OP-ED COLUMNIST

Fly the Partisan Skies
None of us should be forced to fly with the lying, cheating,
vicious dirtballs who make up the other side.

By DAVID BROOKS

he political divisions in this country being what they are, it's not enough that liberals and conservatives have different radio networks, different Web sites and different networks of friends. In order to eliminate all possibility of trans-partisan conversation, I really think it's time we stopped flying together. It's time to set up two different airlines: Liberal Air, with direct flights between Madison, Berkeley, Ann Arbor and the New School for Social Research; and Right Wing Express, which will have planes with no oxygen masks in case of emergencies because anybody who can't handle a little asphyxiation doesn't deserve to live.

The way I see it, every flight on Liberal Air (motto: Your Grievances Are Our Grievances) will take off 45 minutes late, or whenever people feel like leaving, with the ensuing late arrivals blamed on Karl Rove.

The planes themselves will be designed by a really interesting fuselage cooperative in Oregon. Seating will be divided between coach class, working class (mostly screenwriters in flannel shirts) and faculty.

The experience of flying on Liberal Air will be different than flying on normal airlines, and the company will be structured in different ways. For example, the frequent flier program will reward customers the less they fly, just to make things even. Airfares will be symbolic, since everything is paid for by George Soros. Pilots, who look disturbingly like Arlo Guthrie, will greet passengers at the door of the plane to apologize for the oil they are about to consume.

After the safety teach-in, mandated by the F.A.A. ("All bike messenger bags must fit in the overhead rack . . . in case of a water landing, your moral vanity may be used as a personal flotation device . . ."), there will be an inflight entertainment program, eliciting the complete range of highly attractive liberal emotions: rage, anger, disgust, contempt, pessimism, gloom and despair. For a full hour, passengers will watch Michael Moore movies; then for the next hour they will congratulate themselves for having a nuanced view of reality.

In addition, pilots will provide a running travel commentary over the P.A. system ("Ladies and gentlemen, if you glance out of the left side of the aircraft, you'll be able to look down on the people of Kansas"), and there will be encounter sessions for Democrats who know in their heads they had to go with Kerry but who now miss the excitement of Dean.

Right Wing Express will have a different corporate culture. From the moment you walk into the airport ("Air traffic controllers? We don't need no stinkin' air traffic controllers!") you will know you are in for a different experience. The special George Bush magnetometers will check for firearms, just in case someone isn't packing, and will also peer into the soul of each passenger (Good Heart . . . Evildoer . . . Good Heart . . . Evildoer).

All passengers who pass through the membership committee will be awarded their own "Mission Accomplished!" flight suit. They will find the fares surprisingly affordable, especially if they fly up front, because first-class fares will have been drastically reduced in order to stimulate economic growth and the first-class meals will be especially lavish to give the hungry folks in coach an extra incentive to work hard and reform their lives.

All Right Wing Express flights will leave exactly on time, though for national security reasons the pilots will not reveal the identity of the destination cities. The Hummer-brand planes will have ample headroom for big-hair ladies, dozens of pews with easy access to the putting greens, and drop-down TV monitors, which will show libido-crushing abstinence education videos. There will also be ample bathroom facilities for heterosexuals of both genders.

Right Wing Express flights will not only land at airports, they will occupy airports. Passengers might sometimes find the flight attendants a tad abrasive ("You want me on that wall. You need me on that wall . . ."), but the cigarettes will be free and plentiful, and each passenger will be greeted with an appropriately conservative mantra, "Welcome to Right Wing Express, how can I help you help yourself?"

The purpose of having ideologically segregated airlines is obvious. For the past few years we have been happily hiving ourselves off into self-congratulatory reinforcement groups. None of us should be forced to fly with the lying, cheating, vicious dirtballs who make up the other side. source...

The Bush jobs chasm All the March payroll numbers tell us is that the White House knows the date of the election.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- April 6, 2004 | The fit of ejaculatio praecox to which the commentariat abandoned itself when payroll job growth hit 308,000 last week was perhaps understandable, in view of the terrible frustrations it had suffered for so many, many months before. So many bright hopes and expectations. So many disappointments.

But what of the future? Do we now accept the conclusion, to which our national teenager President Bush immediately jumped, that "the economy is strong and getting stronger"?

The fact is, March 2004 was only one good month. How many more would we need just like it to get back to where we were four years ago?

Assume population growth at its average rate since 1976. Set a target baseline payroll -- an employment-to-population ratio of 62 percent, the prosperous level that was exceeded almost continuously from June 1999 to August 2000. If we average 308,000 new payroll jobs every month from now on, how long will it take to break that June 1999 threshold once again?

And the first time payroll growth falls below 308,000 per month, then either some other month will have to make up the shortfall, or else the date will slip.

Not that 308,000 is such a large number. Want to know how many times monthly payroll employment gains hit the 300,000 mark under Clinton and Gore? Twenty-four. That's one month in every four. Numbers like that didn't make the front pages under Clinton.

But this is the first time it's happened under Bush. In fact, it's the first time payroll gains under Bush passed the 200,000 mark. The previous high under Bush? 159,000. So 308,000 is almost twice his personal best.

If you think this expansion is going to continue at this pace for four more years, in the face of what will soon enough be rising interest rates, huge deficits and the pressure to cut them, a deflating housing bubble and, most of all, the proven indifference of Team Bush to jobs policy, then frankly you haven't been paying attention. Four more months -- that I'd believe. But they haven't got a clue what to do after that.

All the March payroll numbers tell us, in a nutshell, is that the White House knows the date of the election.

The Tulsa Prophecy Conference begins each session with the blowing of the shofar. This is a ram's horn prepared so that it resonates with a distinctive horn sound -in this untrained ear-- somewhere between the tone of a trumpet and a French horn. All people who belong to the conference know when they hear the shofar blast that it is time to assemble so the particular session can begin.

The shofar, of course, was used by the leaders of Israel to call the Israelites to one assembly or the other, for purposes of gathering, or for worship, organizing to move out to another location, or whatever. We who are Christians will one day hear Christ's voice, and the Bible says it will be "as it were a trumpet." This could refer to a shofar-like sound. The gathering in the clouds will then take place, where we will be with our Lord, the Bridegroom, Jesus Christ, forever.

The call that will initiate the Rapture of the Church will indeed be important. But that isn't the most important call, or sound, we will ever hear from the very Mind of God.

Before we can hear that call, we must first hear the call He issues when the Holy Spirit speaks to each person who is lost in sin. No one can come to God in salvation unless he or she first hears, then answers that call with an affirmative "Yes."

Jesus gave a very clear truth about this call in the salvation process: "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day" (John 6:44).

The wonderful thing when considering the unfathomable Grace our God offers, is that He includes everyone in this call from His Spirit to ours. Each and every person will, at a time of God's choosing, receive a call, or a drawing, from God, pleading with him or her to be saved from soul-destroying sin.

This, I believe, was confirmed in my own spirit during a question and answer session in which I participated while at the Tulsa Prophecy Conference.

An incident involving two young men from the United Kingdom, reporters working on a film project that will include a presentation called "Christianity in America," brought the point of the Holy Spirit's call home to me.

During the course of my getting to know this pair of journalists over the past couple of months, we became, I believe, great friends. Being of an age that I could be their father, I more or less see them in the same way I see my own sons, both of whom I had the privilege of leading to Christ at ages when they were quite young. These British young men are now in their 30s. They are open-minded enough to listen politely while I and others in the Q and A room witnessed to them.

On top of everything, the two men are Jews. It is astonishing to me at how the Lord put them in the middle of believers who love the Jewish people as perhaps no other people on earth love them. I believe they felt that love.

The witness of all those around the two men were zealous, but tempered with common sense and with Christian class, as I like to call it. I wish I could report here a great conversion story regarding these two young fellows, who my wife, Margaret, and I truly came to consider almost members of our own family during their visit. Alas, I can't report such a conversion -not yet. But, I know that the witness of those at the conference will not be in vain. Our Heavenly Father will send that promised call to both of these young men. I know this, because Jesus said: "For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved (John 3:17).

God promises through the writing of the Apostle Peter: "The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance" (2 Pet. 3:9).

Although one of the journalists asked us to pray for him, and for his mother, I sensed it was more a gesture of courtesy, and also was something of interest he could use in the putting together of their documentary about Christianity in America. Believe me, there was much prayer in that room, and witness of Jesus by the conference speakers, that evening for my two friends. I ask that you who read this column join your prayers with ours in asking the Lord to send them powerful conviction that Jesus is the One who brings the peace that all who are lost seek. Ask that God blows the shofar of the Spirit's call loudly into the ears of their souls. I don't think they would object to my mentioning their names, Elliott and Andy.

Preparation for Antichrist's beastly rule continues at a rapid clip. The following excerpt from a recent report indicates, I think, where we find ourselves today on God's prophetic timeline.

"Reaching back to revive an idea promoted by the man he beat for the White House, President Bush urged Friday that affordable high-speed Internet access be available to all Americans by 2007, saying it was essential to the nation's economic growth.

Bush traveled to the Southwest largely to promote home ownership but spoke briefly about Internet access in remarks reminiscent of 2000 Democratic presidential nominee Al Gore's call for an "information superhighway" available to all Americans.

He did not say how high-speed access could be extended to all the nation's homes and businesses, but in an address to Hispanic lawmakers in New Mexico, a state he lost to Gore by just 366 votes four years ago, Bush said a key would be to 'make sure that as soon as possible thereafter [that] consumers have plenty of choices.'

There is already a fund that subsidizes telephone service in rural areas and for those who cannot afford it. Policymakers have debated whether the Universal Service Fund should also subsidize Internet access to U.S. homes.

Democrats, including Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, Bush's presumed Democratic opponent in November, accused Bush in a letter last month of failing to implement a 'national broadband policy.' About 20.6 million homes and small businesses subscribed to high-speed Internet service as of last June, the latest data available from the Federal Communications Commission.

Telephone companies that dominate a market have to share their networks with rivals for telephone service, and there have been extensive debates about whether those rules should apply to broadband" (MSNBC, President Bush speaks to Hispanic lawmakers Friday in Albuquerque, Gerald Herbert / AP, Friday March 26, 2004, Crawford, TX).

No matter who wins the American presidency, or who governs/rules in other seats of power, the world will, apparently, be wired for Revelation, chapter 13: "And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name." (Revelation 13: 16-17)

Computers, numbers, marks -these seem to indicate electronic funds transfer, satellite hook-ups between continents, and all the rest that will link the world together in one great chain of bondage during the coming Tribulation era ruled by Antichrist and his regime. Certainly, it will be economy that binds commercial -and religious Babylon together in an inescapable earth-prison. (Read about religious and economic Babylon and their destruction in Revelation, chapters 17 and 18.)

The most fascinating element of the computer scenario for the era ruled by the beast is that it will likely be guised as a democracy. Probably, each citizen of the great world society will be promised a vote through his computer linkage to computer central. But, of course, just like in the politics of our time, the politicians will manipulate the result of the vote any way they see fit. And, they will see fit to give all power and authority to Satan's man, Antichrist!

Watch for the continuing development of this electronic chain that will ultimately paralyze the world in Luciferian bondage. But, more than that, keep looking and listening for the call from on high - "Come up here!"
--Terry

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HILLARY SUPPORTER

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Clinton, Boehlert Announce $500,000 for Griffiss Hanger

Washington, DC- Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (NY) and U.S. Rep. Sherwood Boehlert (New Hartford) together announced they have secured $500,000 in Economic Development Administration funds through the U. S. Department of Commerce. This funding will be used to renovate the Griffiss Hangar at the former Griffiss Air Force Base, which will allow Empire Aero Center to expand their operations.

"I am so pleased that the $500,000 I secured for the renovation of the Hangar at the former Griffiss Air Force Base is now on its way. And I look forward to seeing the hangar in use on Monday," Senator Clinton said. "I was pleased to secure this funding in the FY 2004 Appropriations process because I believe it not only represents the potential for new jobs for the region but it is a testament to the power of perseverance, planning, and public-private sector partnerships," Senator Clinton said.

"This is exciting news for Griffiss and Rome," Rep. Boehlert said. "Empire Aero's decision to locate at Griffiss is a great step toward improved economic opportunities for this area. I was pleased to work with Senator Clinton to help make this a reality. This is the beginning of many opportunities for Rome and Oneida County."

Senator Clinton and Rep. Boehlert worked with company officials at Empire Aero Center (formerly known as Commodore Aviation, Inc.) to encourage the company to locate to the Griffiss Business and Technology Park. This development is expected to provide numerous jobs to the region in the coming years.

The renovated hangar will help attract further private investment as well as enable the Air Force Research Laboratory to continue its mission.

Name:	HILLARY SUPPORTER
Re:	Just a few postings on what the Senator has been doing for New York....

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Senator Clinton Joins 44 Colleagues In Demanding Real Mercury Pollution Reductions

Bi-Partisan Plea for Serious Action on Mercury Sent to EPA Washington, DC � Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (NY) joined 44 of her colleagues from across the political spectrum in urging Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Michael O. Leavitt to withdraw the EPA's proposed mercury rule package and come back with new rules that will provide real protection to the public and the environment.

In a letter sent today, the 45 Senators criticize the EPA's proposed rule for failing to comply with the Clean Air Act. The proposed rule, the Senators said, does not adequately reduce industrial plant emissions or effectively address the scientific evidence. Much of this evidence identifying mercury as one of the most serious hazardous emissions was developed by the EPA.

As evidence of the serious health threat that mercury-laced emissions pose, the Senators cite an EPA report that concluded that the number of infants with unsafe levels of mercury in their blood had doubled from EPA's original estimates. During a 12-month study between 1999 and 2000, the EPA found that an estimated 630,000 infants had unsafe levels of mercury in their bloodstreams. The Senators' letter also makes clear that lakes, rivers, streams and the wildlife that inhabit them will continue to be damaged until a stronger mercury rule is proposed and implemented.

"I appreciate Administrator Leavitt's attention to this issue, but I don't believe his agency is moving quickly enough and I am concerned that the Bush Administration, overall, does not take the threat of mercury contamination seriously enough. EPA's proposed mercury rule will not do nearly enough to protect us from this threat," said Senator Clinton.

She added, "I am deeply concerned about the Administration's current practice of putting the financial interests of its political supporters above the health interests of our nation and I hope that we will soon see a change of heart."

The letter asks the EPA to fully analyze the range of available and affordable mercury control technologies recommended by states, utilities, and environmental and public health specialists in re-evaluating the rule. Leahy said that by not following the letter and the spirit of the Clean Air Act, the Administration plan ignores available technologies that can reduce mercury by up to 90 percent. The Administration's current proposal would only reduce mercury emissions by 70 percent and would not start until 2018. At a Senate Environment and Public Works Committee today, Senator Clinton pressed Governor Leavitt to consider a March 24, 2004 report by EPA's own Office of Research and Development. The report indicates that existing, widely used technology can achieve mercury reductions of 72%-90% at coal-fired power plants.

In addition to Senator Clinton, the other Senators urging Administrator Leavitt to withdraw the rule are: Leahy, Snowe, Jeffords, Dayton, Lieberman, Gregg, Cantwell, Reed, Feingold, McCain, Lautenberg, Kohl, Schumer, Sarbanes, Akaka, Durbin, Boxer, Carper, Daschle, Mikulski, Harkin, Wyden, Feinstein, Edwards, Dodd, Collins, Murray, Chafee, Biden, Kerry, Hollings, Kennedy, Pryor, Rockefeller, Nelson (Fla.), Reid, Corzine, Sununu, Inouye, Graham (Fla.), Stabenow, Levin, Bingaman and Alexander.

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The Cold Hard Facts

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The Bush jobs chasm All the March payroll numbers tell us is that the White House knows the date of the election.

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You read the left wing extremist spin from nearly defunct Salon, now for

Name:	Polly Pork
To:	Hillary Supporter

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Washington, DC- Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (NY) and U.S. Rep. Sherwood Boehlert (New Hartford) together announced they have secured $500,000 in Economic Development Administration funds through the U. S. Department of Commerce. This funding will be used to renovate the Griffiss Hangar at the former Griffiss Air Force Base, which will allow Empire Aero Center to expand their operations.

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Wow! Someone managed to finagle a half million bucks of taxpayer money for corporate welfare.

Name:	real voter
To:	forum
Re:	georgia gay marriage ban

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I wasn't going to vote this fall until the state legislature passed a resolution allowing us (all georgia citizens) to vote on a gay marriage ban. Now I have a reason. I'm voting for the ban, as are most of my neighbors. We are sick of homos who want to force their perversions on our kids. Let them eat each other somewhere else. How comw you're not supposed to talk openly about what these creeps do for recreation? You can't take the kids to Disney any more out of fear that your trip will be in the middle of "HomoWeek" or something. WE ARE NOT HOMOPHOBIC, WE JUST DON'T LIKE QUEERS! Get it, dumbass?

Name:	Drinking Water
To:	Hillary Supporter

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Bi-Partisan Plea for Serious Action on Mercury Sent to EPA Washington, DC � Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton (NY) joined 44 of her colleagues from across the political spectrum in urging Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Michael O. Leavitt to withdraw the EPA's proposed mercury rule package and come back with new rules that will provide real protection to the public and the environment.

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Are you trying to tell me that the same water we were drinking throughout the Clinton administration wasn't good enough for us?

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Forum Fan

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If we average 308,000 new payroll jobs every month from now on, how long will it take to break that June 1999 threshold once again?

Remember the Clinton Years was the period of the Worst Economic Insanity since The Great Depression.

The Clinton-Era False Prosperity cost this country dearly. The �jobs� were paid for by �eating our seed corn�. When it was over, the Clinton-Era False Prosperity brought this country to its knees. Thankfully President Bush has got us back on our feet and we are seeing record economic growth. This time the economy is sustainable.

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Job Seeker

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All the March payroll numbers tell us, in a nutshell, is that the White House knows the date of the election.

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I was at the unemployment office this morning and I was shocked to see the George Bush was not there to help me find a job. How heartless and insensitive of him. I think the president should have been there for me. He obviously doesn't care about the average America.

Name:	Kelly Green Smoking Jacket
To:	The Beguiled and the Fleeced, From Sausalito to Way Down East
Re:	KLINTON KORPORATE WELFARE!!!!

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Thieving BASTARDS!!!!!! WHEN WILL THIS SHAMELESS PORK-BARRELLING BE STOPPED??

Name:	Hasta la vista, Mustafa!
To:	Dems in Freefall
Re:	Democrats Cheer Falluja Outrage

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These filthy c*cksuckers need to have the sh!t beat out of them.

Name:	Yam & Honey Pie In Graham Crust
To:	Polly Porque
Re:	Loot & Pillage

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Wow! Someone managed to finagle a half million bucks of taxpayer money for corporate welfare.

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It's OK, dude. ET doesn't mind being forced to subsidize this Empire Aero bunch with her personal income and that of her business as long as it greases Senator Clinton's wheels.

Name:	Bicycle Chain...
To:	WBush must soon die

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Tight Around Your Neck.

Name:	Patriot
To:	ET

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March 2004 Dear Fellow Supporter: It has been just over one week now. After filing with the Federal Election Commission and getting the word out we already have over 12,000 volunteers and supporters signed up. Hillary Rodham Clinton is supporting Presidential Candidate Sen. John Kerry. Senator Clinton endorsed Kerry on Super Tuesday. George W. Bush plans to raise $200 million from special interests for a primary in which he is running unopposed. Would you donate to throw George W. Bush and his special interests out of Washington? If Kerry-Hillary supporters donate to our Draft Ca ...

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So what;s the deal ET, Hillary snaps her fingers and you just jump right in line? She says she supports Kerry and all of a sudden it becomes forget the war on terror and the jihadis and all that stuff. Instead vote for kerry and withdraw from Iraq? Let the UN worry about our security?

Name:	Hillary? Wrong century, wrong ideology
To:	The Inexplicabley Beguiled
Re:	Old Radiclibs

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Hillary Rodham Clinton is supporting Presidential Candidate Sen. John Kerry. Senator Clinton endorsed Kerry on Super Tuesday.

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Obviously, Ms. Clinton is blowing poo when she professes to support the war on terror. Why do you feel compelled to support these miserable Leftist appeasenik "Democrats" who have spent decades tirelessly working against your interests and who continue to do so today and who promise more of the same tomorrow?

Name:	horndog
To:	hillary

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i want to pack your tuna taco with my sour cream...

Name:	Siite Onastique
To:	Wally Wahhabi
Re:	Sunni dubplicity

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Let's pray for cover under another trivial issue

First you praise the re-instatement of a Muslim instructor in Switzerland who openly supports the stoning of adulterers.

No wonder you refused to respond to the conservatives who objected to your characterization of Ken Star!!!

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Factory Owner

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The proposed rule, the Senators said, does not adequately reduce industrial plant emissions or effectively address the scientific evidence.

Name:	The Village
To:	Littleman

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WE ARE NOT HOMOPHOBIC, WE JUST DON'T LIKE QUEERS! Get it, dumbass

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We are the government and we will tell you who to like and who not to like.

Name:	Wally Wahhabi
To:	Shiit Onna Stick
Re:	You can continue to beat yourself, or join us

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HYPOCRITE! yadda yadda yadda

Do you really think that the idea of 70 virgins in paradise were invented by a prude?

When we cheat, we only do it in style. Stand by me, and you might get first dibbs (the least I can promise you are sloppy seconds).

American conservatives are often our worst enemies. God forbid they learn from their mistakes...

That couldn't have been me at the 7-11. As I said before, we only cheat in style: They don't have Gualtney ("That's what I like about the South!".)

Name:	Masses
To:	Crudflinger
Re:	Poor old Donkey, ate up with pissants

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George W. Bush plans to raise $200 million from special interests for a primary in which he is running unopposed. Would you donate to throw George W. Bush and his special interests out of Washington? If Kerry-Hillary supporters donate to our Draft Ca ...

Name:	Gypsy Train
To:	Promise them anything, but take their paychecks.
Re:	Keep the littleman's nose to the grindstone

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Do you really think that the idea of 70 virgins in paradise were invented by a prude

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Yep. Pie in the sky. You must never let the mule taste the carrot. You don't give a damn if the mule ever gets a carrot. Better he doesn't, as far as you're concerned. You don't much like mules, anyway.

All you intend is that the mule pull your wagon. That is his proper place; yours is to ride.

Taxing the prole's wages has a similar function. The harder he works, the more you take. You get rich, but he never does.

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Were the unemployment rates for Bush and Clinton going irregulary higher or lower in the first term? Who was the first president in over 30 years to preside over any unemployment rate which averaged in the 4% range for 4 years in a row?

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Individual

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No wonder you refused to respond to the conservatives who objected to your characterization of Ken Star!!!

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Ken Starr was a political hack of the worst kind because he was parading as a jurist. Ken Starr was the only federal (and maybe state also) prosecutor in history to use a grand jury to investigate deposition testimony for obstruction of justice and perjury charges in relation to consensual sex.

Name:	Morris
Re:	Bush Victory Margin Could Surprise

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The presidential race may look close now, but key trends suggest that President Bush may win the election by a surprising margin.

That's the word from one-time White House strategist Morris, who notes in his New York Post column today that Bush has moved up in the latest Rasmussen poll despite a two week media blitzkrieg echoing charges by terrorism czar Richard Clarke that he was asleep at the wheel on al Qaeda.

Morris credits the Bush campaign's decision to unleash a torrent of negative ads, and notes that Karl Rove has plenty of material to work with from here on out.

� Gas Prices: Morris says Kerry is on the spot because he backs a higher gas tax. "Voters know that the president can't control oil prices, but they sure know he can raise or lower taxes. "

� The Economy: The recent economic-growth and job-creation data is pulling the rug out from under Kerry inch by inch, says Morris. "A few more months like March, and his entire campaign theme will be made moot."

� Tax Increases: The notion that Kerry is a tax and spend liberal is beginning to take hold. Says Morris, "His promises to confine tax hikes to the rich are about as credible as an alcoholic's pledge only to drink at night."

� National Security: Kerry's attempt to invoke Vietnam to paper over his horrendous national security record has fallen flat. "It is evident that Kerry has no effective answer for Bush's charge that he would undermine homeland security," says Morris. "With the national focus shifting more and more to terrorism and away from the fading recession, Bush's lead becomes ever more daunting."

� Kerry's Light Work Habits: The one-time Clinton strategist says that because Kerry followed his two week skiing vacation with shoulder surgery, he sidelined himself when he most needed to defend against Bush's attacks.

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Lord of Flies

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The Economy: The recent economic-growth and job-creation data is pulling the rug out from under Kerry inch by inch, says Morris. "A few more months like March, and his entire campaign theme will be made moot." � Tax Increases: The notion that Kerry is a tax and spend liberal is beginning to take hold. Says Morris, "His promises to confine tax hikes to the rich are about as credible as an alcoholic's pledge only to drink at night."

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Wow, are you ty-stinking brown-noser? I bet there is absolutely no value to your life, only making others suffer. Do you like seeing people suffer? That is charactoristic of your gener. I bet people do their share of suffering around you. You must have burned quite a few bridges. Do you take dream-surpression pills so that you don't have to see your victoms appearing in your dreams. I bet some of the public that knows you would tear you to shreads as if they were Holocost survivers and you were the SS. Don't get too cockie. I try to keep my bridges, maybe you should do the same.

Name:	eastwood
To:	lllll

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http://news.myway.com/top/article/id/257892|top|04-06-2004::10:26|reuters.html

COPENHAGEN (Reuters) - The costs of the war in Iraq have outweighed the benefits of removing Saddam Hussein, former U.N. weapons inspector Hans Blix told a Danish newspaper. "It's positive that Saddam and his bloody regime is gone, but when one weighs the costs, it's clearly the negative aspects that dominate," Blix told daily Jyllands-Posten in an interview.

The Swedish diplomat has criticized the United States and Britain for going to war without U.N. approval rather than allowing his team to continue its hunt for banned weapons.

In the interview, Blix said the war had contributed to a destabilization of the Middle East and a move away from democracy in the region, adding that even though Iraqis had been spared life under a dictator, it was at too high a cost.

"Bush declared war as a part of the U.S. war on terror, but instead of limiting the effects of terror, the war has laid the foundation for even more terror," Blix said.

Blix was scorned by the United States and Britain for failing to conclude Iraq was hiding weapons of mass destruction ahead of their invasion. But a year on, no such weapons have been found. Blix, a lawyer and former Swedish foreign minister who at 75 now serves as chairman of Sweden's Weapons of Mass Destruction Commission, retired from the United Nations last June.

Name:	I AM the SS, Buttwheeze
To:	Foul Brown Paste

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Wow, are you ty-stinking brown-noser? I bet there is absolutely no value to your life, only making others suffer. Do you like seeing people suffer? That is charactoristic of your gener. I bet people do their share of suffering around you. You must have burned

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Shut your hole you miserable monicker thief. You are NOT Lord of Flies. You couldn't wipe Lord of Flies' ass on your best day, you ignorant poser. Go suck on a jug of Drano, you scum-eating pissant.

Name:	Buffy
To:	Kind Lover

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Shut your hole you miserable monicker thief. You are NOT Lord of Flies. You couldn't wipe Lord of Flies' ass on your best day, you ignorant poser. Go suck on a jug of Drano, you scum-eating pissant.

Two more U.S. soldiers died Sunday, both in northern Iraq. Since the start of the war, 622 U.S. troops have died, 428 of them in hostile fire.

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If those guys could get the jackals and the baboon to walk with them willingly, that would be cool. Extremely cool. As things are, it's a sad scene.

Name:	Rock Hyrax
To:	Buttlips
Re:	Joy in Mudville

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, 428 of them in hostile fire.

Name:	Clyde
To:	forum

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more U.S. soldiers died Sunday, both in northern Iraq. Since the start of the war, 622 U.S. troops have died, 428 of

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Remember this happy moment? We are in Iraq for a bunch of reasons, this being one of them. Don't forget!! http://www2.freepichosting.com/Images/421483023/0.jpg

Name:	Tooby
To:	Fred
Re:	Act Now!

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You may feel you've missed out on the bread machin e mania. But it's not too late to take advantage of this option for making bread baking easier than ever.

"Prices have come down and the machines ar e simple to use-all you do is add the ingredients," says Sharon Stilwell, Better Homes and Gardens Test Kitchen director.

A survey of Successful Farming readers reveals that 14% own bread machines. Welbilt is the most popular brand with 33% of our market, followed by Hitachi at 14%, and West Bend and Panasonic with 9% each among our reader panel. Welbilt's popularity among rural readers likely stems from a wide distribution area and an affordable price. Consumer Reports, for instance, has ranked other machines higher, such as the Zojirushi model. Only 3% of our reader panel owns a Zojirushi machine. Most machines are designed with a 2-4-hour yeast-bread cycle. Individual models come in a variety of shapes-som e are narrow and deep, others are shallow and wide.

Name:	Trieger Skollberger
To:	Buffy
Re:	Furious Squeaking

In response to:
Iraq Theater

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It is not the President's fault that you suck. Please adjust your browser, or failing that, jam your head into your butt and roll down the street like a hoop.

Name:	The Hillary Forum
To:	Individual the Moron

In response to:
You mean Clinton pleaded guilty to perjury?

Name:	June Ormandy, Consumer Affairs
To:	Little Squirt
Re:	Wildy popular Hitler Heater sweeps marketplace

In response to:
Consumer Reports, for instance, has ranked other machines higher, such as the Zojirushi model

Message:
Consumer Reports is for people who hate things. They get their jollies reading clinch-butted articles about the things they hate written by other androgenous clinch-butts who hate things too. Who in hell wants a bread machine now that the excellent Hitler Heater is on the market, anyway?

Name:	Keep telling yourself that
Re:	Conperson lies again!

In response to:
Ken Starr was the only federal (and maybe state also) prosecutor in history to use a grand jury to investigate deposition testimony for obstruction of justice and perjury charges in relation to consensual sex.

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Federal Worker In Hot Water Over Sex
By Gary Gerard, Times-Union Managing Editor
You probably never heard of Barbara Battalino.

You may remember Burkett. The Warsaw resident ran for Congress against Tim Roemer a couple times. He lost.

Of all the politicians or would-be politicians I have known, Burkett has about the best grasp of the issues.

You may not agree with what Burkett says, but he can back it up. If you get into a political argument with Burkett, you will likely lose.

So anyway, Burkett brings me this little ditty about this Battalino woman and I think it is worth sharing with our readers. So I surfed up an article on the Internet written by Nicole LeFavour for the Boise Weekly.

She had a patient whose name was Ed Arthur. Arthur is a Vietnam veteran. Over his long military and law enforcement career he earned two Purple Hearts, a Bronze Star, five Air Medals and many other awards.

In 1991, Arthur was living in Emmett, a town near Boise, doing undercover work for the local cops. He was also organizing the first Idaho chapter of the Military Order of the Purple Heart.

He visited the Boise V.A. weekly for treatment of injuries he received in combat. He also received counseling for the lingering emotional effects of combat.

He was treated by a psychologist, Hal Patterson, and a psychiatrist, Barbara Battalino.

Arthur says that on June 27, 1991, about a month after he started seeing Battalino, she revealed to him in her office that she had �feelings� for him and performed oral sex on him.

Three months after the alleged incident, Arthur told Patterson about it. He also said that he was having an ongoing sexual relationship with Battalino.

Patterson�s written report on that exchange, gleaned from court records, states, �One of my patients informed me during a session that he was involved in an intimate relationship with Barbara Battalino. The veteran said he was becoming uncomfortable in the relationship, but felt obliged to continue, due to the fact that she had helped him with some financial and family problems.�

Patterson told his superiors about Battalino�s relationship with a patient, but they didn�t formally report her to the Board of Psychiatry or fire her. Instead, Battalino resigned voluntarily in October 1991 and got to keep $16,000 in remaining salary.

Worse, Arthur claims the remaining people treating him at the V.A. broke his confidence, betrayed and abandoned him without proper referral to other sources of care.

In February 1992, Arthur sued Battalino and the V.A. alleging sexual abuse and medical malpractice.

In sworn testimony in federal court, Battalino denied that the incident in her office ever took place, but she did admit to having sexual relations with Arthur after she stopped being his doctor. She also admitted giving Arthur thousands of dollars in cash and gifts.

Her testimony is contradicted by 25 hours of phone conversations that Arthur recorded near the end of their relationship.

On one of the tapes, Battalino confronts Arthur after he tells her he confided in Patterson about the sex act in Battalino�s office.

This would have grave consequences for Battalino professionally because it established the fact that she had sex with him while he was in her care. It also opened up the V.A. to liability in the case.

On the tape, Battalino responds to Arthur: �What? ... Oh, Ed! ... No, the thing was that we were supposed to not have had sex until after ... I can�t believe you would divulge that.�

Later in the conversation, Arthur says he�s not sure he told Patterson. Battalino angrily tells him if he does she�ll deny it.

Battalino�s testimony in the civil case became the subject of FBI and grand jury investigations conducted by the Justice Department.

On April 10, 1998, U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno and the Justice Department filed an official �information� in federal district court in which Reno alleged that Battalino �did corruptly endeavor to influence, obstruct and impeded the due administration of justice in connection with a pending proceeding before a court of the United States.�

Reno concluded that Battalino�s denial under oath �was false and misleading in that the defendant in fact had performed oral sex on Arthur in her Boise office on June 27, 1991.�

On April 14, 1998, the Justice Department issued a press release stating that Battalino pleaded guilty to one count of obstruction of justice and would be sentenced July 20, 1998. The violation is a felony under title 18, section 1503 of the U.S. code, punishable by 10 to 16 months in prison.

And all this because somebody had consensual sex in their office and lied about it under oath.

Name:

Individual

In response to:
In sworn testimony in federal court, Battalino denied that the incident in her office ever took place, but she did admit to having sexual relations with Arthur after she stopped being his doctor.

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I've heard the Battalino story. Not the same. With Clinton, a grand jury was used to investigate depositions and affadavits.

By the way, what other case besides Battalino have some or most (but not all) of the same characteristics as the Clinton case? This seems to be the only one that right wing extremists cite. I ask this question because even if Battalino were the same as Clinton, this would be only one case. Is that all there is?

Name:

Individual

In response to:
Says Morris, "His promises to confine tax hikes to the rich are about as credible as an alcoholic's pledge only to drink at night."

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Kerry must present his tax plan in detail and contrast it with Bush's. And make sure the people understand the huge difference involved.

Name:

Forun Fan

In response to:
Kerry must present his tax plan in detail and contrast it with Bush's. And make sure the people understand the huge difference involved.

Name:	Prox
To:	Individual
Re:	Lying the donkey to death

In response to:
I've heard the Battalino story. Not the same. With Clinton, a grand jury was used to investigate depositions and affadavits.

Message:
Exactly the same. And for your information, you lying sack of shit, investigating depositions and affadavits and other evidence is precisely the function for which grand juries are empaneled.

Name:	The Hillary Forum
To:	Individual the Moron

In response to:
You mean the crime that Clinton pled guilty to was perjury?

Name:	The Hillary Forum
To:	Individual the Moron

In response to:
I've heard the Battalino story. Not the same. With Clinton, a grand jury was used to investigate depositions and affadavits.

Name:	Darcy & Etta Marie
To:	Individual, the lowest of partisan hacks
Re:	Finishing off the donkey

In response to:
You mean the crime that Clinton pled guilty to was perjury?

Message:
You filthy partisan political hack scum! CLINTON PLED GUILTY TO A LESSER CHARGE TO AVOID CERTAIN PROSECUTION AND CONVICTION ON THE PERJURY CHARGE. HE IS A LYING STINKING WEASLE JUST AS YOU ARE. HE IS A GODDAMNED PERJURER. I KNOW IT, YOU KNOW IT, AND BILL CLINTON DAMNED SURE KNOWS IT.

Name:	Stalin was god
To:	Go Kerry

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I'm a silly little communist agent...........

Name:	Love Communism
To:	Go Kerry

Message:
I'm a silly little Socialist troll!

Name:	Sally Boy
To:	Go Kerry

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I play with boy dolls and cruz elementry schools for fun.......... Did I mention that I dress up like Queen Ann?

Name:

Remember Democrats Lie

In response to:
I've heard the Battalino story. Not the same. With Clinton, a grand jury was used to investigate depositions and affadavits.

Message:
It's exactly the same Spin. And the Clinton justice department did it. So take your partisan, lying ass to the toilet and barf the truth if you have to.

Name:	Paying Bills Run Up By s
To:	The Beguiled
Re:	To hell with the sky. THERE IS NO LIMIT!

In response to:
First he has to "invent" his tax plan. All Kerry offers in hot air. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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For details of the Kerry-Kohn "tax plan", examine John Kohn Kerry's LONG voting record in Congress. Read his speeches. Consider who in the Congress he has worked with and why, and to what purpose.

John K. Kerry's plans and prior actions concerning taxation are very consistent and very clear. Kerry's plan is the same as it has always been: RAISE ANY AND ALL TAXES AT EVERY OPPORTUNITY. RAISE THEM AS HIGH AS YOU THINK YOU CAN GET AWAY WITH, THEN EAGERLY AWAIT THE NEXT OPPORTUNITY TO RAISE THEM STILL HIGHER. IF YOU CAN CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RAISE TAXES, BY ALL MEANS DO SO!

Name:

Sally boy

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CAn anyone help me to better worship satan? and is there any clubs or groups i can join? any help would be great

Name:	Sally Boy
Re:	Satan

Message:
I just wanted everyone to know that I am very serious about this. Please dont take this as a joke or someone trying to play games with all of you. I have great recpect for all of you. Just thought I should let you all know this.

Name:	Sally Boy
To:	LOF

Message:
If you LOF practice deep ritual magic and love yourself first and be open to satan, then allow him to enter totally in your mind body and soul, you are already there. So all you rightwing missionaries in here who have nothing better to do than lecture us, pleas stop. Stop wasting your time and ours praying for our sold soles, we don�t want to be saved.

Name:	Paying Bills Run Up By s
To:	Etc.
Re:	Kerry Tax Grabbing

In response to:
Kerry is a far-Left Yankee-Liberal Big Tax jerkoff.

Message:
Kerry Sucks. He is about the sorriest shit-rag the Democrats could have contrived to stick under the noses of the American people. I swear, I think Kerry is more revolting than Henry Waxman!

Name:

An Informed Party

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If you want to talk to the horses mouth about the Battalino case, call 740-653-5455

Name:	Sally Boy
To:	LOF
Re:	Blood of Tyrants New Wave of Swedish

In response to:
I have always wanted to find a way to support the DNC underground

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I'm burnt out working the 6 days a week personally and want to focus more time towards playing drums, friends, Drugs, perv shows, etc... Have some free time once again!!!! Once I get settled...

Name:	Djinn Phizz
To:	SalliBoi
Re:	The Devil His Elf

In response to:
CAn anyone help me to better worship satan? and is there any clubs or groups i can join? any help would be great

Message:
Shove your head up his rear until he coughs brimstone. Then you'll both be happy. (Be careful of that tail of his, it carries a venomous sting that will set you to singing hymns for a week should you run afoul of it)

Name:	Sally Boy
To:	LOF
Re:	Satan

Message:
Why worship him? He created you, yes. I understand that much. Then you can pay him some tribute, like an annual "God Day" or something. But worship?

Name:	Sally Boy
To:	LOF

Message:
You know what? I've never hurt anyone bad, I'm a socialist, I love boys. I love helping boys. I work in a court house, ok? And I like it! I'm a positive kinda guy, but this god worship stuff sure gets to me. I mean, what if I am a good person and after I die, I find out that, "whoops...seems god does exist!"...what then? Will he say, "well, LOF, you were a good guy, I guess I can understand that you didn't believe in me...you were raised in a society that has proven many things of the past to be untrue, like the first amendment, and the Loch Ness Monster, I guess you can come to live in your own personal paradise.

Why

Name:	Nguyen brother
Re:	Clinton or some other Democrat

Message:
Lam Nguyen's job is to sit for hours in a chilly, quiet room devoid of any color but gray and look at pornography. This job, which Nguyen does earnestly from 9 to 5, surrounded by a half-dozen other "computer forensic specialists" like him, has become the focal point of the Justice Department's operation to rid the world of porn.

Name:	hkjykuh
To:	kjk,./

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Two more U.S. soldiers died Sunday, both in northern Iraq. Since the start of the war, 622 U.S. troops have died, 428 of them in hostile fire.

Name:	wandering wonderer
To:	forum and the listening world
Re:	What would I ask Rice?

In response to:
MSN says,"What would You ask Rice?

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I wouldn't ask Conzzzondiza Rice anything but Gary Hart's Rice I'd ask:

3. Was the boat"Monkey Business" later sold for a rediculous sum of money due to its fame?

10. Did you think Bill Clinton should have been impeached and removed from office for besmerking the Presidency and lying to the world?

Name:	Pan Eater
To:	Tooby
Re:	Who eats white bread that can afford better?

In response to:
Personally that 78 cent wheat French style at Walmart is GREAT!

Made 2 Appean Way box kit pizzas in 1960s. Nearly starved waiting. Devored in minutes! Was good but so long in prep so quickly inhaled. Barb must like hosses. Good moving horse.

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As for Iraq-give Sunni Triangle to Shiites, Shiite place to Sunnis, Kurds keep their own . We keep the oil infested land behinnd a thirty foot wall across Iraq or barbed wire. Then we get the heck outa Dodge and let the ***Expletive delited***fight each other to the death!

Name:

Sully

Message:
I woke up Monday morning and failed to realize that the clocks moved forward a hour. I ended up missing my ride with my boss. So I came out a hundred dollars short today and didn't help my work situation out. I explained what happened to my boss's wife at the Monday church feeding. Now I have to wait for an email for when I will be used again. Man, I hope I didn't blow the job.

Name:	Puffy Fly
To:	Zippy

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Name:	LMFAO
Re:	Lookie Here.....................................................................

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We at the StopHillaryPAC have had nothing whatsoever to do with Hillary.org. In fact, until their press release 3 days ago we had never even heard of that pro-Hillary organization", said Former Congressman John LeBoutillier, the Chairman of StopHillaryPAC.com.

Last week Esme Taylor of the Hillary Clinton Forum and www.Hillary.org charged that we at StopHillaryPAC "posted a [disruptive] mini-movie on her forum." This is simply not true. While we are dedicated to stopping Hillary Clinton from reaching the White House as either President or Vice President, we condemn any efforts to interfere in any organization's site.

We did not orchestrate, direct or in any other way have anything whatsoever to do with this disruptive mini-movie. We do not know who - if anyone - posted it. All groups - even extremely leftist ones like Hillary.org - have the right to air their views without disturbances and harassment.

In fact, we wonder if Hillary.org didn't create this fracas in the first place just to garner some much-needed free publicity for their almost-anonymous organization.

StopHillaryPAC believes the best way to stop Hillary Clinton's unquenchable thirst for power is by using the truth in exposing her radical left-wing record - from her days at Yale Law School all the way to the US Senate. Facts - not mini-movies - are our tools.

Name:	Tommy Chong
To:	Sully

In response to:
woke up Monday morning and failed to realize that the clocks moved forward a hour

Name:	Thood Bubnknockley III
To:	Shop Hillary .Dot Pac
Re:	Holiday Beer

In response to:
Rhinestones in Dolly Parton's Nose, belles on her toes, and a ring on every finger of her hand.

Message:
The bidnix about the cow and the lantern is hogwash. That's some old wife's tail. Hillary is perfect: serene, majestic, superior, in short, perfect. Also continent. There... you see? The child has put jelly on her taco. I must insist that you summon your manager. Now. My reputation and that of my family will not be compromised by your incompetence, I assure you of that. It will avail you nothing to adjust your browser, I demand the manager of this establishment. I am not French, so do not flash your googie eyes at me, Sir, and stop that fidgeting at once!

Name:

Editor

In response to:
We did not orchestrate, direct or in any other way have anything whatsoever to do with this disruptive mini-movie. We do not know who - if anyone - posted it. All groups - even extremely leftist ones like Hillary.org - have the right to air their views without disturbances and harassment.

Message:
I know many forum fans saw the mini-movie with loud music and gunshots and Hillary murdering Vince . .com proudly advertised itself in large red 7 point lettering at the end of the movie.

Name:	Ali Ahmed Ahkbar
To:	Walley Wahhabi
Re:	Infidel partisanship has Allah's blessing

In response to:
American conservatives are often our worst enemies. God forbid they learn from their mistakes...

Message:
"Moveon.org" is a legacy from the broohaha Republicans made about Clinton's fellatio.

As long as they never come to terms with these forces they unleashed, there is still hope that the Dhimmicrats will lead us to victory. ...And we'll be back to reclaim the caliphate!

Name:

we saw it

Message:
STOP-HILLARY-PAC.COM were sooooo proud of their masterpiece that they advertised themselves in red 7 point type on their mini-movie. HAHAHAHAH HA HA HA HA - the LIARS are trying to deny their work - ha ha ha ha ha

Name:

Warning to Stophillary.PAC.com

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Don't mess with the Editor of this forum, Stophillary.PAC.com. You guys are pikers compared to her. Johnny-come-lately's like your silly organization will get their asses whipped every time. Be warned!

Hello Bill,

Thank you for taking the trouble to write to me.

Yes, I also constantly hear from people, and read in the press how unsuitable Hillary would be for a Vice President because she is so "polarizing.� If Hillary is so polarizing why has she been leading every other Democrat in the polls for the last few years or so by a very large margin? She usually ot 46% while the other Democratic candidates couldn�t even break double digits!

Obviously Hillary is not polarizing the left. She's polarizing on the right, but they are not going to vote for her anyway.

Hillary is a strategic advantage for Kerry in many ways. At this present time the right is pounding the heck out of Kerry. They are scaring voters by casting him as weak on terrorism. Kerry has not come up with a viable plan to fight terrorism.
And the right has done a great job in portraying Kerry as a ditherer who flip-flops.

Bush has $200 million in is war chest to fight Kerry, not counting what the Republican Party has, which is probably even more. The media and the public traditionally ignore Vice Presidents. If Kerry picks somebody safe he or she will be ignored. With the exception of McCain, all the rest will be ignored.

Trust me on this one Bill, the right-wingers will bomb Kerry every day with vicious ads guaranteed to crush him. Kerry cannot fight fire with fire for two reasons: he doesn�t have the funding, and secondly it will only make him look like a Bush-attacker, not a president.

To stop the Republicans from tearing Kerry to shreds we must force them to fight on two fronts in order to split their vicious campaign attacks. Enter Hillary Rodham Clinton as Vice President. The Republicans will immediately be forced to divide their army and their bullets.

This is exactly what we want because they are wasting their bullets and campaign warriors on Hillary. There is nothing they can do or say that hasn't already been done. Hillary has grown a teflon exterior and their bullets will just bounce off her. The more the right hit Hillary is the more she rises. History has already proved that conclusively..

We want Hillary to polarize the voters into nice well-behaved Democrats and raging mad dog Republicans that froth at the mouth every time the hear or see Hillary. The pundits are concerned that Hillary will overshadow Kerry. That�s exactly what we want her to do. Hillary will energize Kerry's campaign and draw most of fire away from Kerry and also most of the funds in the right-wing war chest too.

The right will squander their funds and their energy trying to get Hillary. You know they will. The Republicans squandered $70 million dollars of our tax dollars trying to get Hillary and Bill, and we can depend on them to squander, all their own funds this time, in a futile attempt to get her again. They can�t help themselves. They are obsessed with getting Hillary.

None of the other potential Vice Presidential can divide and conquer like Hillary can. Hillary can be everywhere-all-the-time driving the Republicans into a frenzy. The right will behave toward her like they did during the Clinton years. They will smear her, spread lies about her and become raging lunatics at the very sight of her. This
is exactly what we want. We want Hillary to bring out the worst on the right and make them look like the ugliest hate-mongers ever.

Hillary will enrage the right even more by presenting one new idea after the other. Especially, she will present all kinds of approaches to the war on terrorism and the economy. This is the bait she will put out there. The right will spend all their
time attacking her new ideas. They will ridicule her, scoff at her and twist everything she says and forget about Kerry. This is exactly what we want.

It's still early in the election year and a lot can happen, especially when Bush pulls the troops out of Iraq. Iraq may become such a total mess that the people will kick Bush out for the 600 dead soldiers and billions wasted for no visible gain. I hope
this is not the case, but I don't like the idea of pulling out in June. It's too soon.

Thanks for writing. I welcome your participation on the forum.
Esme Taylor
Executive Director
Hillary Rodham Clinton for Vice President.

Name:	Tedward M Kennedie, Please
To:	Liars from Texass

Message:
John Forbes Kerry is currently running for president as a populist, though his mother was a Forbes - from one of Massachusetts oldest WASP families. His first wife came from a Philadelphia aristocrat family worth $300 million. His second wife is a pickle-and-ketchup heiress (Heinz) and has an estimated fortune of over $600 million.

He sails Nantucket Sound in "the Scaramouche," a 42-foot Hinckley powerboat. Martha Stewart has a similar boat; the no-frills model reportedly starts at $695,000. Sen. Kerry bought his new...in cash.

In 1993, living on a senator's salary of about $100,000, he managed to give a total of $135 to charity. Yet that same year, he was somehow able to scrape together enough for a brand-new, imported Italian motorcycle: a Ducati Paso 907 IE.

While between heiresses in 1993, his friends allowed him into a real-estate deal in which he flipped a condo for quick resale, netting a $21,000 profit on a cash investment of exactly nothing. "For months he rode around in a new car supplied by a shady local Buick dealer. When the dealer's ties to a congressman who was later indicted for racketeering were exposed, Kerry quickly explained that the non-payment was a mere oversight, and wrote out a check." (source: the New York Post).

Everyone knows Massachusetts is one of the nation's most-Irish states, but John Kerry is not Irish. Yet, while campaigning in 1984, he said "As some of you may know, I am part-English and part-Irish. And when my Kerry ancestors first came over to Massachusetts from the old country to find work in the New World, it was my English ancestors who refused to hire them." Again on March 18, 1986 he said on the Senate floor, "For those of us who are fortunate to share an Irish ancestry, we take great pride in the contributions that Irish-Americans..." Kerry now claims he has always tried to correct anyone who falsely assumes he is Irish. (source: the Boston Globe)

John Kerry served in Vietnam for a total of 4 months. He received 3 Purple Hearts, a Bronze Star and a Silver Star. Upon his return, he quit the Navy early and became involved with numerous anti-war groups, most notably the Vietnam Veterans Against the War (financed by Jane Fonda). These groups were His anti-war activities are widely documented, especially throwing his medals back during an emotional protest at the steps of the Capitol on April 23, 1971. Years later, his medals turned up on the wall of his Capitol Hill office. When a reporter noticed them, Kerry admitted the medals he threw that day were not his own.

In 1993, he voted twice for President Clinton's budget plan, which raised taxes by $240 billion.

In 1996, after he voted to raise gasoline taxes, Kerry told the Boston Globe he was "very proud" of the vote.

Throughout his congressional career, Kerry called for the cancellation of 27 individual weapons systems, including: the B-1 bomber and the B-2 stealth bomber; the AH-64 Apache helicopter; the MX missile; the Pershing II missile; the Patriot air-defense missile; the Sparrow air-to-air missile; the F-15, F-14 and AV-8 Harrier jets; the Trident class of nuclear missile submarines; and the Aegis air-defense cruiser. (source: the Boston Globe)

Additionally, he has advocated massive reductions of 18 other individual weapons systems, including the M1A1 Abrams tank; the Bradley fighting vehicle; the F-16 and the Tomahawk cruise missile; all critical to U.S. military success in Afghanistan and Iraq. His recommendations totaled a $54 billion cut in defense spending from Reagan's proposed defense budget for the fiscal year 1985.

In 1991, he voted to cut the Defense Department by $3 billion and voted in 1992 to cut an additional $6 billion.

In 1993, Kerry introduced a plan to the Senate to cut many defense programs which included cutting the number of Navy submarines and their crews, reducing the number of light infantry units in the Army down to one, reducing tactical fighter wings in the Air Force, terminating the Navy's coastal mine-hunting ship program, and forcing the retirement of no less than 60,000 members of the Armed Forces in one year.

In 1993, Kerry voted against increased defense spending to fund a military pay raise and he voted to kill an increase in military pay over five years. In all, he has voted against military pay raises 11 times.

In 1995, he voted to freeze defense spending for 7 years, slashing over $34 billion for defense.

In 1996 and 1998, he voted against establishing a national missile defense system.

In 1995, he voted to cut $80 million from the FBI's budget and he introduced a bill that would have reduced intelligence funding $300 million over the next five years and by $1.5 billion by the year 2000. The bill was similar to one Kerry proposed in 1994. The 1994 bill would have cut $1 billion from the budgets of the National Foreign Intelligence Program and from the Tactical Intelligence Program, the program that coordinates counter-terrorism activities. Yet, after September 11, Kerry complained about the lack of funds the intelligence establishment received. "And the tragedy is," Kerry told Bob Schieffer on CBS's Face the Nation in September 2001, "at the moment, the single most important weapon for the United States of America is intelligence. It's the single most important weapon in this particular war."

Even after the first World Trade Center bombing, Senator Kerry voted to cut intelligence spending by $1.5 billion for the five years prior to 2001. This bill was "so reckless" that had no co-sponsors willing to endorse his plans. (source: CNN.online)

In April, 2003, with American soldiers fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq, Kerry said "What we need now is not just a regime change in Saddam Hussein and Iraq, but we need a regime change in the United States."

Kerry's votes on Iraq over the last ten years have been wildly inconsistent: He voted against the Gulf War in 1991, saying on the floor of the Senate "Is the liberation of Kuwait so imperative?" When a constituent wrote in support of using force against Iraq, the response from Kerry expressed firm opposition to the war resolution and said that economic sanctions should have been given "more time to work." Nine days later, there came a second letter, this one saying Kerry "strongly and unequivocally supported President Bush's response." When The Boston Globe published the letters side by side, Kerry blamed the glaring contradiction on a computer glitch, and said the constituent should have received yet a third letter, one opposing the war but supporting the troops.

In 1998, Kerry voiced support for Operation Desert Fox, Clinton's cruise missile attacks on Baghdad.

He voted for granting President Bush war powers in 2002, yet as early as March 17, 2003 said "Mr. President, we think this war is a mistake. This is the wrong war at the wrong time." He changed his mind again on April 1, 2003 said "Saddam Hussein has chosen to make military force the ultimate weapons inspections enforcement mechanism. If so, the only exit strategy is victory. This is our common mission and the world's cause. We're in this together. We want to complete the mission while safeguarding our troops, avoiding innocent civilian casualties, disarming Saddam Hussein and engaging the community of nations to rebuild Iraq." He then voted against the $87 billion appropriation for the American troops serving in the war and the reconstruction of Iraq and Afghanistan. Kerry now claims he only voted for the "threat" of using force to remove Saddam Hussein from power, not the actual use of force.

And on Feb. 3, 2004, in a televised debate in South Carolina, Kerry referred to the threat of terrorism as "exaggerated" and "misleading."

Name:	Sure Enough
Re:	RadicLibs Love Hillary. She is one of them. She has been for decades.

In response to:
Obviously Hillary is not polarizing the left.

Name:	Rachel Carson's Oil-fired Heating Plant
To:	O! Goroo!
Re:	Who gives a damn anyway?

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Now they deny that they did it?

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Some idiot like Scotty probably did it, or a fanatical, psychotic HATER like Lord of Flies.

Name:	Hasta la vista, Mustafa
Re:	New Book Calls Europe 'Province of Islam'

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This woman kicks ass...she rocks. Calls 'em like she sees 'em.

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By ALESSANDRA RIZZO, Associated Press Writer ROME - A new book by controversial journalist Oriana Fallaci that hit bookstores here Monday accuses Europe of having sold its soul to what she describes as an Islamic invasion. Entitled "The Strength of Reason," ("La Forza della Ragione" in Italian), the book also accuses the Roman Catholic Church of being too weak before the Muslim world. "Europe becomes more and more a province of Islam, a colony of Islam. And Italy is an outpost of that province, a stronghold of that colony," the book says. "In each of our cities lies a second city: a Muslim city, a city run by the Quran. A stage in the Islamic expansionism." The book comes more than two years after the Italian writer's best-selling essay "The Rage and The Pride" drew accusations Fallaci was inciting hatred against Muslims. A group in France unsuccessfully sought to stop distribution of the book, while two other associations have requested that it carry a warning. Fallaci, a former war correspondent who has lived in New York for the past decade, has become known for uncompromising interviews with such world leaders as former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat (news - web sites). Describing Europe as "Eurabia" � a mix of Europe and Arabia � the Italian writer said the continent "has sold itself and sells itself to the enemy like a prostitute." Written in the blunt style that is Fallaci's trademark, the 278-page book claims the Catholic Church keeps silent even when its symbols are offended by Muslims and before such practices as polygamy and torture. The current invasion, Fallaci writes, is not carried out only by the "terrorists who blow up themselves along with skyscrapers or buses" but also by "the immigrants who settle in our home, and who, with no respect for our laws, impose their ideas, their customs, their God." The book is dedicated to the victims of the March 11 terror attacks in Madrid.

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THE SUCCESS OF A BURGER JOINT in IRAQ, is the same as the SUCCESS OF THE WAR IN IRAQ.

Imagine you had set up a new business in Iraq, or anywhere else on earth, --- just for example:

In the first 3 weeks, after opening your doors, you had the cash register looted 18 times, the manager & the crew were threatened & shot at 5 times, & all the customers were frightened away.

In the next 3 weeks, the manager & crew were killed, and had to be replaced at least 3 times.

In the next 3 weeks, the burger, ketchup & pickle trucks that delivered supplies were routinely blown up.

And finally they blew up the Burger King building, where your last crew had just been trained for duty.

And once in a while you could coax an occasional brave or starving Iraqui to come to your franchise for a quick dinner, before they all were blown to bits.

BUT, in the long run, --- is it really worth all the expense and the risk? Is it? Worth all the money & the wasted lives?

To prove what? That you could forcibly keep a certain concept like the rights of Iraquis to consume burgers, in a perpetual state? Or maybe you could leave, & let the Iraqi people decide what food markets they wished to consume? And decide who should be running the show, in THEIR country? We would sure hate it, if some foreign nation came HERE, & tried to force us all to eat curry or Thai food, or yak meat, or some other foreign delicacy that made us all regurgitate.

Especially if the foreign food peddler, had arrived in a blaze of bullets & bombs, blew the hell out of our city, & destroyed our best bldgs. And then invaded our land, & tried to Rule our nation, while occupying it with troops.

We would ALL do our very best to get rid of any invaders in our OWN land, so why impose ourselves on Iraq? It is not in the interest of America to impose our leadership or our way of govt on any other nation. It has always been our principle, to lead by EXAMPLE, by displaying to the world the fact that democracy makes people happy, prosperous, & Free.

Then ALL other nations would want to join us and emulate us -- in a democratic world.

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DOES BUSH EVER TELL LIES?

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Telltale sign: His lips are moving.

However, this signal is better than that of his father, who had a habit of sticking out his tongue every time HE told a lie. One time I counted Bush SR sticking out his tongue 37 times in one speech.

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It all began with "W" when he took office, after his total admin lied about the number of votes, since they had gone to great lengths to forbid the "ballot count".

Then the Bush admin lied about environmental impact on wild species in the Alaskan wilderness, so it would look beneficial for Eagles, deer & seals to eat OIL slicks.

Then, during 9/11, the Bush admin lied about the toxic levels of asbestos & debris & jet fuel in the air around the WTC, so the firefighters & other workers did not know how dangerous it was for them to breathe the air.

Then Bush aides were sent to all the National Guard bases, to find and destroy any documents that could be used as evidence that George was AWOL for one year.

Then the Bush groupies lied about the danger posed by Saddam Hussein & his non-existent nuclear & biological weapons of mass destruction. Thus leading the USA into a very dangerous & extremely costly (unnecessary) WAR.

The Bush admin also told the American people that we would be greeted as "liberators" and our soldiers would be given flowers & music, by the grateful Iraquis. WRONG. The only music & flowers our boys got was at their funerals.

Now we are getting strange (coincidental) reports of a sudden rise in employment from "invisible" jobs, & a sudden rising Economy, from unknown means. Could this (OH NO) be some more LIES (manipulated statistics) coming at a time to bolster the Prez's sagging Poll numbers? His admin has done statistical twisting before, (see EPA & environment above). Also, Daddy Bush said during the Anita Hill & Clarence Thomas scandal, "Statistics can be made to say anything you want them to say". (unquote). Speaking from experience?

All this makes me wonder, why George SR always had to stick his tongue out so often during a speech, & why Geo JR has perpetually flipping eyebrows during his speeches.??

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WHY WE MUST LEAVE IRAQ

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We are an aggressor in an innocent sovereign country, which is a violation of all treaties. We have committed several "war crimes" in that nation, bombing their power & water supplies. Killing civilians who are simply defending their own land, & their own people against an invading Army. US.

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(a) THEY NEVER DID ATTACK US. (b) THEY NEVER HAD WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION since 1992. (c) THEY HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH 9/11. (d) They did not give orders to Al Quaeda. (e) They had been our allies for nearly 20 yrs, only using the weapons that OUR CIA & Rumsfeld (under Reagan) gave them. (f) EVEN THE FIRST GULF WAR (under BUSH SR) was a scam & a sham, since Bush Daddy's admin told Hussein that the USA did not care if he invaded Kuwait, which had been part of Iraq in its past history. THEN BUSH DADDY did a FLIP FLOP & said we DID care about Kuwait, so we better bomb Iraq.

BUT EVEN WORSE THAN ALL THAT, (bombing an innocent nation that had no weapons, & did not threaten or attack us), --- WE ARE ENCROACHING ON THE MOST HOLY LAND IN THE WORLD. IRAQ is the ancient GARDEN OF EDEN.

The Bible tells exactly where the Garden of Eden was located, between the Tigris & Euphrates rivers. The exact place described in the Bible, & confirmed by historians, is IRAQ. (once called Babylonia). Why is that important?

In the Jewish Torah, & Christian Bible, the first 5 books are the same. IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN, God created Adam & Eve, he gave them a garden full of flowering plants and trees, like a Paradise. He walked there & talked to them, & gave them just ONE LAW. You shall not eat of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good & Evil. For if you do so, you will surely die. But he gave them the Tree of Life, & all the other food they could eat. It was idyllic there, as you can see the gorgeous palm trees & tropical plants of IRAQ. But of course, the snake (or maybe the worm in the apple) caused Eve to take a bite. Being a female, she wondered why the worm could eat the apple & not die, so why would she?

This cleverness, in discovery that the worm could eat of the apple & not die, was the Knowledge of Good & Evil. The beginning of Reason. So Adam & Eve were banned from the Garden, & the rest is History. However, also in Iraq, was the famous TOWER of BABEL. Where the workers toiled to create a bldg that would reach to the sky, & perhaps even to Heaven. But God confounded them & made them speak all different languages, (babble) & so they could not finish the job.

Also in Iraq is the palace of King Nebudchanezzer (sp?) who was famous in the Bible, and also, near Baghdad was the Hanging Gardens of Babylon, (one of the 7 ancient Wonders of the World). All this priceless History, & artifacts that go back to the Beginning of Mankind on this Earth, --- WE ARE BOMBING & destroying with each passing day, Not to even mention the artifacts in the Museum of Baghdad that we had desecrated, by not protecting it from Looters.

It is not just the lying or unnecessary bombing of Iraq, & killing off thousands of innocent civilians, who were doing nothing against America, -- but we are doing something HORRIBLE to a piece of HOLY LAND. It is most sacreligious to even be over there, polluting the ground with weapons. GOD WILL NOT EVER FORGIVE THIS. He will be most angry, Make no mistake. This WAR IS NOT A MISTAKE, it is a SIN AGAINST GOD & HUMANITY. It is an abomination.

It is not enough we have incurred the Wrath of most of the Arab (Muslim) world against us, alienated most of our Allies, cost over 600 American lives, & crippled & maimed thousands more. It is not enough that the Expense of this useless war will Bankrupt our Economy. NO. We will now incur the WRATH of ALMIGHTY GOD, for what we have done.

When God was angry at the Pharoah in Egypt for keeping the Jews as slaves, do you remember what he did? He sent a message saying "Let My People Go", & then he sent floods, plagues, pestilence, locusts, famine, earthquakes, & many other evil things upon the land, until the Pharoah gave up.

Notice any strange weather lately? Any earthquakes, or floods, wildfires, locusts, killer bees, dying ins, bad tornadoes or hurricanes? Strange plane crashes, or train derailments, or oil well blow-ups? Well, it is most likely just the beginning. GOD wants us to LET IRAQ GO. It is the least we could do, after all our harmful intrusion.

With the Israel/ Palestinian conflict going on nearby, I wouldn't exactly want to get GOD too mad at us. The PRICE It Might Cost Us, -- COULD BE ARMAGEDDON.

Name:	HILLARY SUPPORTER
To:	THE PEOPLE AT "STOP HILLARY PAC"

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Why don't you idiots give up!! Believe me, you people aren't going to get anywhere!! We can destroy the "Stop-Hillary Pac" if we want.

Name:	HILLARY SUPPORTER
To:	FORUM
Re:	Friends of Hillary

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Name:	Frenchie
To:	rhubarb
Re:	I like horses too, cow is not safe.

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Why we must leave Iraq when we are damned good and ready to leave.

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The "Gray Area" Administration wouldn't furnish offensive armour to Mogladishu because it looked too much like the Russians crushing Hungary so the enemy slaughtered US troops and draged them through the streets in triumph. At that time, we placed our tails between our legs as a nation and left Samalia. Seeing that the mouse had roared and the lion had fled, the mice decided to make worldwide mischief. The Gray Area administration decided that lawyers and international law would settle terrorism cases since that meant money for lawyers. People got blown up but that would be settled in court or by saber rattling (Mess with us and we'll blow up tents in obscure places!)

The "Real Deal" Administration got elected (some say by the grace of G_d) and after the mice destroyed two large buildings and killed 3000 people we weren't allowed to see, serious consequences led to lots of mouse hole destruction. Mouse infestation after mouse infestation faced mouse traps and extermination. Soon King Rat was captured in his rathole. Now he has a French mouse lawyer and will soon be free to lead the rathole gang in filthy night shirts again. Encouraged by King Rat's survival, the mice have regrouped in the various ratlands. King Rat had lost two offspring and should have been a suicide to join his kin across the River Styx, but lawyers have saved him for later rat revival missions and lots of money.

Name:	The
To:	Straight outta Compton

Name:	Gaia
Re:	Shame! Shame!

Fly the Partisan Skies None of us should be forced to fly with the lying, cheating, vicious dirtballs who make up the other side.

Two more U.S. soldiers died Sunday, both in northern Iraq. Since the start of the war, 622 U.S. troops have died, 428 of them in hostile fire.

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Fly the Partisan Skies
None of us should be forced to fly with the lying, cheating,
vicious dirtballs who make up the other side.