. And because we wonder if we could do what he—and they—have done.

Tillman grew up in San Jose, Calif., where his father Pat Sr. is a lawyer and former college wrestler. Like a lot of young Californians, the long-haired Pat Jr. could embody the surfer dude. In fact, dude was one of his favorite words. His other favorite word isn't printable. Cargo shorts, flip-flops and T shirts were his standard outfit. But at Arizona State University, he had the brains to get his marketing degree in 31/2 years—and with a 3.84-grade-point average. At school he got into the habit of climbing at night up the narrow ladder of a 200-ft. light tower at Sun Devil Stadium. He would perch at the top, look at the stars and wonder where he was headed. Everybody's favorite story from his high school football career involves the game in which his team was so far ahead that his coach decided to bench the starters for the second half. But Tillman—a starter—still needed to play. As the half began, he snuck back onto the field and returned the kickoff for a touchdown. His coach was so upset at the stunt that he locked Tillman's helmet in the team bus to keep him sidelined.

In the fall of 1993, as a high school senior, Tillman got into a more serious kind of trouble. Coming to the defense of a friend involved in a fight outside a pizza parlor, he beat his adversary so severely that he was eventually arrested and charged as a juvenile with felony assault. Tillman entered a guilty plea, and the following summer spent 30 days in a juvenile-detention facility, all the while worrying that he might lose the scholarship offered him by Arizona State. He didn't, and on his release his conviction was reduced to a misdemeanor. Years later he discussed the episode with a writer from Sports Illustrated. "I learned more from that one bad decision than all the good decisions I've ever made," he said. "It made me realize that stuff you do has repercussions. You can lose everything."

All the same, at ASU, where few people knew of the arrest, they called him the Hitman—but this time, for what he did on the field. He lacked both the size of a typical college linebacker and the speed of a running back, but he was dogged and smart. In his senior year Tillman was named Pac-10 Conference Defensive Player of the Year —no small trick for a guy who weighed 202 lbs. in a world where your average lineman looks like a major appliance with a helmet. When a reporter congratulated him, Tillman admitted that he was proud to win but allowed that the whole thing had him a little worried that he might "start being happy" with himself. "And then I'll stand still, and then I'm old news."

Standing still just wasn't something he did. People talk about Tillman's charisma and his instantly authoritative manner. In 1995 Mike McBride was still new to his job as an academic counselor in ASU's athletic department when Tillman, a shaggy-haired freshman, first walked into his office to ask him how many classroom hours he would need to graduate. When McBride told him, Tillman shot back that it was McBride's job to make sure he didn't do any more or any less. "I had a weird reaction," says McBride. "I almost said, 'Yes, sir'—except he had that surfer hairdo."

Tillman made a career out of turning no into yes. His college football coach Bruce Snyder told Tillman that he might have to redshirt him—hold him back—for his first year. Perhaps Snyder was expecting him to grow. "He looked me dead in the eye and said, 'Coach, I'm not going to redshirt.' I thought he didn't understand what I meant," says  Snyder, "so I started to explain it. But he said, 'Coach, you don't have to play me. I'm going to graduate in four years, so as long as I'm around, use me as it comes along.'" In 1997 Tillman helped the Sun Devils come achingly close to a national championship in that year's Rose Bowl. All the same, prior to the NFL draft the following year, the labels "too small" and "too slow" still clung to him. He came to the Cardinals as a seventh-round pick, 226th out of 241 overall. His signing bonus was meal money by NFL standards, just $21,000. Since he didn't have a car, he commuted to the Cards' training camp riding his green Schwinn bicycle. "But you couldn't tell him he couldn't make it in the NFL", recalls Kwamie Lassiter, one of Tillman's former teammates. "Tell him he can play for three years, and he'll play four just to show you he can. Whatever challenge came up, he hit it head on."

In 2000 Tillman established a team record of 224 tackles in a single season. The next year he turned down a five-year, $9 million-contract offer from the Super Bowl champion St. Louis Rams out of loyalty to the eternally underachieving Cardinals. But after Sept. 11, Tillman started thinking about larger loyalties. On the day after the attack he spoke about family members who had gone to war, like his great-grandfather who was at Pearl Harbor. "I haven't done a damn thing as far as laying myself on the line like that," he said. "So I have a great deal of respect for those that have."

Tillman's agent Frank Bauer got the first inkling that something was brewing with his client in a phone conversation in March 2002, while he was in the midst of negotiating the $3.6 million deal with the Cardinals. "Pat said, 'Hey, Frank, do me a favor. Worry about your other clients. Don't worry about me. I'm thinking about doing something else.'" In May, after returning from a honeymoon trip to the South Pacific island of Bora Bora with his wife Marie, Tillman enlisted, along with his brother Kevin, a minor league baseball player. Determined to avoid publicity, they began the process in Denver, where Pat might not be recognized. But the inevitable news still stunned many people. Tillman was one of the very few active NFL players to volunteer for military service since World War II, in which 638 NFL players served and 19 died.

Despite his All-American story, he turned down a multitude of TV, movie and book deals. Last July, when both Tillmans won the Arthur Ashe Courage Award at the ESPY Awards ceremony on espn, they made no public statement and sent their younger brother Richard to pick up the award.

Mark Brand, an assistant athletic director at ASU, says that when people asked Tillman why he was enlisting, he always had the same answer: he needed a new challenge. He got one at Fort Benning, Ga., where both Tillmans spent the second half of 2002 training to become Army Rangers, an elite outfit that only graduates about a third of those who start the course. They reached Iraq some time last year. In Baghdad Pat made frequent calls to Bauer. "He never talked about any of the combat part of it," says Bauer. "That just was Pat.*spaceHe never really got into anything that detailed." It was only last month that Tillman left for Afghanistan. You wonder what he would have made of last weekend's NFL draft, with the scramble for money and Eli Manning's pout over whether he might be forced to work in San Diego and not a thought about how a death on the battlefield had put it all into perspective. But Tillman just might have objected again that he was nothing special, that he had his share of ordinary career ambition too. In the locker room before the Rose Bowl in 1997, he asked one of his coaches, Lyle Setencich, what draft round he might expect to be chosen in the next year. "I told him to get a law degree, that he was going to be President," says Setencich. "He said, 'I want to play in the NFL.'"

"You're fortunate when you come across a Pat Tillman," says Setencich. "But there are many Pat Tillmans across the country. The spirit of Pat Tillman is the heart of this country." Tillman would not have wanted us talking about him this week, but if we were talking about him anyway, that's probably what he would have wanted us to say.

— Reported by Sean Gregory/Tempe, Nancy Harbert/Albuquerque, Laura A. Locke/San Jose, Tim McGirk/Islamabad, Alice Park/New York, Eli Sanders/Fort Lewis, Mark Thompson/Washington, Jill Underwood/Las Vegas and Michael Ware/Khost

From the May. 03, 2004 issue of TIME magazine

 


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Republican hardball
Robert Novak (back to web version) | email to a friendSend

April 24, 2004

 WASHINGTON -- Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist is being urged by colleagues to threaten to close down the Senate for the rest of the year unless Senate Democratic Leader Tom Daschle ends his disruptive tactics.

 In addition to menacing all judicial nominations, Daschle is now preventing legislation from being sent to Senate-House conferences to resolve differences in bills passed by both Houses unless the outcome is guaranteed.

 Sen. Jon Kyl of Arizona, chairman of the Senate Republican Policy Committee, and other conservatives want Frist to counter Daschle by bringing the business of the Senate to a halt. This would mean passing an omnibus appropriations bill and then awaiting the outcome of the elections. Democrats could not offer their pet amendments, but it also would prevent passage of a budget resolution and, therefore, kill any chance of making the Bush tax cuts permanent.

DELAY INDICTED?

 The word spread through Republican circles on Capitol Hill is that a runaway Democratic prosecutor in Texas may indict House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, creating upheaval in the GOP leadership.

 DeLay is a Republican hero for orchestrating the off-year congressional redistricting that promises to produce six additional House seats for his party. However, District Attorney Ronnie Earle in Austin may bring an indictment against DeLay for alleged illegal cash payments in connection with the redistricting fight. That would force DeLay to step aside as majority leader at least temporarily.

 DeLay predicts there will be no indictment, but concedes the old saw that a grand jury would indict a ham sandwich if the prosecutor so desires. Earle indicted Republican Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison in 1993 on trumped-up charges, but he dropped the case after the trial judge's ruling indicated that, in effect, there was no case.

"STAY IN PITTSBURGH"

 Teresa Heinz Kerry, Sen. John Kerry's vivacious wife, was a major asset on the campaign trail during the primary elections but has run into backstage criticism since then -- particularly in Philadelphia last week.

 Mrs. Kerry asked Rep. Bob Brady, master of ceremonies at the event, whether she could introduce Gov. Edward Rendell (who in turn would introduce the prospective Democratic presidential nominee). The candidate's wife then launched into a 10-minute speech about her early life in Mozambique and on the iniquities of George W. Bush, but forgot to introduce Rendell.

 After the event concluded, Brady told a Kerry aide: "Next time you come to Philadelphia, leave her in Pittsburgh (Mrs. Kerry's hometown when she was married to the late Republican Sen. John Heinz)."

FUNDING THE LEFT

 The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) and the U.S. Agency for International Development (AID) dropped sponsorship of a conference in Washington June 1-4, "Youth and Health: Generation on the Edge," that espouses left-wing causes after conservative Republican congressmen protested.

 The Bush-bashing MoveOn.org, funded by billionaire investor George Soros, is one of the conference's presenters. Also included are the International Planned Parenthood Federation (IPPF), which does not qualify for federal family planning grants because it advocates abortion, and the pro-abortion United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA).

 The House Republican Study Committee last Wednesday drafted a letter to HHS Secretary Tommy Thompson and AID administrator Andrew Natsios expressing "great concern and disappointment" over funding of the conference by their agencies.

LOUISIANA LOG JAM

 The sudden interest in a political comeback by Republican former Gov. Buddy Roemer is threatening to deflate high GOP hopes for winning a U.S. Senate seat from Louisiana for the first time since Reconstruction.

 Polls show Republican Rep. David Vitter leading Democratic Rep. Chris John, retiring Sen. John Breaux's handpicked successor, and Democratic State Treasurer John Kennedy. Roemer, an ex-Democrat who served a controversial hitch for governor (1988-1992), could change all that if he enters the race with better name identification than any other candidate.

 In Louisiana's non-party free-for-all election, Roemer and Vitter could divide up the Republican vote and lose to a Democrat. With Democrats strongly challenging Republican-held seats in Colorado, Oklahoma, Alaska and Illinois, Republicans may have to take Louisiana to keep control of the Senate.

 


Name:   F*ck islam!
Re:   http://www.newsherald.com/viewpoint/phillucas/040404.shtml
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Great article.


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Keep Abortions Legal!


Name:   Islam Sucks!
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Sunday, April 4, 2004

Up against fanaticism By Phil Lucas Executive Editor

AP Photo. If straight talk of savagery offends you, if you believe in ethnic and gender diversity but not diversity of thought or if you think there is an acceptable gray area between good and evil, then turn to the funny pages, and take the children, too.

This piece is not for you.

We published pictures Thursday of burnt American corpses hanging from an Iraqi bridge behind a mob of grinning Muslims.

Some readers didn’t like it.

Mothers said it frightened their children. A woman who works with Muslim physicians thought it might offend or endanger them.

Well, we sure don’t want to frighten, offend or endanger anybody, do we? That’s just too much diversity to handle. I mean, somebody might get hurt.

We could fill the newspaper every morning with mobs of fanatical Muslims. They can’t get along with their neighbors on much of the planet: France, Chechnya, Bosnia, Indonesia, Spain, Morocco, India, Tunisia, Somalia, etc. etc. etc. Can anybody name three ongoing world conflicts in which Muslims are not involved? Today, where there is war, there are fanatical Muslims. We might quibble about who started what conflicts, but look at the sheer number of them.

One thing is sure. Muslim killers started the one we are in now when they slaughtered more than 3,000 people, including fellow Muslims, in New York City.

Madeline Albright, the former secretary of state and feckless appeaser who helped get us into this mess, said last week Muslims still resented the Crusades. Well, Madame Albright, if Westerners were not such a forgiving people, we might resent them too.

Let’s recap the Crusades. Muslims invaded Europe and when they reached sufficient numbers they imposed their intolerant religion upon Westerners by force. Christian monarchs drove them back and took the battle to their homeland. The fight lasted a couple of centuries, and we bottled them up for 1,000 years.

Now, a millennium later, Muslims have expanded forth again. Ask France. Ask England. Ask Manhattan. Two-and-a-half years ago fanatical Muslims laid siege to us. We woke up to the obvious. Our president announced it would be a very long war, then took the battle to the Islamic homeland. Sound familiar?

Let’s consider the concept of a “long war.” Last time it was 200 years, give or take.

Anybody catch Lord of the Rings? You know, the good part, the part that wasn’t fiction, the part that drew us to the books and movies because it was the truest part: the titanic struggle between good and evil, between freedom and enslavement, between the individual and the state, between the celebration of life and the worshipping of death.

That’s the fight we are in, and it never ends. It just has peaks and valleys.

There may be a silent majority of peaceful Muslims – some live here – but that did not save 3,000 people in the World Trade Centers, the millions gassed and butchered in the Middle East, the tens of thousands slain in Eastern Europe and Asia, the hundreds blown to bits in the West Bank and Spain, or the four Americans shot, burned and hung like sausage over the Euphrates as a fanatical minority of Muslims did the joyful dance of death.

Maybe we are so tolerant, we are so bent on “diversity,” we are so nonjudgmental, we are so wrapped up in our six-packs and ballgames that our brains have drained to our bulbous behinds. Maybe we’re so addled on Ritalin we wouldn’t know which end of a gun to hold. Maybe we need a new drug advertised on TV every three minutes, one that would help us grow a backbone.

It doesn’t take a Darwin to figure out that in this world the smartest, the fastest, the strongest, and the most committed always win. No exceptions.

Look at your spouse and children. Look at yourself in the mirror. Then look at the pictures from the paper last Thursday. You better look at them. Those are the people out to kill you.

Who do you think will win? You? Or them? Think you can take your ball and go home and they will leave you alone? Read a little history. Start with last week, last month, last year, and every other year back for half a century. Then go back a thousand years. Nobody hides from this fight.

Like it or not, that’s the way it was and that’s the way it is.

But many Americans don’t get it.

That’s why we published those pictures.

If they jarred you off the sofa, if they offended you, if they scared your children and sent you into a rage at mass murderers or heartless editors, then I say, it’s a start.

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Name:   George MacKenzie III
To:   Islam Sucks

Re:   USE PARAGRAPHS YOU IDIOT!
Message:

Sunday, April 4, 2004

Up against fanaticism

By Phil Lucas
Executive Editor

AP Photo.
If straight talk of savagery offends you, if you believe in ethnic and gender diversity but not diversity of thought or if you think there is an acceptable gray area between good and evil, then turn to the funny pages, and take the children, too.

This piece is not for you.

We published pictures Thursday of burnt American corpses hanging from an Iraqi bridge behind a mob of grinning Muslims.

Some readers didn’t like it.

Mothers said it frightened their children. A woman who works with Muslim physicians thought it might offend or endanger them.

Well, we sure don’t want to frighten, offend or endanger anybody, do we? That’s just too much diversity to handle. I mean, somebody might get hurt.

We could fill the newspaper every morning with mobs of fanatical Muslims. They can’t get along with their neighbors on much of the planet: France, Chechnya, Bosnia, Indonesia, Spain, Morocco, India, Tunisia, Somalia, etc. etc. etc. Can anybody name three ongoing world conflicts in which Muslims are not involved? Today, where there is war, there are fanatical Muslims. We might quibble about who started what conflicts, but look at the sheer number of them.

One thing is sure. Muslim killers started the one we are in now when they slaughtered more than 3,000 people, including fellow Muslims, in New York City.

Madeline Albright, the former secretary of state and feckless appeaser who helped get us into this mess, said last week Muslims still resented the Crusades. Well, Madame Albright, if Westerners were not such a forgiving people, we might resent them too.

Let’s recap the Crusades. Muslims invaded Europe and when they reached sufficient numbers they imposed their intolerant religion upon Westerners by force. Christian monarchs drove them back and took the battle to their homeland. The fight lasted a couple of centuries, and we bottled them up for 1,000 years.

Now, a millennium later, Muslims have expanded forth again. Ask France. Ask England. Ask Manhattan. Two-and-a-half years ago fanatical Muslims laid siege to us. We woke up to the obvious. Our president announced it would be a very long war, then took the battle to the Islamic homeland. Sound familiar?

Let’s consider the concept of a “long war.” Last time it was 200 years, give or take.

Anybody catch Lord of the Rings? You know, the good part, the part that wasn’t fiction, the part that drew us to the books and movies because it was the truest part: the titanic struggle between good and evil, between freedom and enslavement, between the individual and the state, between the celebration of life and the worshipping of death.

That’s the fight we are in, and it never ends. It just has peaks and valleys.

There may be a silent majority of peaceful Muslims – some live here – but that did not save 3,000 people in the World Trade Centers, the millions gassed and butchered in the Middle East, the tens of thousands slain in Eastern Europe and Asia, the hundreds blown to bits in the West Bank and Spain, or the four Americans shot, burned and hung like sausage over the Euphrates as a fanatical minority of Muslims did the joyful dance of death.

Maybe we are so tolerant, we are so bent on “diversity,” we are so nonjudgmental, we are so wrapped up in our six-packs and ballgames that our brains have drained to our bulbous behinds. Maybe we’re so addled on Ritalin we wouldn’t know which end of a gun to hold. Maybe we need a new drug advertised on TV every three minutes, one that would help us grow a backbone.

It doesn’t take a Darwin to figure out that in this world the smartest, the fastest, the strongest, and the most committed always win. No exceptions.

Look at your spouse and children. Look at yourself in the mirror. Then look at the pictures from the paper last Thursday. You better look at them. Those are the people out to kill you.

Who do you think will win? You? Or them? Think you can take your ball and go home and they will leave you alone? Read a little history. Start with last week, last month, last year, and every other year back for half a century. Then go back a thousand years. Nobody hides from this fight.

Like it or not, that’s the way it was and that’s the way it is.

But many Americans don’t get it.

That’s why we published those pictures.

If they jarred you off the sofa, if they offended you, if they scared your children and sent you into a rage at mass murderers or heartless editors, then I say, it’s a start.


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Former U.N. weapons inspector Blix compares WMD search to witch-hunts

By Concerned Individual 


Eagle photo/Butch Ireland

Former United Nations weapons inspector Hans Blix talks about the balance sheet of positive and negatives from the Iraq war.

In some ways, the events leading up to the invasion of Iraq were similar to “the witch-hunts of past centuries,” former United Nations chief weapons inspector Hans Blix told a crowd at Texas A&M University on Friday night.

For those who believe in witches or weapons of mass destruction, he said, “the evidence does not have to be all that strong. You will take it.”

“ It seems to me that the U.S. and U.K. leadership were so convinced that there were weapons of mass destruction [in Iraq] that they couldn’t imagine they weren’t there,” Blix surmised.

But of course, he added, the world now knows they were wrong.

The hour-long speech, which was part of the university’s Wiley Lecture Series, came less than a month after the Swedish diplomat’s book “Disarming Iraq” was released.

In addition to his own book, Blix repeatedly referred Friday to passages from Bob Woodward’s new book, which he described as “probably selling better than I do.” That book, “Plan of Attack,” states that the Bush administration decided to go to war long before the inspections were concluded.

Bush insisted that Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein harbored WMDs and should be removed as part of the broader war on terror. But since last year’s invasion, no such stockpiles have been found.

Blix was dispatched to Iraq with inspection teams in November 2002, after the U.S. began applying military pressure. The last time U.N. inspectors had been in the country was 1998 when they were kicked out by Saddam.

In the autumn of 2002, Blix said Friday, he still had a “gut feeling” that Saddam was hiding WMDs. But, he added, it wasn’t his job to operate on gut feelings.

Then his team began inspecting numerous Iraqi sites based on U.S. intelligence reports and found nothing.

“ To me, this raised great doubts about the quality of intelligence that we found,” he said. “If this is the best, what is the rest?”

While Iraq’s past treatment of weapons inspectors did raise suspicions, he said, there were plenty of reasons other than possession of WMDs that could have accounted for that.

Saddam probably didn’t have much inclination to cooperate, he said, since the dictator often was told that sanctions would be lifted only if he disappeared. Or the inspectors could have been kicked out by Saddam as a way to increase his status in the Arab world by standing up to the United States.

And the Iraqis were right in suspecting that inspectors were working for U.S. and British intelligence — effectively plotting out sites for potential future bombings, he said.

“ Maybe President Gates will be able to tell us more about that,” he joked to the crowded auditorium, referring to the former CIA director who now heads A&M.

At any rate, Saddam did agree to allow inspectors in again but that option wasn’t fully pursued, he said. In December of that year, the United States asked the U.N. Security Council to rev up the inspection process and add more inspectors.

“ We resisted that because we said we have to learn to walk before we can run,” he said, explaining that the inspection process stretched over eight years the first time around. “There was a great deal of patience at that time and now we were judged after six weeks.”

If the U.S. and British leaders would have been more patient, he said, the intelligence information likely would have been proved faulty and the events in Iraq might have played out differently.

Blix recalled discussing such possibilities with U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan prior to the invasion.

At the time, sustained inspections were estimated to cost about $80 million for a year, with about 200 inspectors needed. A military invasion, on the other hand, was estimated at costing $80 billion and requiring 200,000 soldiers.

“ There’s pretty sharp differences between the two options,” he said. “I never gave up hope that something would lead to a slowing down.”

It’s important, Blix said Friday, that the world now learn from the Iraq experience.

Since the military action, terrorism hasn’t been stamped out and the U.N.’s authority has been weakened, he said. In addition, he said, a precedence has now been set for volatile pre-emptive strikes between countries like India and Pakistan.

The world also has learned that containment — the “policy of patience” that worked for decades during the Cold War — also ended up working with the usage of weapons inspectors after the first Gulf War, he said.

As the world now knows from the absence of WMDs, he said, Saddam was effectively “defanged” with the help of the U.N. teams.

But that technique was abandoned in March 2003 when the invasion of Iraq was coordinated without U.N. Security Council approval, he said.

“ We want our governments to keep some distance from the ways of the advertising world,” he concluded, adding that people wish to be shown “reality rather than virtual reality.”

“Is the world better off without Saddam? Yes, of course, but that’s only part of the story.”

 


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Clinton's a hit at NAACP dinner Mon Apr 26, 3:52 AM ET

BY AMBER HUNT MARTIN, FREE PRESS STAFF WRITER

She came to answer a single question: 50 years after Brown v. Board of Education, how far have we come?

Her answer: Not far enough.

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (news - web sites), D-N.Y., drew standing ovations from about 10,000 people at Cobo Center on Sunday night while wrapping up the NAACP Freedom Institute's third annual Freedom Weekend -- and the 49th annual Fight for Freedom Dinner.

The event, dubbed by organizers as the largest sit-down dinner in the world, drew Detroit Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick, Gov. Jennifer Granholm and Michigan Democratic Sens. Debbie Stabenow and Carl Levin.

The Queen of Soul, Aretha Franklin, and Omarosa Manigault-Stallworth, from the reality TV show "The Apprentice," also attended the $150-a-plate dinner.


Name:   Aegis
To:   Monicker Thief

Re:   Sh!tting in your own nest
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Moniker Theft

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Moniker theft is never appropriate. It is a very chickensh!t tactic that diminishes your message and brands you as a liar. If you have something to say, please select a unique moniker, or a thousand of them, for that matter, and SAY IT!


Name:   Communist Dreamweaver
To:   RIGHTious Ralph

Re:   We know about you and yours
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We hear that Third World peoples are culturally retarded in their attitudes, customs, and technical abilities. It is a convenient notion embraced by those who want to depict Western investments as a rescue operation designed to help backward peoples help themselves. This myth of "cultural backwardness" goes back to ancient times, when conquerors used it to justify enslaving indigenous peoples. It was used by European colonizers over the last five centuries for the same purpose.

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You come in here with your medicines and vaccines and you play G_d with our population cycle. Our massive birth rate is tied to our frequent death rate. When you play G_d with who dies, we become over populated and are supposed to have droughts and die off like the animals we eat to survive. But you bring in your powdered milk from Nestle and offend Mother Jones thinkers, people who are supposed to die off in the cycle have more children and the suffering is exascerbated. Stop helping us! Wars also help us keep our populations down. We need people like Edie Amin to keep the population from getting out of hand. I'm glad he escaped with all that money to France.



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There are enough problems attendant on the birth of democracy in Iraq without burdening the country with an organisation that proved so inadequate in confronting the previous dictatorship, whether over oil for food or defiance of Security Council resolutions. George W Bush and Tony Blair may welcome shedding the odious status of occupiers. But they should be under no illusions that the UN will prove an adequate substitute. Given its record in the Balkans and the Middle East, their continuing faith in that body as providing a unique cloak of legitimacy is astonishing

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AMEN!


Name:   John Kerry
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I actually did not throw my medals over the fence before I did throw my medals over the fence.

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How many Purple Heart medals did Bush get?

How many Bronze Star medals did Bush get?

How many Silver Star medals did Bush get?

Hmmmm... Didn't have any to throw over anybody's fence did he?

Hahahahahah ha ha hahaha ha ha lol lol lol


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How many war wounds did Bush get?

Hmmmm... Didn't have any war wounds for us to demean did he?

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Name:   Lord of Flies
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It seems that the Liberals and democRATs have already made all of the possible conspiracy theories regardless of what actually happens.

Let's see what has happened, then.

Bandar promised to lower gas prices in a payment in kind to the Bush campaign and lo, he reiterated that promise in public, deleting only his offer to the Bush campaign.

Bush told America he was attacking Iraq because of WMD, despite the contrary and problematic evidence from the CIA.

This has proved to be a lie that has cost 705 American lives, and thousands of innocent Iraqis.

Bush-Cheney just invented a new 'privilege' called 'zone of autonomy' to cover up their coverup of the energy task force, despite the binding ruling against secrecy in public advisories handed down in the "hillarycare" vast rightwing conspiracy.

Bush v. Gore remains corrupt acording to the vast majority of law professors who have posted a public position on the subject.

Kathrine Harris.

Looks like Liberals have been 100% right so far.


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Shut the up you pansie Freedom lover. Democracy is dead! Hail Bush!

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Oh, my goodness.Such vile big talk from a person with such a small brain.Get a job like the rest of us and quit playing with your guns before we take them from you.


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"Am I a loser because I support Kerry? What does american politics have to do with hair care?" That's fine, but calling someone a loser because they support Kerry."I don't really care where a person stands politically if they're my Hair Consultant, but I've got to wonder. Sick silly Rightwingers.


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Answer to all above questions - numerous

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Typical right wing extremist. No questions of substance. No questions about policies, etc. Typical right wing extremist.


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Name:   Editor
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As you know I supported Bush in the Iraq war, and I still do, even though I believe whoever failed to make an exit plan that takes into consideration the uprisings we have now is a fool. But that does not mean I see Kerry as an alternative. I do not.

At the same time I cannot allow the awful abuse and overloading of articles, images and trash against Kerry that has been downloaded on this forum. Please find another place to do this. I have provided you a special trash forum for this purpose, but I recommend the Free Republic Forum if you do not want to use the special forum I have provided.

Do you think you are going to get anyone to vote for Bush because Kerry threw his medals over the fence? No, you are not. You are only reminding people that Bush is not a decorated veteran and has no purple hearts to throw anywhere. It is disgraceful and unpatriotic to impugn the medals that Kerry earned. Who do you think you are helping? Are you helping our brave soldiers in Iraq who are risking their lives for us? If you think you are helping them please let me know how.

It is disgraceful and unpatriotic to attempt to minimize the war wounds of our brave soldiers who risk their lives for us. Our guys in Iraq are getting horrible wounds ever day, some of which they may never recover. How dare you try to minimize this?

How do you think they feel that if they ever try to run for political office you will examine their wounds and try to minimize them? People who try to minimize the war wounds of our soldiers should be brought to justice for treason. If you can't honor the wounds our troops receive go back to the Free Republic Forum where they will say or do anything to win this election. They have no shame. They don't care about our troops's wounds. They just care about trashing Democrats by any means.

My son-in-law is a pilot flying a plane to Baghdad almost every day. Once having landed in Baghdad he gets into a helicopter and delivers something somewhere, while being shot at all the way. He is the father of my three wonderful grandsons, and the beloved husband of my sweet daughter. I love my son-in-law who is one of the best and the brightest. I hate to think that the garbage that come on to this forum would attempt to demean his sacrifice in any way.

So do not even think of demeaning the war wounds or the medals our brave soldiers get for risking their lives to protect us. DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!!!!


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Bush is a phony conservative. Him and the other Republicans talk it up real big but sit and do nuthing while hords of arabs and mexicans flood into the U.S. America is being turned into a 3rd world country. Bush's big worry is about gay people getting married. WHO CARES IF THAY WANT TO GET MARRIED? These people comming in have no concept of what freedom is so thay vote for the socialists like Kerry and the Clinton's. The people running the country today (both partys) are dirty traiters.


Name:   Fed Up
Re:   Kerry
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It is disgraceful and unpatriotic to impugn the medals that Kerry earned.

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I agree but Kerry's war record does not give him a right to commit treason against the United States by turing America into a socialist county. What I really like about Bush being such a moron is that I won't fell as bad if Kerry wins.


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